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Thought on LEDs for ceiling light
I made the decision and ripped out the 4 x halogens in the ceiling
(Shower room), I will replace with LEDs, to make life easier I want standard fittings, no transformers and an easy change bulb. My current thoughts are a central ceiling light with 3 or 4 LED lamps. Thinking to go for 5 watt each. Anyone got experience re light levels etc with this? Warm or daylight. it will need to be bright. I want either bayonet BC22 although light fittings a bit scarce. Or screw E27, Mainly because they may be around long enough to save me changing fittings at a later date. Any issues with E27 or BC22 I am trying to get some uniformity throughout the house as currently I have thin screw type/wide screw type, Gu10 / MR16 and standard bayonet. Any thoughts on the above as this is my first move to LEDs. |
Thought on LEDs for ceiling light
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 20:06:52 +0100, ss wrote:
I made the decision and ripped out the 4 x halogens in the ceiling (Shower room), I will replace with LEDs, to make life easier I want standard fittings, no transformers and an easy change bulb. My current thoughts are a central ceiling light with 3 or 4 LED lamps. Thinking to go for 5 watt each. Anyone got experience re light levels etc with this? Warm or daylight. it will need to be bright. I want either bayonet BC22 although light fittings a bit scarce. Or screw E27, Mainly because they may be around long enough to save me changing fittings at a later date. Any issues with E27 or BC22 I am trying to get some uniformity throughout the house as currently I have thin screw type/wide screw type, Gu10 / MR16 and standard bayonet. Any thoughts on the above as this is my first move to LEDs. What were the halogens you ripped out? If they were GU10s I would have left the fittings & swapped the lamps for good warm white LEDs -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
Thought on LEDs for ceiling light
On 23/08/2015 20:28, Graham. wrote:
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 20:06:52 +0100, wrote: I made the decision and ripped out the 4 x halogens in the ceiling (Shower room), I will replace with LEDs, to make life easier I want standard fittings, no transformers and an easy change bulb. My current thoughts are a central ceiling light with 3 or 4 LED lamps. Thinking to go for 5 watt each. Anyone got experience re light levels etc with this? Warm or daylight. it will need to be bright. I want either bayonet BC22 although light fittings a bit scarce. Or screw E27, Mainly because they may be around long enough to save me changing fittings at a later date. Any issues with E27 or BC22 I am trying to get some uniformity throughout the house as currently I have thin screw type/wide screw type, Gu10 / MR16 and standard bayonet. Any thoughts on the above as this is my first move to LEDs. What were the halogens you ripped out? If they were GU10s I would have left the fittings& swapped the lamps for good warm white LEDs Well it has been on my mind for the last 2 years to get rid of the Halogens and back then when I looked they were expensive, plus I was not happy with the wiring as a couple of them would intermittently just turn off, so I just went for it, it will be a complete rip out of the shower room. Anyhow my kitchen has 13 halogens so will check current prices and see if thats a good option for that room. Lounge has 10 halogens. |
Thought on LEDs for ceiling light
On Sunday, 23 August 2015 20:51:11 UTC+1, ss wrote:
On 23/08/2015 20:28, Graham. wrote: On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 20:06:52 +0100, wrote: I made the decision and ripped out the 4 x halogens in the ceiling (Shower room), I will replace with LEDs, to make life easier I want standard fittings, no transformers and an easy change bulb. My current thoughts are a central ceiling light with 3 or 4 LED lamps. Thinking to go for 5 watt each. Anyone got experience re light levels etc with this? Warm or daylight. it will need to be bright. Daylight are hideous. People tend to assume its just like daytime, its not. I want either bayonet BC22 although light fittings a bit scarce. Or screw E27, Mainly because they may be around long enough to save me changing fittings at a later date. Any issues with E27 or BC22 I am trying to get some uniformity throughout the house as currently I have thin screw type/wide screw type, Gu10 / MR16 and standard bayonet. Any thoughts on the above as this is my first move to LEDs. What were the halogens you ripped out? If they were GU10s I would have left the fittings& swapped the lamps for good warm white LEDs Well it has been on my mind for the last 2 years to get rid of the Halogens and back then when I looked they were expensive, plus I was not happy with the wiring as a couple of them would intermittently just turn off, transformer overheating or holder contacts. Either way very fixable. so I just went for it, it will be a complete rip out of the shower room. Anyhow my kitchen has 13 halogens so will check current prices and see if thats a good option for that room. Lounge has 10 halogens. NT |
