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not just the car- it is the light bulbs too
http://www.theguardian.com/environme...rgy-efficiency
Like my mega efficient Bosch dish washer, that cant wash dishes unless they are clean to start with. |
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not just the car- it is the light bulbs too
"misterroy" wrote in message ... http://www.theguardian.com/environme...rgy-efficiency Like my mega efficient Bosch dish washer, that cant wash dishes unless they are clean to start with. Which model ? I never rinse dishes at all and normally the Bosch dishwasher gets them clean. I normally use Finish detergent. |
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not just the car- it is the light bulbs too
On Thursday, December 17, 2015 at 5:39:15 PM UTC, misterroy wrote:
http://www.theguardian.com/environme...rgy-efficiency Like my mega efficient Bosch dish washer, that cant wash dishes unless they are clean to start with. When my dishwasher seems to not wash properly, I usually find bits of rice in the jets. |
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not just the car- it is the light bulbs too
In message , Lee
Derbyshire writes On Thursday, December 17, 2015 at 5:39:15 PM UTC, misterroy wrote: http://www.theguardian.com/environme...g-lightbulb-br ands-making-false-claims-on-energy-efficiency Like my mega efficient Bosch dish washer, that cant wash dishes unless they are clean to start with. When my dishwasher seems to not wash properly, I usually find bits of rice in the jets. I've got a Bosch dishwasher, about 3 yrs old, it washes much better than the old AEG. Even on the most energy and water efficient programme it normally gets oven casserole dishes clean as well, unless really baked on stuff (and the instructions tell you to not rinse dishes) -- Chris French |
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not just the car- it is the light bulbs too
In message , Lee
Derbyshire writes On Thursday, December 17, 2015 at 5:39:15 PM UTC, misterroy wrote: http://www.theguardian.com/environme...g-lightbulb-br ands-making-false-claims-on-energy-efficiency Like my mega efficient Bosch dish washer, that cant wash dishes unless they are clean to start with. When my dishwasher seems to not wash properly, I usually find bits of rice in the jets. When mine doesn't wash properly I just ask her to do them again. -- Bill |
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not just the car- it is the light bulbs too
"Chris French" wrote in message ... In message , Lee Derbyshire writes On Thursday, December 17, 2015 at 5:39:15 PM UTC, misterroy wrote: http://www.theguardian.com/environme...g-lightbulb-br ands-making-false-claims-on-energy-efficiency Like my mega efficient Bosch dish washer, that cant wash dishes unless they are clean to start with. When my dishwasher seems to not wash properly, I usually find bits of rice in the jets. I've got a Bosch dishwasher, about 3 yrs old, it washes much better than the old AEG. Even on the most energy and water efficient programme it normally gets oven casserole dishes clean as well, unless really baked on stuff (and the instructions tell you to not rinse dishes) My Bosch dishwasher instructions say It is not necessary to rinse the dishes under running water. |
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On Thursday, December 17, 2015 at 7:25:58 PM UTC, Bill wrote:
In message , Lee Derbyshire writes On Thursday, December 17, 2015 at 5:39:15 PM UTC, misterroy wrote: http://www.theguardian.com/environme...g-lightbulb-br ands-making-false-claims-on-energy-efficiency Like my mega efficient Bosch dish washer, that cant wash dishes unless they are clean to start with. When my dishwasher seems to not wash properly, I usually find bits of rice in the jets. When mine doesn't wash properly I just ask her to do them again. -- Bill a mate has an older model and mine was as close as I could get to his. His roasting dish goes in straight from the oven and comes out clean. My machine struggles to clean the plates, but it does pass the A(or A++) rating it has. |
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In article , Rod Speed
wrote: "Chris French" wrote in message ... In message , Lee Derbyshire writes On Thursday, December 17, 2015 at 5:39:15 PM UTC, misterroy wrote: http://www.theguardian.com/environme...g-lightbulb-br ands-making-false-claims-on-energy-efficiency Like my mega efficient Bosch dish washer, that cant wash dishes unless they are clean to start with. When my dishwasher seems to not wash properly, I usually find bits of rice in the jets. I've got a Bosch dishwasher, about 3 yrs old, it washes much better than the old AEG. Even on the most energy and water efficient programme it normally gets oven casserole dishes clean as well, unless really baked on stuff (and the instructions tell you to not rinse dishes) My Bosch dishwasher instructions say It is not necessary to rinse the dishes under running water. so does ours, but practical experience had led us to wash off rice since it clog either the jets or the filter. |
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In message , charles
writes In article , Rod Speed wrote: "Chris French" wrote in message ... In message , Lee Derbyshire writes On Thursday, December 17, 2015 at 5:39:15 PM UTC, misterroy wrote: http://www.theguardian.com/environme...g-lightbulb-br ands-making-false-claims-on-energy-efficiency Like my mega efficient Bosch dish washer, that cant wash dishes unless they are clean to start with. When my dishwasher seems to not wash properly, I usually find bits of rice in the jets. I've got a Bosch dishwasher, about 3 yrs old, it washes much better than the old AEG. Even on the most energy and water efficient programme it normally gets oven casserole dishes clean as well, unless really baked on stuff (and the instructions tell you to not rinse dishes) My Bosch dishwasher instructions say It is not necessary to rinse the dishes under running water. so does ours, but practical experience had led us to wash off rice since it clog either the jets or the filter. Oh yes, I scrape off food remains. But ours is quite specific in telling you not to (as opposed to it not being necessary). It can mess up the way it senses how much washing is required or something. -- Chris French |
