Thinking of getting one as support in cases of accidents. I recall seeing
enthusiastic reviews some time back (when I wasn't thinking of getting one)
that was about £30.
Has anone any experience of such a cheap camera?

"DerbyBorn" wrote in message
2.222...
Thinking of getting one as support in cases of accidents. I recall seeing
enthusiastic reviews some time back (when I wasn't thinking of getting
one)
that was about £30.
Has anone any experience of such a cheap camera?

Metoo!

I'm just looking for something that will record "it was the stupid bugger in
front's fault" I don't even need it (though it would be nice) to be a good
enough to prove who that stupid bugger was.

I've no interest in taking videos that I will keep to "show to my
friends"/"review my driving performance", which I understand is the
motivation of many who buy this "toy"

tim

tim..... wrote:

"DerbyBorn" wrote in message
2.222...
Thinking of getting one as support in cases of accidents. I recall seeing
enthusiastic reviews some time back (when I wasn't thinking of getting
one)
that was about £30.
Has anone any experience of such a cheap camera?

Metoo!

I'm just looking for something that will record "it was the stupid
bugger in front's fault" I don't even need it (though it would be nice)
to be a good enough to prove who that stupid bugger was.

I've no interest in taking videos that I will keep to "show to my
friends"/"review my driving performance", which I understand is the
motivation of many who buy this "toy"

tim



I've bought a couple of cheap units from Amazon. They work remarkably
well. The dark performance surprises me, Purely used as a toy so far.

On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 16:20:12 +0100, Capitol wrote:

I'm just looking for something that will record "it was the stupid
bugger in front's fault"

The prats with Magic Indicators as they join a motorway flowing at
60+ at 40-.

I don't even need it (though it would be nice) to be a good enough
to
prove who that stupid bugger was.

I don't think there any 4K Dashcams out there yet to enable the
reading of number plate at 25yds of course seeing what the Red BMW
was doing before it collided with something is probably proof enough
as to what happened.

I've bought a couple of cheap units from Amazon. They work remarkably
well.

I've a cheapy as well. Supposed to be "HD" but that is upscaling and
ARCing the native VGA 640x480 sensor. It's good enough to see what's
going on but you can't read the number plate of a vehicle that has
just overtaken you.

The dark performance surprises me,

Not bad in street lit areas but is strictly limited to the bright
zone of the headlights without street lights.

Purely used as a toy so far.

I have it mainly for the winter to show colleagues when I arrive on
site the conditions up here that didn't stop me.

Now I've had it for a while I'd now want one with WiFi or Bluetooth
so you don't have to remove the camera from the car, or the card from
the camera, to transfer movies to somewhere more accessable.

I also have AutoGuard Dash Cam - Blackbox by Hovan Yoo on the
(Android) phone, that works pretty well. Bung that on a dedicated
phone with a HD camera and you get the GPS based stuff and
WiFi/Bluetooth, needs a mount and dark performance might not be very
good. I'm not sure if it has gapless recording though, ie it drops a
second when ending one x minute recording and starting the next. Sods
law dictates that the crucial event will happen in that gap... The
cheapy is gapless.

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On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 22:43:14 +0100 (BST), "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:

On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 16:20:12 +0100, Capitol wrote:

I'm just looking for something that will record "it was the stupid
bugger in front's fault"

The prats with Magic Indicators as they join a motorway flowing at
60+ at 40-.

I don't even need it (though it would be nice) to be a good enough
to
prove who that stupid bugger was.

I don't think there any 4K Dashcams out there yet to enable the
reading of number plate at 25yds of course seeing what the Red BMW
was doing before it collided with something is probably proof enough
as to what happened.

I've bought a couple of cheap units from Amazon. They work remarkably
well.

I've a cheapy as well. Supposed to be "HD" but that is upscaling and
ARCing the native VGA 640x480 sensor. It's good enough to see what's
going on but you can't read the number plate of a vehicle that has
just overtaken you.

The dark performance surprises me,

Not bad in street lit areas but is strictly limited to the bright
zone of the headlights without street lights.

Purely used as a toy so far.

I have it mainly for the winter to show colleagues when I arrive on
site the conditions up here that didn't stop me.

Now I've had it for a while I'd now want one with WiFi or Bluetooth
so you don't have to remove the camera from the car, or the card from
the camera, to transfer movies to somewhere more accessable.

I also have AutoGuard Dash Cam - Blackbox by Hovan Yoo on the
(Android) phone, that works pretty well. Bung that on a dedicated
phone with a HD camera and you get the GPS based stuff and
WiFi/Bluetooth, needs a mount and dark performance might not be very
good. I'm not sure if it has gapless recording though, ie it drops a
second when ending one x minute recording and starting the next. Sods
law dictates that the crucial event will happen in that gap... The
cheapy is gapless.