Thought on LEDs for ceiling light
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Thought on LEDs for ceiling light
"alan_m" wrote in message ... On 23/08/2015 20:55, wrote: Daylight are hideous. People tend to assume its just like daytime, its not. I prefer cool white to the hideous yellow colour type bulbs. If you eyesight isn't as good as it once was the cool whites tend to give a perceived better contrast, especially when viewing the printed page I've fitted a 300mm x 300mm cool white LED panel in my large(ish) bathroom and I'm impressed with the even light it gives to the whole room. http://www.ledhut.co.uk/commercial-l...anel-1477.html Pity about the price. I've surface mounted it on the ceiling with the supplied transformer in the loft space directly above. The fixing is 4 screws into the ceiling that slide into 4 keyhole fixings mounted on the back of the panel http://i01.i.aliimg.com/photo/v0/584...ng_bracket.jpg In my experience the electronics in the LED GU type down lighters get too hot giving a short lifespan for these type of LED bulb assemblies. |
Thought on LEDs for ceiling light
On Sunday, 23 August 2015 21:11:21 UTC+1, ss wrote:
On 23/08/2015 20:55, nt wrote: Daylight are hideous. People tend to assume its just like daytime, its not. So what you reckon is best other than daylight, other half will make life hell if not bright enough. 2700-3500K are good for domestic use. A minority of people like cooler white, eg 4500K, but to a lot of people those are hideous. 'Daylight' is especially bad. It is roughly the same colour as at least one version of real daylight, but the eye percieves it very differently to real daylight, and it ain't pleasant. NT |
Thought on LEDs for ceiling light
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 21:11:15 +0100, ss wrote:
On 23/08/2015 20:55, wrote: Daylight are hideous. People tend to assume its just like daytime, its not. So what you reckon is best other than daylight, other half will make life hell if not bright enough. So-called "daylight" is often 6000 - 6500K and blueish. For living/working rooms I prefer 4100 - 4600K (I've both and there's very little difference) as it's clear and bright and not blue. In a 12' square room there 3-off 5W, 600lm 4100K lamps in clear/frosted shades and the lighting is, er, brilliant. (Amazon) http://amzn.to/1EerrOf The kitchen, a bit smaller, has 5-off 3W, 320lm 4100K lamps. http://amzn.to/1Eerw4h These are 'sem-flush', not recessed. -- Peter. The gods will stay away whilst religions hold sway |
Thought on LEDs for ceiling light
Some person on one of those house make over shows the other day was waxing
lyrical about led strips which from what he described were all ove the ceiling, must have been an electricians nightmare, no matter how cool it looked. Brian -- From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active "Graham." wrote in message ... On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 20:06:52 +0100, ss wrote: I made the decision and ripped out the 4 x halogens in the ceiling (Shower room), I will replace with LEDs, to make life easier I want standard fittings, no transformers and an easy change bulb. My current thoughts are a central ceiling light with 3 or 4 LED lamps. Thinking to go for 5 watt each. Anyone got experience re light levels etc with this? Warm or daylight. it will need to be bright. I want either bayonet BC22 although light fittings a bit scarce. Or screw E27, Mainly because they may be around long enough to save me changing fittings at a later date. Any issues with E27 or BC22 I am trying to get some uniformity throughout the house as currently I have thin screw type/wide screw type, Gu10 / MR16 and standard bayonet. Any thoughts on the above as this is my first move to LEDs. What were the halogens you ripped out? If they were GU10s I would have left the fittings & swapped the lamps for good warm white LEDs -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
Thought on LEDs for ceiling light
"Rod Speed" wrote in message
