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ss December 28th 15 06:37 PM

Tile cut question
 
Questions for the tile experts:
In image one do I take the off cut around the internal corner and then
start a new tile which in turn would be cut and that cut off taken
around the next corner, or do I start at some point with a fresh tile.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...psxrxri3kl.jpg

The other end of the wall will have a similar size off cut but then will
take 2 full size tiles so I reckon that would be ok, opinions?

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...psu7b5cxef.jpg

alan_m December 28th 15 07:11 PM

Tile cut question
 
On 28/12/2015 18:37, ss wrote:
Questions for the tile experts:
In image one do I take the off cut around the internal corner and then
start a new tile which in turn would be cut and that cut off taken
around the next corner, or do I start at some point with a fresh tile.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...psxrxri3kl.jpg

The other end of the wall will have a similar size off cut but then will
take 2 full size tiles so I reckon that would be ok, opinions?

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...psu7b5cxef.jpg



Don't split any tiles around that boxed section - make all the tiles
19cm on one side and all tiles 35cm on the other side. If that wall is
not truly vertical/square the 6cm cut is likely to show this up.

I would treat each wall independently rather than bringing round a 6cm
cut.

I would recommend that you use a plastic or metal edging strip on that
outside vertical edge

Example
https://victoriaplum.com/product/pvc...le-trim-tta025
available in most DIY sheds/tile outlets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAvKvZ3CDvM

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Chris French December 28th 15 07:13 PM

Tile cut question
 
In message , ss
writes
Questions for the tile experts:
In image one do I take the off cut around the internal corner and then
start a new tile which in turn would be cut and that cut off taken
around the next corner, or do I start at some point with a fresh tile.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...psxrxri3kl.jpg

The other end of the wall will have a similar size off cut but then
will take 2 full size tiles so I reckon that would be ok, opinions?

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...psu7b5cxef.jpg



I wouldn't take offcuts round corners like that.. It will look a bit
messy IMO

I assume you are trying to carry the 'bond' of the tiles round the room?
I don't think that really works, and you are better to treat each wall
by itself

For photo 1, just use a single tile cut to length instead of an offcut
and another bit.

For photo 2 I would arrange the tile run so that you have a larger
section of tile at each end
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Chris French


ss December 28th 15 08:31 PM

Tile cut question
 
On 28/12/2015 19:13, Chris French wrote:
I wouldn't take offcuts round corners like that.. It will look a bit
messy IMO

I assume you are trying to carry the 'bond' of the tiles round the room?
I don't think that really works, and you are better to treat each wall
by itself

For photo 1, just use a single tile cut to length instead of an offcut
and another bit.

For photo 2 I would arrange the tile run so that you have a larger
section of tile at each end


Yip I can see that working for pic 2. My concern for pic 1 is taking
away the `brick` bond effect on the boxed in area, although to be honest
it will be a lot easier for me to have single cuts.

djc December 28th 15 09:20 PM

Tile cut question
 
On 28/12/15 18:37, ss wrote:
Questions for the tile experts:
In image one do I take the off cut around the internal corner and then
start a new tile which in turn would be cut and that cut off taken
around the next corner, or do I start at some point with a fresh tile.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...psxrxri3kl.jpg


Use a fresh tile (19cm) on the odd bit of wall (something boxed in?)



The other end of the wall will have a similar size off cut but then will
take 2 full size tiles so I reckon that would be ok, opinions?

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...psu7b5cxef.jpg


looks ok.


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ss December 28th 15 09:25 PM

Tile cut question
 
On 28/12/2015 21:20, DJC wrote:
Use a fresh tile (19cm) on the odd bit of wall (something boxed in?)


Its the pipe stack (waste pipes)

newshound December 28th 15 10:12 PM

Tile cut question
 
On 28/12/2015 18:37, ss wrote:
Questions for the tile experts:
In image one do I take the off cut around the internal corner and then
start a new tile which in turn would be cut and that cut off taken
around the next corner, or do I start at some point with a fresh tile.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...psxrxri3kl.jpg

The other end of the wall will have a similar size off cut but then will
take 2 full size tiles so I reckon that would be ok, opinions?