Here's the latest incident recorded on my very cheap (£10 delivered)
Ebay camara
https://youtu.be/CLk7OpgvqYo?t=70



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In message 2,
DerbyBorn writes
Thinking of getting one as support in cases of accidents. I recall seeing
enthusiastic reviews some time back (when I wasn't thinking of getting one)
that was about £30.
Has anone any experience of such a cheap camera?
I got one for ~£10 that seems to do the job, but from reading around it
appears that the insurance companies, police etc. aren't interested
unless it's got GPS so that your own speed, location and time can be
verified. I therefore went for the model below, but it's a tad more than
you may want to pay - £150ish.

http://amzn.to/1EKScV9
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In message , Nick
writes
In message 2,
DerbyBorn writes
Thinking of getting one as support in cases of accidents. I recall seeing
enthusiastic reviews some time back (when I wasn't thinking of getting one)
that was about £30.
Has anone any experience of such a cheap camera?
I got one for ~£10 that seems to do the job, but from reading around it
appears that the insurance companies, police etc. aren't interested
unless it's got GPS so that your own speed, location and time can be
verified. I therefore went for the model below, but it's a tad more
than you may want to pay - £150ish.

http://amzn.to/1EKScV9

I'm still using the very cheap sub-£10 ones in the car. I have 2 and
swap them round from time to time. There are occasional problems where I
have to reset, but they are amazingly good for the price.

In the Disco, I have tried an Android tablet in a windscreen mount. It's
a bit big and I had what looked like hum bars moving up the screen until
I poked some rubber between the dash and the tablet to reduce the
vibration.
There is free software, which I think will record the GPS etc. The only
time I've really tried it was on a trip across Wales last summer, and
the quality was excellent. I just did a linear record, but I think it
can be set to loop record.
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On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 14:58:50 +0100, Nick wrote:

In message 2,
DerbyBorn writes
Thinking of getting one as support in cases of accidents. I recall seeing
enthusiastic reviews some time back (when I wasn't thinking of getting one)
that was about £30.
Has anone any experience of such a cheap camera?
I got one for ~£10 that seems to do the job, but from reading around it
appears that the insurance companies, police etc. aren't interested
unless it's got GPS so that your own speed, location and time can be
verified. I therefore went for the model below, but it's a tad more than
you may want to pay - £150ish.

http://amzn.to/1EKScV9

Speed location and time is irrelevant if the video clearly shows the other person doing an illegal manoeuvre.

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"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
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On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 14:58:50 +0100, Nick wrote:

In message 2,
DerbyBorn writes
Thinking of getting one as support in cases of accidents. I recall
seeing
enthusiastic reviews some time back (when I wasn't thinking of getting
one)
that was about £30.
Has anone any experience of such a cheap camera?
I got one for ~£10 that seems to do the job, but from reading around it
appears that the insurance companies, police etc. aren't interested
unless it's got GPS so that your own speed, location and time can be
verified. I therefore went for the model below, but it's a tad more than
you may want to pay - £150ish.

http://amzn.to/1EKScV9

Speed location and time is irrelevant if the video clearly shows the other
person doing an illegal manoeuvre.

But may be useful if for example someone overtakes you
when you are going at the current legal maximum speed
and misjudges the speed of the oncoming traffic and
causes an accident when they have to pull into your
lane very suddenly etc.

On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 20:20:44 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
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On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 14:58:50 +0100, Nick wrote:

In message 2,
DerbyBorn writes
Thinking of getting one as support in cases of accidents. I recall
seeing
enthusiastic reviews some time back (when I wasn't thinking of getting
one)
that was about £30.
Has anone any experience of such a cheap camera?
I got one for ~£10 that seems to do the job, but from reading around it
appears that the insurance companies, police etc. aren't interested
unless it's got GPS so that your own speed, location and time can be
verified. I therefore went for the model below, but it's a tad more than
you may want to pay - £150ish.

http://amzn.to/1EKScV9

Speed location and time is irrelevant if the video clearly shows the other
person doing an illegal manoeuvre.

But may be useful if for example someone overtakes you
when you are going at the current legal maximum speed
and misjudges the speed of the oncoming traffic and
causes an accident when they have to pull into your
lane very suddenly etc.

Speeding would be irrelevant. They would still be at fault even if you were going below the speed limit, and they were at it.

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"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
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On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 20:20:44 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 14:58:50 +0100, Nick wrote:

In message 2,
DerbyBorn writes
Thinking of getting one as support in cases of accidents. I recall
seeing
enthusiastic reviews some time back (when I wasn't thinking of getting
one)
that was about £30.
Has anone any experience of such a cheap camera?
I got one for ~£10 that seems to do the job, but from reading around it
appears that the insurance companies, police etc. aren't interested
unless it's got GPS so that your own speed, location and time can be
verified. I therefore went for the model below, but it's a tad more
than
you may want to pay - £150ish.

http://amzn.to/1EKScV9

Speed location and time is irrelevant if the video clearly shows the
other
person doing an illegal manoeuvre.

