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Hi,

I have a board which I need to secure to a wall which needs to be firm when fixed but easily removable, The fixings can't be seen from the front. Ideally the board would be removed at the same height has hung (i.e. doesn't need to be lifted) although a small lift could be possible (approx 15mm).

In a perfect scenario it would be some sort of click latch where you click it into place and then push in to click it out again but the only ones I have seen expect the base piece to be at 90 degrees to the board which wouldnt work on a wall.

Anyone have any ideas?

thanks

Lee.

[Capitol]

wrote:
Hi,

I have a board which I need to secure to a wall which needs to be firm when fixed but easily removable, The fixings can't be seen from the front. Ideally the board would be removed at the same height has hung (i.e. doesn't need to be lifted) although a small lift could be possible (approx 15mm).

In a perfect scenario it would be some sort of click latch where you click it into place and then push in to click it out again but the only ones I have seen expect the base piece to be at 90 degrees to the board which wouldnt work on a wall.

Anyone have any ideas?

thanks

Lee.


15mm is adequate for lift off plates available fron Toolstation.

[David Lang]

On 05/04/2016 16:55, wrote:
Hi,

I have a board which I need to secure to a wall which needs to be firm when fixed but easily removable, The fixings can't be seen from the front. Ideally the board would be removed at the same height has hung (i.e. doesn't need to be lifted) although a small lift could be possible (approx 15mm).

In a perfect scenario it would be some sort of click latch where you click it into place and then push in to click it out again but the only ones I have seen expect the base piece to be at 90 degrees to the board which wouldnt work on a wall.

Anyone have any ideas?

thanks

Lee.


A French cleat is the obvious answer, but the lift would prolly be too much.

These any good?

http://www.ironmongerydirect.co.uk/p...s_black/440998

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[Capitol]

Capitol wrote:
wrote:
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Iron...Fitting/p60564



15mm is adequate for lift off plates available fron Toolstation.

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On Tuesday, April 5, 2016 at 5:04:52 PM UTC+1, David Lang wrote:
On 05/04/2016 16:55, lee wrote:
Hi,

I have a board which I need to secure to a wall which needs to be firm when fixed but easily removable, The fixings can't be seen from the front. Ideally the board would be removed at the same height has hung (i.e. doesn't need to be lifted) although a small lift could be possible (approx 15mm).

In a perfect scenario it would be some sort of click latch where you click it into place and then push in to click it out again but the only ones I have seen expect the base piece to be at 90 degrees to the board which wouldnt work on a wall.

Anyone have any ideas?

thanks

Lee.


A French cleat is the obvious answer, but the lift would prolly be too much.

These any good?

http://www.ironmongerydirect.co.uk/p...s_black/440998

--
Dave - The Medway Handyman

Thanks Dave. Any idea how these fixings work? They look like they have some sort of clip at the front? Mine would need to be attached to the back of the board?

French cleat may be the answer provided I could cut a shallow enough groove..

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On Tuesday, April 5, 2016 at 5:14:42 PM UTC+1, Capitol wrote:
Capitol wrote:
lee wrote:
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Iron...Fitting/p60564



15mm is adequate for lift off plates available fron Toolstation.

Thanks Capitol - yeah I had considered these myself. Only issue I thought of (besides the need to lift it up) was that there would be screws sticking out of the board which whilst not a big deal thought there may be a neater option

[Roger Mills[_2_]]

On 05/04/2016 16:55, wrote:
Hi,

I have a board which I need to secure to a wall which needs to be firm when fixed but easily removable, The fixings can't be seen from the front. Ideally the board would be removed at the same height has hung (i.e. doesn't need to be lifted) although a small lift could be possible (approx 15mm).

In a perfect scenario it would be some sort of click latch where you click it into place and then push in to click it out again but the only ones I have seen expect the base piece to be at 90 degrees to the board which wouldnt work on a wall.

Anyone have any ideas?

thanks

Lee.

Is this sort of thing any good? http://button-fix.com/

I've got a few free samples but haven't used them in anger.

In the past, I secured a head-board to a wall invisibly by sinking some
plates with keyhole slots into the back. This just needed some
accurately positioned screws in the wall with enough sticking out to
engage with the keyholes. The whole thing was then slid vertically
downwards - by not more than 10mm - to secure it.
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[Tim Watts[_3_]]

On 05/04/16 16:55, wrote:
Hi,

I have a board which I need to secure to a wall which needs to be firm when fixed but easily removable, The fixings can't be seen from the front. Ideally the board would be removed at the same height has hung (i.e. doesn't need to be lifted) although a small lift could be possible (approx 15mm).