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...psu7b5cxef.jpg



I'm totally with Alan and Chris on the first one. On the second, I
*don't* like the small offcut at the corner, don't get hung up on
putting uncut edges at "features", it's better to centre your pattern
mid-wall and cut to each edge, with a similar sized cut at each edge.
But *not* a small sliver, better with more than half a tile at each.
Slightly more wasteful but looks better. Especially true on old
properties where nothing is square or vertical. Start in the centre with
true vertical and horizontal, and tile outwards (subject to the rule
about avoiding small pieces). Obviously, you want your "courses" lined
up on adjacent walls.

Chris French December 28th 15 10:15 PM

Tile cut question
 
In message , ss
writes
On 28/12/2015 19:13, Chris French wrote:
I wouldn't take offcuts round corners like that.. It will look a bit
messy IMO

I assume you are trying to carry the 'bond' of the tiles round the room?
I don't think that really works, and you are better to treat each wall
by itself

For photo 1, just use a single tile cut to length instead of an offcut
and another bit.

For photo 2 I would arrange the tile run so that you have a larger
section of tile at each end


Yip I can see that working for pic 2. My concern for pic 1 is taking
away the `brick` bond effect on the boxed in area, although to be
honest it will be a lot easier for me to have single cuts.


It won't notice. It is more likely to look odd the other way.


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Chris French


ss December 29th 15 12:43 AM

Tile cut question
 
On 28/12/2015 22:12, newshound wrote:
On 28/12/2015 18:37, ss wrote:
Questions for the tile experts:
In image one do I take the off cut around the internal corner and then
start a new tile which in turn would be cut and that cut off taken
around the next corner, or do I start at some point with a fresh tile.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...psxrxri3kl.jpg

The other end of the wall will have a similar size off cut but then will
take 2 full size tiles so I reckon that would be ok, opinions?

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...psu7b5cxef.jpg



I'm totally with Alan and Chris on the first one. On the second, I
*don't* like the small offcut at the corner, don't get hung up on
putting uncut edges at "features", it's better to centre your pattern
mid-wall and cut to each edge, with a similar sized cut at each edge.
But *not* a small sliver, better with more than half a tile at each.
Slightly more wasteful but looks better. Especially true on old
properties where nothing is square or vertical. Start in the centre with
true vertical and horizontal, and tile outwards (subject to the rule
about avoiding small pieces). Obviously, you want your "courses" lined
up on adjacent walls.


Thanks to all for the input it has helped a great deal as I was confused
as to how I should tackle those `short walls`
It has been a great help.

thank you

Dave Liquorice[_2_] December 29th 15 11:49 AM

Tile cut question
 
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 19:11:30 +0000, alan_m wrote:

Don't split any tiles around that boxed section - make all the tiles
19cm on one side and all tiles 35cm on the other side. If that wall is
not truly vertical/square the 6cm cut is likely to show this up.


Aye, it'll highlight a very small variation as well, 5 mm out would
show.

I would recommend that you use a plastic or metal edging strip on that
outside vertical edge


Bathroom - wet - plastic IMHO. And use the uncut ends of the tiles at
the edging strip. The cut ends at the inside corners.

For the other corner It depends where it is in relation to the door
and/or which way one will spend most time looking. If it's the corner
you see the moment you enter the room I'd center the "brick bond" at
that corner ie full tiles on one course, the course above the two
halves of one tile cut ends into the corner(*). A proviso on this is
what happens at the two next corners, how visible those corners are
and how narrow the strip is.

The "rule of thumb" of treat each wall seperately and centralise the
tiles works well enough but you can get better results if you do some
measuring and planning before hand particulary if there are any
features such as a window in a given wall. Scale drawings on paper or
computer (don't forget groutlines...) can be very useful.

(*) You may have to make two cuts, or offset from exact center, the
half the tile to take into account tile thickness/groutline etc. The
uncut edge has to be centre of full tile less width of groutline
divided by 2.

Full tiles fitted with a grout filled void (v) and small gap for a
groutline in the corner.

+-----------
| v | full tile
| +-------
|---+
| f |
| u |
| l |
| l |

The cut tile one goes into the corner the other almost butts against
it to maintain the groutline up the corner.

+----------- +----------------- window
|| cut tile |---+ | cut tile
|+------- | c | +-----------
|---+ | u |
| c | | t |
| u | | |
| t | | |
| | | |


Which way round depends on the viewing angle of the corner and where
any windows are in relation to the corner. I think you want the
shorter cut tile on the same wall as the window, so light from the
window doesn't illuminate the "exposed" cut edge of the tile.

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Cheers
Dave.





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