But may be useful if for example someone overtakes you
when you are going at the current legal maximum speed
and misjudges the speed of the oncoming traffic and
causes an accident when they have to pull into your
lane very suddenly etc.

Speeding would be irrelevant.

Not in that case where it's the speeding that caused the accident.

They would still be at fault even if you were going below the speed limit,
and they were at it.

But its more obvious that they are at fault if
they were going well over the speed limit.

Same with where they claim that you were exceeding
the speed limit when they were at fault in the same
way with them in the other lane coming towards you.
They can't claim that you were at fault because you
were going well over the speed limit and that they
could have passed the other car safely if you had
been going at a legal speed.

On 22/08/2015 20:20, Rod Speed wrote:

But may be useful if for example someone overtakes you
when you are going at the current legal maximum speed
and misjudges the speed of the oncoming traffic and
causes an accident when they have to pull into your
lane very suddenly etc.


If you can drive you would have seen that coming and taken avoiding
action to prevent a crash involving you.
Of course if they pull into the side of you the camera probably won't
see it happen.

dennis@home wrote
Rod Speed wrote

But may be useful if for example someone overtakes you
when you are going at the current legal maximum speed
and misjudges the speed of the oncoming traffic and
causes an accident when they have to pull into your
lane very suddenly etc.

If you can drive you would have seen that coming

Not necessarily, most obviously in rolling country
where the other car may well be over the rise and
not visible.

and taken avoiding action to prevent a crash involving you.

Not even possible if you can't see the other car until too late.

Of course if they pull into the side of you
the camera probably won't see it happen.

Depends on how wide a view it has. The best ones will capture that.

On 22/08/2015 12:47, DerbyBorn wrote:
Thinking of getting one as support in cases of accidents. I recall seeing
enthusiastic reviews some time back (when I wasn't thinking of getting one)
that was about £30.
Has anone any experience of such a cheap camera?


Have a look on this http://www.techmoan.com/guide-to-dashcams/ website

Have a look at the different dash cams and he thinks of them. That
should give you some ideas as to what would suite you.

I bought a mobious dashcam last year, and love it.

On 22/08/2015 15:55, BobH wrote:

Have a look on this http://www.techmoan.com/guide-to-dashcams/ website

Have a look at the different dash cams and he thinks of them. That
should give you some ideas as to what would suite you.


+1

Another Dave
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On 22/08/2015 12:47, DerbyBorn wrote:
Thinking of getting one as support in cases of accidents. I recall seeing
enthusiastic reviews some time back (when I wasn't thinking of getting one)
that was about £30.
Has anone any experience of such a cheap camera?


I bought a Transcend DrivePro 200 a few months ago. Very nice image
quality. About £80 in Halfords I believe.

"DerbyBorn" wrote in message
2.222...
Thinking of getting one as support in cases of accidents.

IMO you need an invisible one so that if the accident
was your fault, you can just not mention it.

I recall seeing
enthusiastic reviews some time back (when I wasn't thinking of getting
one)
that was about £30.
Has anone any experience of such a cheap camera?

On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 20:00:48 +0100, Santo Brown wrote:



"DerbyBorn" wrote in message
2.222...
Thinking of getting one as support in cases of accidents.

IMO you need an invisible one so that if the accident
was your fault, you can just not mention it.

Just remove it quickly and hide it.

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"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
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On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 20:00:48 +0100, Santo Brown wrote:



"DerbyBorn" wrote in message
2.222...
Thinking of getting one as support in cases of accidents.

IMO you need an invisible one so that if the accident
was your fault, you can just not mention it.

Just remove it quickly and hide it.

Easier said than done, particularly if it's a serious accident
and you can't get to it because you aren't free to move.
Makes more sense to have an invisible one so that
no one except you knows that there is one in your car.

And it makes sense for it to be able to do everything,
provide you with a record of who broke into your car
too and who side swiped it when it was parked or ran
into the back of your car.

On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 20:24:31 +0100, Santo Brown wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
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On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 20:00:48 +0100, Santo Brown wrote:



"DerbyBorn" wrote in message
2.222...
Thinking of getting one as support in cases of accidents.

IMO you need an invisible one so that if the accident
was your fault, you can just not mention it.

Just remove it quickly and hide it.

Easier said than done, particularly if it's a serious accident
and you can't get to it because you aren't free to move.

Can't say I've ever had one of those.

Makes more sense to have an invisible one so that
no one except you knows that there is one in your car.

The invisibility cloak has not yet been invented.

