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On Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 10:28:57 AM UTC+1, Adrian wrote:
On Wed, 07 Oct 2015 01:56:44 -0700, sm_jamieson wrote:

You have to be careful to not get stuck below the power band and try
to floor it there, else you basically go nowhere until the turbo
picks up.
That has caught me out a few times, and I would say could actually be
dangerous.


Is there a reason you can't think ahead and change down? Any "danger"
isn't from the turbo's effective range of operation, but from a driver
failing to read the road.


Yes of course, a good driver will do that, and I do, but it could catch
some people out. And you cannot always predict what will happen, on a
roundabout for example.


blink Did you really say that?


Huh ?

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On 07/10/2015 09:56, sm_jamieson wrote:

Yes of course, a good driver will do that, and I do, but it could catch some people out. And you cannot always predict what will happen, on a roundabout for example.


It's not that hard. After you've slowed down, put the car in the right
gear for the speed you're going, don't try and use the wrong one.

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In message , at
17:54:07 on Wed, 7 Oct 2015, Clive George
remarked:
Yes of course, a good driver will do that, and I do, but it could
catch some people out. And you cannot always predict what will happen,
on a roundabout for example.


It's not that hard. After you've slowed down, put the car in the right
gear for the speed you're going, don't try and use the wrong one.


What's all this stuff about 20th century concepts like putting cars into
gear? My diesel car has an automatic gearbox, and more than that it's
"continuously variable". All I do is press the speed pedal, and the car
does the rest.
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In message , at 18:36:45 on
Wed, 7 Oct 2015, Tim Streater remarked:
Yes of course, a good driver will do that, and I do, but it could
catch some people out. And you cannot always predict what will happen,
on a roundabout for example.

It's not that hard. After you've slowed down, put the car in the
right gear for the speed you're going, don't try and use the wrong one.


What's all this stuff about 20th century concepts like putting cars
into gear? My diesel car has an automatic gearbox, and more than that
it's "continuously variable". All I do is press the speed pedal, and
the car does the rest.


Doesn't preclude you from having to think as you drive along. Like
anticipating so that, for the most part, braking is either not
necessary or is much reduced.


Sure, although wasn't the issue here how quickly you could *speed up* if
the need unexpectedly arose?
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On 05/10/2015 15:02, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
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John Rumm wrote:
Without the CC agenda forcing adaptation of diesel cars (by government
social engineering via the tax system), we would still be back much
closer to the point where 90% of the uk car fleet stock was petrol
engined, rather than the 40% it is now.


I doubt it. Diesels generally give considerably better MPG than petrol on
a commute. So cheaper to run even when diesel cost more than petrol.


They also used to cost a significant price premium, making that
difference less significant unless you did high mileages.

At one time diesel cars were slow. Modern engine management means they are
now little different to petrol - but still have an MPG advantage in slow
moving traffic. The lower VED simply being icing on the cake.


Slow, noisy, smelly, carcinogenic... not as slow any more...


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