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A toilet anywhere?
There was an ad on the radio the other day which I did not catch but
appeared to be saying now you can have a toilet anywhere. Is this true, as I'm considering putting a timber megashed thing near the bottom of my garden well away from nasty interfering psus and powerline adaptors for my radio listening etc, and might need a toilet that is closer than 150 feet away! I don't want to get involved in pipes running down the garden, but I have a feeling the only way is one of those portable jobs that caravans use. Brian -- From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active |
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They mean using a saniflo. You'd have to run mains water down there and electricity, although the electricity would presumably be there anyway for your radio equipment. It then requires a waste pipe running back to the drains, this is normally about 25mm "Brian-Gaff" wrote in message ... There was an ad on the radio the other day which I did not catch but appeared to be saying now you can have a toilet anywhere. Is this true, as I'm considering putting a timber megashed thing near the bottom of my garden well away from nasty interfering psus and powerline adaptors for my radio listening etc, and might need a toilet that is closer than 150 feet away! I don't want to get involved in pipes running down the garden, but I have a feeling the only way is one of those portable jobs that caravans use. Brian -- From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active |
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On 06/07/2015 13:44, Phil L wrote:
They mean using a saniflo. You'd have to run mains water down there and electricity, although the electricity would presumably be there anyway for your radio equipment. It then requires a waste pipe running back to the drains, this is normally about 25mm "Brian-Gaff" wrote in message ... There was an ad on the radio the other day which I did not catch but appeared to be saying now you can have a toilet anywhere. Is this true, as I'm considering putting a timber megashed thing near the bottom of my garden well away from nasty interfering psus and powerline adaptors for my radio listening etc, and might need a toilet that is closer than 150 feet away! I don't want to get involved in pipes running down the garden, but I have a feeling the only way is one of those portable jobs that caravans use. Brian -- From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active The simple option for No 1's is a bale of straw, which makes a good addition to a compost heap when saturated. |
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On Mon, 6 Jul 2015 13:44:15 +0100, "Phil L"
wrote: They mean using a saniflo. Putting a Saniflo in a wooden shed has the great advantage that it is much easier to set fire to the shed when the Saniflo blocks (which it will) than is the case with a brick structure. |
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On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 13:44:15 +0100, Phil L wrote:
They mean using a saniflo. You'd have to run mains water down there and electricity, although the electricity would presumably be there anyway for your radio equipment. It then requires a waste pipe running back to the drains, this is normally about 25mm "Brian-Gaff" wrote in message ... There was an ad on the radio the other day which I did not catch but appeared to be saying now you can have a toilet anywhere. Is this true, as I'm considering putting a timber megashed thing near the bottom of my garden well away from nasty interfering psus and powerline adaptors for my radio listening etc, and might need a toilet that is closer than 150 feet away! I don't want to get involved in pipes running down the garden, but I have a feeling the only way is one of those portable jobs that caravans use. Brian -- From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active If you are going to run a waste pipe down the garden, presumably buried to protect from frost, then you might as well run the real thing. Otherwise a cassette toilet as found in caravans is fine as long as you are prepared to empty it regularly. Cheers Dave R -- Windows 8.1 on PCSpecialist box |
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Peter Parry writes: On Mon, 6 Jul 2015 13:44:15 +0100, "Phil L" wrote: They mean using a saniflo. Putting a Saniflo in a wooden shed has the great advantage that it is much easier to set fire to the shed when the Saniflo blocks (which it will) than is the case with a brick structure. When I saw you had followed up, I knew exactly when you were going to say before clicking on the message ;-) -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
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newshound writes: The simple option for No 1's is a bale of straw, which makes a good addition to a compost heap when saturated. Or keep the watering can down there. Pee into it, and at the end of the day, fill it with water and water the garden/lawn. Very good on lawns, but must be diluted as if too concentrated it stops roots absorbing any nutrients and kills the grass. -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
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On 2015-07-06, Peter Parry wrote:
On Mon, 6 Jul 2015 13:44:15 +0100, "Phil L" wrote: They mean using a saniflo. Putting a Saniflo in a wooden shed has the great advantage that it is much easier to set fire to the shed when the Saniflo blocks (which it will) than is the case with a brick structure. It's a wonder they can sell the things with all the commentary they attract. |
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On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 18:20:10 +0000, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article , Peter Parry writes: On Mon, 6 Jul 2015 13:44:15 +0100, "Phil L" wrote: They mean using a saniflo. Putting a Saniflo in a wooden shed has the great advantage that it is much easier to set fire to the shed when the Saniflo blocks (which it will) than is the case with a brick structure. When I saw you had followed up, I knew exactly when you were going to say before clicking on the message ;-) So did I! |
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Brian-Gaff wrote:
There was an ad on the radio the other day which I did not catch but appeared to be saying now you can have a toilet anywhere. Is this true, as I'm considering putting a timber megashed thing near the bottom of my garden well away from nasty interfering psus and powerline adaptors for my radio listening etc, and might need a toilet that is closer than 150 feet away! I don't want to get involved in pipes running down the garden, but I have a feeling the only way is one of those portable jobs that caravans use. Brian I should get a cheap caravan bog, but when you want a **** go **** somewhere else most times. Just **** in the caravan bog often enough to cover the turds. Bill |
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On 06/07/2015 20:27, Bob Eager wrote:
On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 18:20:10 +0000, Andrew Gabriel wrote: In article , Peter Parry writes: On Mon, 6 Jul 2015 13:44:15 +0100, "Phil L" wrote: They mean using a saniflo. Putting a Saniflo in a wooden shed has the great advantage that it is much easier to set fire to the shed when the Saniflo blocks (which it will) than is the case with a brick structure. When I saw you had followed up, I knew exactly when you were going to say before clicking on the message ;-) So did I! And me! And I have a saniflo. |
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Bill Wright wrote in
: Brian-Gaff wrote: There was an ad on the radio the other day which I did not catch but appeared to be saying now you can have a toilet anywhere. Is this true, as I'm considering putting a timber megashed thing near the bottom of my garden well away from nasty interfering psus and powerline adaptors for my radio listening etc, and might need a toilet that is closer than 150 feet away! I don't want to get involved in pipes running down the garden, but I have a feeling the only way is one of those portable jobs that caravans use. Brian I should get a cheap caravan bog, but when you want a **** go **** somewhere else most times. Just **** in the caravan bog often enough to cover the turds. Bill Surely - plan your Number Two before going to the Radio Shed. |
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Ah thought so, thanks, one assumes it just mashes up the waste and pumps it
away then. Brian -- From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active "Phil L" wrote in message ... They mean using a saniflo. You'd have to run mains water down there and electricity, although the electricity would presumably be there anyway for your radio equipment. It then requires a waste pipe running back to the drains, this is normally about 25mm "Brian-Gaff" wrote in message ... There was an ad on the radio the other day which I did not catch but appeared to be saying now you can have a toilet anywhere. Is this true, as I'm considering putting a timber megashed thing near the bottom of my garden well away from nasty interfering psus and powerline adaptors for my radio listening etc, and might need a toilet that is closer than 150 feet away! I don't want to get involved in pipes running down the garden, but I have a feeling the only way is one of those portable jobs that caravans use. Brian -- From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active |
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Andrew Gabriel wrote: Or keep the watering can down there. Pee into it, and at the end of the day, fill it with water and water the garden/lawn. Very good on lawns, but must be diluted as if too concentrated it stops roots absorbing any nutrients and kills the grass. Even better on the compost. -- *Why doesn't Tarzan have a beard? * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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En el artículo , Andrew Gabriel
escribió: When I saw you had followed up, I knew exactly when you were going to say before clicking on the message ;-) I was thinking it was abuut time for the annual Saniflo warning. -- (\_/) (='.'=) (")_(") |
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On Tue, 7 Jul 2015 08:26:32 +0100, "Brian-Gaff"
wrote: Ah thought so, thanks, one assumes it just mashes up the waste and pumps it away then. Brian They don't mash, they macerate ;-) -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
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On Tue, 07 Jul 2015 13:26:58 +0100, Graham. wrote:
Ah thought so, thanks, one assumes it just mashes up the waste and pumps it away then. They don't mash, they macerate ;-) Enough of the euphemisms. They're turd-mincers. |
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Brian-Gaff used his keyboard to write :
There was an ad on the radio the other day which I did not catch but appeared to be saying now you can have a toilet anywhere. Is this true, as I'm considering putting a timber megashed thing near the bottom of my garden well away from nasty interfering psus and powerline adaptors for my radio listening etc, and might need a toilet that is closer than 150 feet away! I don't want to get involved in pipes running down the garden, but I have a feeling the only way is one of those portable jobs that caravans use. Brian Saniflow and there is only one thing worse than a Saniflow - that's a Saniflow with long discharge pipes. -- Regards, Harry (M1BYT) (L) http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk |
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On Tuesday, 7 July 2015 14:31:06 UTC+1, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Saniflow and there is only one thing worse than a Saniflow - that's a Saniflow with long discharge pipes. I'll see your saniflo and raise you a saniflo with long discharge pipes going upwards and running internally in the house. Owain |
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On Tue, 7 Jul 2015 12:27:44 +0100, Mike Tomlinson