And it makes sense for it to be able to do everything,
provide you with a record of who broke into your car
too and who side swiped it when it was parked or ran
into the back of your car.

Perhaps. But the majority of the time it was someone hitting you when you were driving.

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She wanted to keep it.

"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
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On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 20:24:31 +0100, Santo Brown wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
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On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 20:00:48 +0100, Santo Brown
wrote:



"DerbyBorn" wrote in message
2.222...
Thinking of getting one as support in cases of accidents.

IMO you need an invisible one so that if the accident
was your fault, you can just not mention it.

Just remove it quickly and hide it.

Easier said than done, particularly if it's a serious accident
and you can't get to it because you aren't free to move.

Can't say I've ever had one of those.

Nor me

and if I did, the last thing I would be worried about is losing my no claims
because it was my fault

tim

"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
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On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 20:24:31 +0100, Santo Brown wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 20:00:48 +0100, Santo Brown
wrote:



"DerbyBorn" wrote in message
2.222...
Thinking of getting one as support in cases of accidents.

IMO you need an invisible one so that if the accident
was your fault, you can just not mention it.

Just remove it quickly and hide it.

Easier said than done, particularly if it's a serious accident
and you can't get to it because you aren't free to move.

Can't say I've ever had one of those.

But they obviously do occur.

Makes more sense to have an invisible one so that
no one except you knows that there is one in your car.

The invisibility cloak has not yet been invented.

It isn't hard to have the lens so that it isn't obviously a camera lens.

And it makes sense for it to be able to do everything,
provide you with a record of who broke into your car
too and who side swiped it when it was parked or ran
into the back of your car.

Perhaps.

No perhaps about it.

But the majority of the time it was someone hitting you when you were
driving.

But it makes more sense to have the cameras do it all
and be a reversing camera and parking camera as well.

I find with the modern cars that slope very sharply at the
front, it isn't at all clear just where the front of the car is
when parking so it would be useful to have the cameras
help with that as well.

On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 12:47:53 +0100, DerbyBorn wrote:

Thinking of getting one as support in cases of accidents. I recall seeing
enthusiastic reviews some time back (when I wasn't thinking of getting one)
that was about £30.
Has anone any experience of such a cheap camera?

This does me fine: GS8000L - £17 inc postage. I added a large SD card though, it uses it up quick. And buy a known make like Kingston and make sure it's a speed 10 or better, there's some **** SD cards going about that can't handle continuous high speed writing. The first two I bought I had to get refunds for. One was too slow and one broke.

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On 22/08/2015 12:47, DerbyBorn wrote:
Thinking of getting one as support in cases of accidents. I recall seeing
enthusiastic reviews some time back (when I wasn't thinking of getting one)
that was about £30.
Has anone any experience of such a cheap camera?


Brilliant info here - http://www.techmoan.com/guide-to-dashcams/

I use a Mini 0806, which works perfectly.

Thinking of getting one as support in cases of accidents. I recall seeing
enthusiastic reviews some time back (when I wasn't thinking of getting one)
that was about £30.
Has anone any experience of such a cheap camera?



Do you have an iPhone? If so get the free "Witness" app It works well and
records speed, location and G forces.

Mike

"Muddymike" wrote in
om:

Thinking of getting one as support in cases of accidents. I recall
seeing
enthusiastic reviews some time back (when I wasn't thinking of getting
one) that was about £30.
Has anone any experience of such a cheap camera?



Do you have an iPhone? If so get the free "Witness" app It works well
and records speed, location and G forces.

Mike



Obsolete.

"Muddymike" wrote in
news:_qidnSr57dL2z3jInZ2dnUU78VWdnZ2d@brightview. com:

Thinking of getting one as support in cases of accidents. I recall
seeing
enthusiastic reviews some time back (when I wasn't thinking of getting
one) that was about £30.
Has anone any experience of such a cheap camera?



Do you have an iPhone? If so get the free "Witness" app It works well
and records speed, location and G forces.

Mike



Obsolete.

I didn't know that! There are others.

Mike

On 01/09/2015 08:27, Muddymike wrote:
Thinking of getting one as support in cases of accidents. I recall seeing
enthusiastic reviews some time back (when I wasn't thinking of getting
one)
that was about £30.
Has anone any experience of such a cheap camera?



Do you have an iPhone? If so get the free "Witness" app It works well
and records speed, location and G forces.

Mike

Yes I got one on eBay for about £30. It's a "Blackview" (sic) - not to
be confused with the much better-known "Blackvue" range!
Image quality is surprisingly good but I think the lens is slightly out
of focus, which isn't easily adjustable. It outputs HD 1080i. Night-time
image is pretty poor though.

It's probably worth paying rather more for a genuine brand.

I still haven't wired up a power lead to where I'd need to mount it in
the car so hardly ever use it.



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