In a perfect scenario it would be some sort of click latch where you click it into place and then push in to click it out again but the only ones I have seen expect the base piece to be at 90 degrees to the board which wouldnt work on a wall.

Anyone have any ideas?

thanks

Lee.


Hi Lee,

It depends how much load the fixings need to cope with.

http://www.first4magnets.com/neodymium-magnets-t137#c41

I have used those to secure a plinth in front of an open washing
machine/dishwasher bay.

You need to buy some keepers too (essentially washers).

If you surface mount the magnet and drill a flat bottomed hole (spade
bit or better a forstner bit and mount the keeper at the base of the
hole, then you get excellent lateral support as the magnet's body acts
as a dowel. If you drill the hole a tad over depth (mm or two) and leave
the screw holding the keepr slightly loose, you can tweak so it grabs
just right without any play on the board being hung.

They are damn powerful magnets - just have to choose how big/how many.

[michael adams[_6_]]

wrote in message
...
Hi,

I have a board which I need to secure to a wall which needs to be firm when fixed but
easily removable, The fixings can't be seen from the front. Ideally the board would be
removed at the same height has hung (i.e. doesn't need to be lifted) although a small
lift could be possible (approx 15mm).

In a perfect scenario it would be some sort of click latch where you click it into place
and then push in to click it out again but the only ones I have seen expect the base
piece to be at 90 degrees to the board which wouldnt work on a wall.

Anyone have any ideas?

thanks

Lee.

.....

You dont say how heavy or how thick this board is.

However the easiest way is to probably to use a couple of
mirror plates

http://www.screwfix.com/p/slotted-mi...-10-pack/14738

These were the first I came across screwfix 32 x 32.

But not in the usual way.

Screw two, to two say 40mm x 40mm pieces of 6mm ply.
Then cut out the material behind the holes in the plates
Or alternatively offer them up to the ply, mark out the
the holes, cut them out and then screw them on.

Glue both mounted plates to the back of the mirror,
with the big end of the holes at the bottom, making
100% certain that the tops of the holes in both plates
are exactly the same distance from the top of the frame.
And that the slots are both at 90%

Slotted plates work because while the head of the nail
or screw can fit in the big hole at the bottom, when
the plate slides down its trapped.

So basically you need to nail or screw two screws or nails
with the appropriate size heads into the wall to take the
frame. Using a level to make sure the two holes are er
100% level, and the correct distance apart obviously.
You only need a certain amount of nail or screw head
protruding for as flush a fit as possible but
its best to check the fit as you go, so you can make
any necessary sideways adjustments before finally screwing
or hammering home.

If the frame is thick enough it would be possible to
create the cavity in the frame itself, and dispense with
the pieces of ply. Allowing a totally flush fit with
the wall.

Then when the large holes at the bottom of the mirror
plates are offered up to the nail or screwheads in the
wall, they will fit into the cavity and the frame can
be lowered down. With the reverse action to remove.

The lift in this case would be about 10mm max.


michael adams

....

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Hi Tim

A very interesting idea which depending on the length of the magnets I think would work. Were you suggesting to use the cylinder shaped ones? - when I clicked on the link it gave me a page of different types.

In the original post I described it as a board to make the question a bit simpler.... In reality, I have made a panel out of t&g cedar (18mm) mounted on a timber frame (around 35mm thick). Whilst I don't think it makes a difference to the suggestions so far but thought I should clarify in case.

Weight of the panel is around 5kg (probably less).

Thanks

Lee.

[[email protected]]

Thanks Michael

If I understand your suggestion correctly, do you mean to essentially fix the plate onto the board and then have the screw protruding from the wall?

Thanks

Lee.

[[email protected]]

Thanks Michael

If I understand your suggestion correctly, do you mean to essentially fix the plate onto the board and then have the screw protruding from the wall?

Thanks

Lee.

[[email protected]]

Thanks Michael

If I understand your suggestion correctly, do you mean to essentially fix the plate onto the board and then have the screw protruding from the wall?

Thanks

Lee.

[michael adams[_6_]]

wrote in message
...
Thanks Michael

If I understand your suggestion correctly, do you mean to essentially fix the plate
onto the board and then have the screw protruding from the wall?

Thanks

Lee.

Yes.

michael adams

....