... "alan_m" wrote in message ... On 23/08/2015 20:55, wrote: Daylight are hideous. People tend to assume its just like daytime, its not. I prefer cool white to the hideous yellow colour type bulbs. If you eyesight isn't as good as it once was the cool whites tend to give a perceived better contrast, especially when viewing the printed page I've fitted a 300mm x 300mm cool white LED panel in my large(ish) bathroom and I'm impressed with the even light it gives to the whole room. http://www.ledhut.co.uk/commercial-l...anel-1477.html Pity about the price. £30.24 from the same company if you tell tham that you are a trade customer. -- Adam |
Thought on LEDs for ceiling light
"alan_m" wrote in message
... On 23/08/2015 20:55, wrote: Daylight are hideous. People tend to assume its just like daytime, its not. I prefer cool white to the hideous yellow colour type bulbs. If you eyesight isn't as good as it once was the cool whites tend to give a perceived better contrast, especially when viewing the printed page I've fitted a 300mm x 300mm cool white LED panel in my large(ish) bathroom and I'm impressed with the even light it gives to the whole room. http://www.ledhut.co.uk/commercial-l...anel-1477.html I have probably now fitted well over 500 600 x 600 LED grid panels in schools, hospitals offices etc similar to the ones you linked to. I am impressed with them. -- Adam |
Thought on LEDs for ceiling light
alan_m wrote:
I've fitted a 300mm x 300mm cool white LED panel in my large(ish) bathroom and I'm impressed with the even light it gives to the whole room. I've fitted a circular one in my porch (cheapo on eBay) which is only marginally thicker than plasterboard it's recessed into. I cut off and extended the low voltage wiring, so the PSU is completely remote in the garage. The ring of LED tape 'fires' inwards, illuminating the circular glass plate through the edge, with a clever diffusion pattern and reflector above to even out the light pattern. Similar to this ... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/291435256908 |
Thought on LEDs for ceiling light
On 24/08/2015 18:56, ARW wrote:
I have probably now fitted well over 500 600 x 600 LED grid panels in schools, hospitals offices etc similar to the ones you linked to. I am impressed with them. I like the look of the 300x300 ones, I assume although a reasonable shelf life there will come a point the panel needs replacing rather than individual LEDs. Looks like a good option for my shower room. |
Thought on LEDs for ceiling light
On 24/08/2015 18:52, ARW wrote:
http://www.ledhut.co.uk/commercial-l...anel-1477.html Pity about the price. £30.24 from the same company if you tell tham that you are a trade customer. They sometimes do 'VAT free weekends' promotions and/or 10% to 20% off promotions. -- mailto: news {at} admac {dot] myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
Thought on LEDs for ceiling light
"ss" wrote in message
... On 24/08/2015 18:56, ARW wrote: I have probably now fitted well over 500 600 x 600 LED grid panels in schools, hospitals offices etc similar to the ones you linked to. I am impressed with them. I like the look of the 300x300 ones, I assume although a reasonable shelf life there will come a point the panel needs replacing rather than individual LEDs. Looks like a good option for my shower room. I'll take details of what I fit in the morning at a local College. They are 600x600 but there is a 5 year warranty on them. And we will use that if needed. -- Adam |
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"alan_m" wrote in message
... On 24/08/2015 18:52, ARW wrote: http://www.ledhut.co.uk/commercial-l...anel-1477.html Pity about the price. £30.24 from the same company if you tell tham that you are a trade customer. They sometimes do 'VAT free weekends' promotions and/or 10% to 20% off promotions. It's even better value when they offer the promotions to the trade prices:-) -- Adam |
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"Andy Burns" wrote in message
o.uk... alan_m wrote: I've fitted a 300mm x 300mm cool white LED panel in my large(ish) bathroom and I'm impressed with the even light it gives to the whole room. I've fitted a circular one in my porch (cheapo on eBay) which is only marginally thicker than plasterboard it's recessed into. I cut off and extended the low voltage wiring, so the PSU is completely remote in the garage. The ring of LED tape 'fires' inwards, illuminating the circular glass plate through the edge, with a clever diffusion pattern and reflector above to even out the light pattern. Similar to this ... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/291435256908 Trust you to find a light that I have never fitted:-) It looks OK to me. -- Adam |