wrote: I was thinking it was abuut time for the annual Saniflo warning. There is nothing wrong with a saniflo that cannot be cured by a low yield nuclear weapon. Given the maximum level pumping distance is quoted at 160ft and that "up to" in sales documents usually means "nowhere near" the chances of reliably pumping 150fts worth of mashed muck through a 22mm pipe is probably as close to zero as makes no difference. In the event it wouldn't matter as someone will have dropped into it one of the 7,893 articles which can stop this French abomination from working. Fixing this will entail removing the festering contents of the pan plus the waste pipe and having 150ft of 22mm diameter effluent discharging into the shed. Therefore the best place to install the unsanitary abomination is probably outside and about 75 ft from the house or shed. Installing it in something like the old BT canvas huts linemen put around roadside cabinets so they could work in the damp rather than the wet would be ideal as this would provide through flow ventilation and could easily be incinerated on the spot when the not sani decides it won't flow. This thing was designed by the French for heavens sake. The nation in the world with the least idea of sanitary plumbing. The nation which thinks a piece of wriggly tin on legs makes a really neat street lavatory as you can chat to passers by while using it. The imbecile designer chose a motor with the starting torque of a dyspeptic spider and coupled it to a pair of disks with lots of teeth - so anything with fibres causes it to stall and burn out. Cotton wool is obviously instant death to the machine but even a diet high in dietary fibre can be too much for it. Anyone considering using it should be asked to certify that they have been on a bland fruit and vegetable free diet for at least the previous week. The only drink allowed would be liquid paraffin. Even looking closely at it will make it fail. Owners often take to gluing and screwing the seat lid onto the pan to discourage use. Some embed barbed wire into the seat, others use caltrops or coat the seat with Nitrogen Triiodide. Plumbers won't go near them unless they are paid at least 10 times the going rate and even then its only those with 9 ex-wives and 43 children to pay support for who will descend to this sort of work. Saniflowers have about them a certain miasma. Their vans carry neither markings nor phone numbers. Shunned by their fellows and not allowed in any self respecting hostelry they live a solitary and lonely life their sleep constantly interrupted by nightmares of deluges of minced effluent. Many went to help in Chernobyl and Fukushima Daiichi. The slow lingering death of radiation poisoning being a sweet release from the dreams of malfunctioning saniflos. To check which houses in a street have a saniflo simply record one in operation and play it back in the middle of the street at about 03:00. You will hear strangled screams coming from possessors of saniflos followed by lights coming on, screams and gunshots followed by the bodies of wives and children falsely accused, convicted and executed for using it being cast upon the ground. The witches of Salem trials were models of legal purity compared with the instinctive reaction of a saniflo owner who thinks it has actually been used. For your application more sanitary, more reliable and MUCH cheaper to repair options include :- A bucket. A shovel. A gap behind the bushes. |
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On Wed, 08 Jul 2015 18:22:40 +0100, Peter Parry wrote:
I was thinking it was abuut time for the annual Saniflo warning. There is nothing wrong with a saniflo that cannot be cured by a low yield nuclear weapon. snip You *******. You UTTER *******. My sides ache so badly... |
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On 08/07/2015 18:22, Peter Parry wrote:
On Tue, 7 Jul 2015 12:27:44 +0100, Mike Tomlinson wrote: I was thinking it was abuut time for the annual Saniflo warning. There is nothing wrong with a saniflo that cannot be cured by a low yield nuclear weapon. Given the maximum level pumping distance is quoted at 160ft and that "up to" in sales documents usually means "nowhere near" the chances of reliably pumping 150fts worth of mashed muck through a 22mm pipe is probably as close to zero as makes no difference. In the event it wouldn't matter as someone will have dropped into it one of the 7,893 articles which can stop this French abomination from working. When my father got too old to cope with the stairs we fitted a saniflo in a downstairs room, it was infinitely better than a commode and worked every time. I did use a 32mm pipe and fitted it with a tee with a drain on the bottom before the vertical bit just in case but never had to use it. The shower was also fitted next to it and used a pump to get rid of the water, it used a 15mm flexible pipe. Saniflo do a service contract so you don't have to do the dirty job if you don't want to. |
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On 06/07/2015 13:44, Phil L wrote:
They mean using a saniflo. You'd have to run mains water down there and electricity, although the electricity would presumably be there anyway for your radio equipment. It then requires a waste pipe running back to the drains, this is normally about 25mm snipped With a bit of ingenuity and some valves, you could half-duplex a single pipe to take water in one direction and sewage in the other. Cheers -- Syd |
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On Mon, 6 Jul 2015 12:36:47 +0100, Brian-Gaff wrote:
I don't want to get involved in pipes running down the garden, but I have a feeling the only way is one of those portable jobs that caravans use. Saniflow would need power and water. Rain water would do but you might need quite a big tank to get you through the summer depending on the summer rain fall where you are. Most storeage under or in the shed pump up to the bogs cistern as required. Power I guess you'll have that for heat, light and radio kit. Well insulated the rain water storeage tank and use it as a heat store but rain water won't be clean and keeping it at nice bug growing temperature might not be a "Good Idea". All rather complicated, aside from the possible blockage problems which I suspect only occur when fed material, other than soft toilet paper, that hasn't transited the human digestive tract first. So KISS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composting_toilet -- Cheers Dave. |
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On 08/07/2015 6:22 PM, Peter Parry wrote:
Peter, that piece made my day. Thank you! -- One click voting to change the world. https://secure.avaaz.org/en/ Join Now! Be a part of people power. http://www.theregister.co.uk/ Biting the hand that feeds IT Startpage - The PRIVATE Search Engine! |
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On Tuesday, 14 July 2015 16:44:23 UTC+1, RayL12 wrote:
On 08/07/2015 6:22 PM, Peter Parry wrote: Peter, that piece made my day. Thank you! put it on the wiki NT |
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