[Tim Watts[_3_]]

On 05/04/16 18:19, wrote:
Hi Tim

A very interesting idea which depending on the length of the magnets
I think would work. Were you suggesting to use the cylinder shaped
ones? - when I clicked on the link it gave me a page of different
types.


Yes - the cylinder shaped ones with countersunk screw holes

In the original post I described it as a board to make the question a
bit simpler.... In reality, I have made a panel out of t&g cedar
(18mm) mounted on a timber frame (around 35mm thick). Whilst I don't
think it makes a difference to the suggestions so far but thought I
should clarify in case.

Weight of the panel is around 5kg (probably less).

That would be OK - but I'd choose extra or bigger magnets for a job like
that.

If the panel is high up, the risk of it falling is bad, but if it is a
floor level the risk is low.


Thanks

Lee.

[michael adams[_6_]]

"jim" k wrote in message o.uk...
Wrote in message:
Hi,

I have a board which I need to secure to a wall which needs to be firm when fixed but
easily removable, The fixings can't be seen from the front. Ideally the board would
be removed at the same height has hung (i.e. doesn't need to be lifted) although a
small lift could be possible (approx 15mm).

In a perfect scenario it would be some sort of click latch where you click it into
place and then push in to click it out again but the only ones I have seen expect the
base piece to be at 90 degrees to the board which wouldnt work on a wall.

Anyone have any ideas?

thanks

Lee.


Keku clips

--
Jim K

http://www.screwfix.com/p/keku-fixings-x-10-pack/62708

They appear to be only available at 90% degrees, as the OP has
already found with the others of that type that he's seen.

Looking at the illustration it's hard to see where the
"no visible fixing" bit comes in.


michael adams

....

[Jim]

Wrote in message:
Hi,

I have a board which I need to secure to a wall which needs to be firm when fixed but easily removable, The fixings can't be seen from the front. Ideally the board would be removed at the same height has hung (i.e. doesn't need to be lifted) although a small lift could be possible (approx 15mm).

In a perfect scenario it would be some sort of click latch where you click it into place and then push in to click it out again but the only ones I have seen expect the base piece to be at 90 degrees to the board which wouldnt work on a wall.

Anyone have any ideas?

thanks

Lee.


Keku clips

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[ss]

On 05/04/2016 18:57, michael adams wrote:
"jim" k wrote in message o.uk...
Wrote in message:
Hi,

I have a board which I need to secure to a wall which needs to be firm when fixed but
easily removable, The fixings can't be seen from the front. Ideally the board would
be removed at the same height has hung (i.e. doesn't need to be lifted) although a
small lift could be possible (approx 15mm).

In a perfect scenario it would be some sort of click latch where you click it into
place and then push in to click it out again but the only ones I have seen expect the
base piece to be at 90 degrees to the board which wouldnt work on a wall.

Anyone have any ideas?

thanks

Lee.


Keku clips

--
Jim K

http://www.screwfix.com/p/keku-fixings-x-10-pack/62708

They appear to be only available at 90% degrees, as the OP has
already found with the others of that type that he's seen.

Looking at the illustration it's hard to see where the
"no visible fixing" bit comes in.


michael adams

...


I am planning to do similar ie a false wall inside a cupboard (approx
metre sq) I will be attaching elec components when I can get them to
simulate an electrical panel board.
I have so far bought those heavy duty cupboard door magnetic catches
(5kg) Not in use yet but hoping they will be strong enough to hold the
panel in place.

[alan_m]

On 05/04/2016 16:55, wrote:
Hi,

I have a board which I need to secure to a wall which needs to be firm when fixed but easily removable,

I have a _large_ framed mirror hung in my bathroom with 6 off Command
picture strips. They are like heavy duty velco. The large ones claim
holding for a 7Kg frame. I placed the ones I used in the corners and
half way along the longest sides.

Neodymium magnets glued to the wall and metal plates on the back of the
board

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[alan_m]

On 05/04/2016 19:24, ss wrote:

I am planning to do similar ie a false wall inside a cupboard (approx
metre sq) I will be attaching elec components when I can get them to
simulate an electrical panel board.
I have so far bought those heavy duty cupboard door magnetic catches
(5kg) Not in use yet but hoping they will be strong enough to hold the
panel in place.