Thought on LEDs for ceiling light
"ARW" wrote in message ... "Rod Speed" wrote in message ... "alan_m" wrote in message ... On 23/08/2015 20:55, wrote: Daylight are hideous. People tend to assume its just like daytime, its not. I prefer cool white to the hideous yellow colour type bulbs. If you eyesight isn't as good as it once was the cool whites tend to give a perceived better contrast, especially when viewing the printed page I've fitted a 300mm x 300mm cool white LED panel in my large(ish) bathroom and I'm impressed with the even light it gives to the whole room. http://www.ledhut.co.uk/commercial-l...anel-1477.html Pity about the price. £30.24 from the same company if you tell tham that you are a trade customer. Still a mad price. |
Thought on LEDs for ceiling light
"ARW" wrote in message ... "alan_m" wrote in message ... On 23/08/2015 20:55, wrote: Daylight are hideous. People tend to assume its just like daytime, its not. I prefer cool white to the hideous yellow colour type bulbs. If you eyesight isn't as good as it once was the cool whites tend to give a perceived better contrast, especially when viewing the printed page I've fitted a 300mm x 300mm cool white LED panel in my large(ish) bathroom and I'm impressed with the even light it gives to the whole room. http://www.ledhut.co.uk/commercial-l...anel-1477.html I have probably now fitted well over 500 600 x 600 LED grid panels in schools, hospitals offices etc similar to the ones you linked to. I am impressed with them. Yeah, nice concept. Don’t like the price tho. |
Thought on LEDs for ceiling light
Andy Burns wrote:
alan_m wrote: I've fitted a 300mm x 300mm cool white LED panel in my large(ish) bathroom and I'm impressed with the even light it gives to the whole room. I've fitted a circular one in my porch (cheapo on eBay) which is only marginally thicker than plasterboard it's recessed into. I cut off and extended the low voltage wiring, so the PSU is completely remote in the garage. The ring of LED tape 'fires' inwards, illuminating the circular glass plate through the edge, with a clever diffusion pattern and reflector above to even out the light pattern. Similar to this ... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/291435256908 Does it give a wider beam pattern than you'd get with the more usual grid of chips pointing downwards? I want something like that for a walk-in larder with items on shelves right up to the ceiling. A LED bulb in a conventional fitting gives good light distribution but doesn't last long because of the heat. -- Mike Barnes Cheshire, England |
Thought on LEDs for ceiling light
"Rod Speed" wrote in message
... "ARW" wrote in message ... "Rod Speed" wrote in message ... "alan_m" wrote in message ... On 23/08/2015 20:55, wrote: Daylight are hideous. People tend to assume its just like daytime, its not. I prefer cool white to the hideous yellow colour type bulbs. If you eyesight isn't as good as it once was the cool whites tend to give a perceived better contrast, especially when viewing the printed page I've fitted a 300mm x 300mm cool white LED panel in my large(ish) bathroom and I'm impressed with the even light it gives to the whole room. http://www.ledhut.co.uk/commercial-l...anel-1477.html Pity about the price. £30.24 from the same company if you tell tham that you are a trade customer. Still a mad price. And your better alternative is? -- Adam |
Thought on LEDs for ceiling light
"ARW" wrote in message ... "Rod Speed" wrote in message ... "ARW" wrote in message ... "Rod Speed" wrote in message ... "alan_m" wrote in message ... On 23/08/2015 20:55, wrote: Daylight are hideous. People tend to assume its just like daytime, its not. I prefer cool white to the hideous yellow colour type bulbs. If you eyesight isn't as good as it once was the cool whites tend to give a perceived better contrast, especially when viewing the printed page I've fitted a 300mm x 300mm cool white LED panel in my large(ish) bathroom and I'm impressed with the even light it gives to the whole room. http://www.ledhut.co.uk/commercial-l...anel-1477.html Pity about the price. £30.24 from the same company if you tell tham that you are a trade customer. Still a mad price. And your better alternative is? I didn’t say there was a better alternative. That particular market is clearly still in its obscene ripoff phase. |
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On 24/08/2015 21:36, Rod Speed wrote:
"ARW" wrote in message ... "Rod Speed" wrote in message ... "ARW" wrote in message ... "Rod Speed" wrote in message ... "alan_m" wrote in message ... On 23/08/2015 20:55, wrote: Daylight are hideous. People tend to assume its just like daytime, its not. I prefer cool white to the hideous yellow colour type bulbs. If you eyesight isn't as good as it once was the cool whites tend to give a perceived better contrast, especially when viewing the printed page I've fitted a 300mm x 300mm cool white LED panel in my large(ish) bathroom and I'm impressed with the even light it gives to the whole room. http://www.ledhut.co.uk/commercial-l...anel-1477.html Pity about the price. £30.24 from the same company if you tell tham that you are a trade customer. Still a mad price. And your better alternative is? I didn’t say there was a better alternative. That particular market is clearly still in its obscene ripoff phase. £20 on ebay. |
Thought on LEDs for ceiling light
"ss" wrote in message ... On 24/08/2015 21:36, Rod Speed wrote: "ARW" wrote in message ... "Rod Speed" wrote in message ... "ARW" wrote in message ... "Rod Speed" wrote in message ... "alan_m" wrote in message ... On 23/08/2015 20:55, wrote: Daylight are hideous. People tend to assume its just like daytime, its not. I prefer cool white to the hideous yellow colour type bulbs. If you eyesight isn't as good as it once was the cool whites tend to give a perceived better contrast, especially when viewing the printed page I've fitted a 300mm x 300mm cool white LED panel in my large(ish) bathroom and I'm impressed with the even light it gives to the whole room. http://www.ledhut.co.uk/commercial-l...anel-1477.html Pity about the price. £30.24 from the same company if you tell tham that you are a trade customer. Still a mad price. And your better alternative is? I didn’t say there was a better alternative. That particular market is clearly still in its obscene ripoff phase. £20 on ebay. Still an obscene ripoff, particularly without the 5 year warranty so that it may well not even manage to last a year etc. |
Thought on LEDs for ceiling light
Mike Barnes wrote:
Andy Burns wrote: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/291435256908 Does it give a wider beam pattern than you'd get with the more usual grid of chips pointing downwards? I'd say *considerably* better than downward firing LEDs, the diffusion sheet (a bit like a circular halftone screen) does an excellent job. Mine's 6" diameter, 6 watt, mounted centrally in a 6'x4' ish porch with 6'6" ceiling. It gives a good wash of light onto all walls and the floor, except for about a 2" band around the top of the walls due to the 3mm high bezel, so at least a 175° beam. |
Thought on LEDs for ceiling light
Andy Burns wrote:
Mike Barnes wrote: Andy Burns wrote: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/291435256908 Does it give a wider beam pattern than you'd get with the more usual grid of chips pointing downwards? I'd say *considerably* better than downward firing LEDs, the diffusion sheet (a bit like a circular halftone screen) does an excellent job. Mine's 6" diameter, 6 watt, mounted centrally in a 6'x4' ish porch with 6'6" ceiling. It gives a good wash of light onto all walls and the floor, except for about a 2" band around the top of the walls due to the 3mm high bezel, so at least a 175° beam. That sounds perfect. Can you quote the item number you bought? I can't tell from the product descriptions I've looked at which ones are designed like yours (though some are obviously not). -- Mike Barnes Cheshire, England |
Thought on LEDs for ceiling light
Mike Barnes wrote:
Andy Burns wrote: It gives a good wash of light onto all walls and the floor, except for about a 2" band around the top of the walls due to the 3mm high bezel, so at least a 175° beam. That sounds perfect. Can you quote the item number you bought? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261376041772 But that seller seems to have nothing for sale now, The photos should let you find a similar one, I daresay they all come off the same production line ... |
Thought on LEDs for ceiling light
alan_m Wrote in message:
In my experience the electronics in the LED GU type down lighters get too hot giving a short lifespan for these type of LED bulb assemblies. IMHO it's crap electronics - I've had the same problem, but I reckoned the electronics were not getting that hot, and a change of bulb brand seems to have solved it. With any new technology it takes a while to iron out the initial problems. -- Biggles ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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