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"charles" wrote in message ... In article , Rod Speed wrote: "Chris French" wrote in message ... In message , Lee Derbyshire writes On Thursday, December 17, 2015 at 5:39:15 PM UTC, misterroy wrote: http://www.theguardian.com/environme...g-lightbulb-br ands-making-false-claims-on-energy-efficiency Like my mega efficient Bosch dish washer, that cant wash dishes unless they are clean to start with. When my dishwasher seems to not wash properly, I usually find bits of rice in the jets. I've got a Bosch dishwasher, about 3 yrs old, it washes much better than the old AEG. Even on the most energy and water efficient programme it normally gets oven casserole dishes clean as well, unless really baked on stuff (and the instructions tell you to not rinse dishes) My Bosch dishwasher instructions say It is not necessary to rinse the dishes under running water. so does ours, but practical experience had led us to wash off rice since it clog either the jets or the filter. I don’t normally have much rice left on what its eaten from and don’t bother. I did at one time occasionally get some glasses in the top rack not washed properly but don’t anymore. Not clear why. When I saw it to start with it was when I first started using this dishwasher that I got from a garage sale so maybe there was some stuff in the upper arm that has been washed out since or maybe its just because I am packing the stuff in differently now. I normally fill the entire top rack with the half sized glass bottles we call stubbys that the home brewed beer goes in with just one row of small glasses in there as well. |
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"Chris French" wrote in message ... In message , charles writes In article , Rod Speed wrote: "Chris French" wrote in message ... In message , Lee Derbyshire writes On Thursday, December 17, 2015 at 5:39:15 PM UTC, misterroy wrote: http://www.theguardian.com/environme...g-lightbulb-br ands-making-false-claims-on-energy-efficiency Like my mega efficient Bosch dish washer, that cant wash dishes unless they are clean to start with. When my dishwasher seems to not wash properly, I usually find bits of rice in the jets. I've got a Bosch dishwasher, about 3 yrs old, it washes much better than the old AEG. Even on the most energy and water efficient programme it normally gets oven casserole dishes clean as well, unless really baked on stuff (and the instructions tell you to not rinse dishes) My Bosch dishwasher instructions say It is not necessary to rinse the dishes under running water. so does ours, but practical experience had led us to wash off rice since it clog either the jets or the filter. Oh yes, I scrape off food remains. I only bother with the bigger bits like bits of uneaten potato. I would do with stuff like chop bones but don't eat those much and don't eat T bone steak either, I prefer what we call porterhouse or scotch fillet. But ours is quite specific in telling you not to (as opposed to it not being necessary). It can mess up the way it senses how much washing is required or something. I find that hard to believe. Bet its more likely to be some silly greeny's idea of a better way to do things, using less water. |
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On 17/12/2015 19:36, misterroy wrote:
a mate has an older model and mine was as close as I could get to his. His roasting dish goes in straight from the oven and comes out clean. My machine struggles to clean the plates, but it does pass the A(or A++) rating it has. Its broken. My really cheap A+ machine will clean anything, other than scrambled eggs, off almost anything. I have never found a dishwasher that can cope with egg properly. |
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dennis@home wrote
misterroy wrote a mate has an older model and mine was as close as I could get to his. His roasting dish goes in straight from the oven and comes out clean. My machine struggles to clean the plates, but it does pass the A(or A++) rating it has. Its broken. My really cheap A+ machine will clean anything, other than scrambled eggs, off almost anything. I have never found a dishwasher that can cope with egg properly. Never had any problem with mine. I normally use Finish detergent. One thing that I have had a problem with is the massive glass bowl in convection ovens. I don’t normally bother to put them in the dishwasher after ever use, usually used most nights, because they are so big that the don’t leave much room in the bottom rack of the dishwasher for anything else and don’t really need to be washed that often because I put a paper towel under an inverted rack in the bottom and discard that after each use. So they get washed about every couple of weeks. The worst of the backed on fatty layer doesn’t get removed by the dishwasher, normally using Finish detergent. Presumably a spray with oven cleaner and washing that off under the tap before putting it in the dishwasher should fix that problem but I haven't got around to trying that yet, the problem is entirely cosmetic. http://s.productreview.com.au/produc...0db2094fd8.jpg |
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On 18/12/2015 00:38, Rod Speed wrote:
dennis@home wrote misterroy wrote a mate has an older model and mine was as close as I could get to his. His roasting dish goes in straight from the oven and comes out clean. My machine struggles to clean the plates, but it does pass the A(or A++) rating it has. The energy rating has little to do with cleaning performance. Possibly, even, there's an inverse relationship. Its broken. My really cheap A+ machine will clean anything, other than scrambled eggs, off almost anything. I have never found a dishwasher that can cope with egg properly. Never had any problem with mine. I normally use Finish detergent. Nor me, using Aldi posh pills (about 10p each) and a 6-monthly wash with their dishwasher cleaner. -- Cheers, Rob |
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In message , Rod Speed
writes I did at one time occasionally get some glasses in the top rack not washed properly but dont anymore. Not clear why. My schoolboy sense of humour. Glasses. Not clear ... -- Graeme |
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misterroy wrote:
http://www.theguardian.com/environme...rgy-efficiency It is the familiar trick known as "designing into the tolerances". Legitimate but misleading. Simply, for example, if you are working to a requirement with a 10% tolerance, and you can actually reliably control to 2%, then depending on which way the advantage falls, you aim for either +8% or -8%. First time I came across this was after the GEC takeovers, and the old AEI transformers factory at Wythenshawe was building transformers designed by GEC Rugby. I still remember the undisguised scorn when the AEI engineers saw the GEC technical data sheets and found that they had been doing exactly that. Chris -- Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK Plant amazing Acers. |
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Rod Speed wrote I did at one time occasionally get some glasses in the top rack not washed properly but dont anymore. Not clear why. My schoolboy sense of humour. Glasses. Not clear ... I'd have you publicly flogged if you hadn't enjoyed that so much the last time... |
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