I have a 'false' wall in my airing cupboard which hides pipes etc. The
wall is held in place with magnets.

http://tinyurl.com/hj4ndtk
(example of random ebay seller of item)



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[Jim]

"michael adams" Wrote in message:

"jim" k wrote in message o.uk...
Wrote in message:
Hi,

I have a board which I need to secure to a wall which needs to be firm when fixed but
easily removable, The fixings can't be seen from the front. Ideally the board would
be removed at the same height has hung (i.e. doesn't need to be lifted) although a
small lift could be possible (approx 15mm).

In a perfect scenario it would be some sort of click latch where you click it into
place and then push in to click it out again but the only ones I have seen expect the
base piece to be at 90 degrees to the board which wouldnt work on a wall.

Anyone have any ideas?

thanks

Lee.


Keku clips

--
Jim K

http://www.screwfix.com/p/keku-fixings-x-10-pack/62708


Your link.
istr various other kinds are available...

They appear to be only available at 90% degrees, as the OP has
already found with the others of that type that he's seen.

So we want an undoable push click fixing to securely mount a board
on a wall without a "90deg element"... Can't see how that's going
to work.

Looking at the illustration it's hard to see where the
"no visible fixing" bit comes in.

Google images is your friend :-)
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[Jim]

jim k Wrote in message:
Wrote in message:
Hi,

I have a board which I need to secure to a wall which needs to be firm when fixed but easily removable, The fixings can't be seen from the front. Ideally the board would be removed at the same height has hung (i.e. doesn't need to be lifted) although a small lift could be possible (approx 15mm).

In a perfect scenario it would be some sort of click latch where you click it into place and then push in to click it out again but the only ones I have seen expect the base piece to be at 90 degrees to the board which wouldnt work on a wall.

Anyone have any ideas?

thanks

Lee.


Keku clips

http://www.ironmongerydirect.co.uk/p..._furniture_and
_hardware/furniture_brackets_and_fixings/17513/button_and_fix_type
_1_plate_and_button_for_countersunk_wood_screws/322911

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[michael adams[_6_]]

"jim" k wrote in message o.uk...
jim k Wrote in message:
Wrote in message:
Hi,

I have a board which I need to secure to a wall which needs to be firm when fixed
but easily removable, The fixings can't be seen from the front. Ideally the board
would be removed at the same height has hung (i.e. doesn't need to be lifted)
although a small lift could be possible (approx 15mm).

In a perfect scenario it would be some sort of click latch where you click it into
place and then push in to click it out again but the only ones I have seen expect the
base piece to be at 90 degrees to the board which wouldnt work on a wall.




http://www.ironmongerydirect.co.uk/p..._furniture_and
_hardware/furniture_brackets_and_fixings/17513/button_and_fix_type
_1_plate_and_button_for_countersunk_wood_screws/322911


Bingo !

Well spotted.

That looks just the ticket, in every respect.

And certainly beats my idea of faffing around with mirror plates.

But then, that was from back in days of the Brass Age.


michael adams

....

[Rod Speed]

wrote

I have a board which I need to secure to a wall which needs
to be firm when fixed but easily removable, The fixings can't
be seen from the front. Ideally the board would be removed
at the same height has hung (i.e. doesn't need to be lifted)
although a small lift could be possible (approx 15mm).

The usual way to do that is with a slot with a large hole at
the end of it that takes a screw head, like you can see on the
back of most plug boards etc. The screw head goes in the
large hole at the end and the body of the screw slides into
the slot at the edge of the hole.

So in your board situation, to remove it you push the board
up a few mm and the screw head comes out of the large hole.
http://picturehangers.co.uk/images/d...1?t=1435309999

In a perfect scenario it would be some sort of click latch where
you click it into place and then push in to click it out again

You don't really need that with a board on the wall,
its weight holds it in the slot at the end of the slot.

but the only ones I have seen expect the base piece to be
at 90 degrees to the board which wouldnt work on a wall.

Anyone have any ideas?

[Chris J Dixon]

wrote:

On Tuesday, April 5, 2016 at 5:14:42 PM UTC+1, Capitol wrote:
Capitol wrote:
lee wrote:
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Iron...Fitting/p60564
15mm is adequate for lift off plates available fron Toolstation.

Thanks Capitol - yeah I had considered these myself. Only issue I thought of (besides the need to lift it up) was that there would be screws sticking out of the board which whilst not a big deal thought there may be a neater option

With the board thickness you mention elsewhere, I can't see you
have a problem.

I used this sort of fitting to convert an IKEA wardrobe door into
a bedhead.

Chris
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Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK


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