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Just witnessed a Yodel delivery van being push started in reverse down a
narrow street with parked cars either side. Truly scary experience. They cannot be serious |
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On 14/04/14 20:17, stuart noble wrote:
Just witnessed a Yodel delivery van being push started in reverse down a narrow street with parked cars either side. Truly scary experience. They cannot be serious What did you expect? A text message with a google map with an icon of a little bloke pushing a van? You need DPD for that! |
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No they appear to be of that age old British tradition, do it on a
shoestring and sod the customer. Probably run by ex royal Mail folk. Brian -- From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active "stuart noble" wrote in message ... Just witnessed a Yodel delivery van being push started in reverse down a narrow street with parked cars either side. Truly scary experience. They cannot be serious |
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On 14/04/2014 21:31, Tim Watts wrote:
On 14/04/14 20:17, stuart noble wrote: Just witnessed a Yodel delivery van being push started in reverse down a narrow street with parked cars either side. Truly scary experience. They cannot be serious What did you expect? A text message with a google map with an icon of a little bloke pushing a van? You need DPD for that! It was a miracle they didn't hit any parked cars, plus they left packaging strewn across the road. Can't believe such an outfit is still free to run wild |
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On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 09:47:55 +0100, stuart noble
wrote: On 14/04/2014 21:31, Tim Watts wrote: On 14/04/14 20:17, stuart noble wrote: Just witnessed a Yodel delivery van being push started in reverse down a narrow street with parked cars either side. Truly scary experience. They cannot be serious What did you expect? A text message with a google map with an icon of a little bloke pushing a van? You need DPD for that! It was a miracle they didn't hit any parked cars, plus they left packaging strewn across the road. Can't believe such an outfit is still free to run wild Isn't it an owner-driver franchise operation, or something? Nick |
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On 15/04/2014 10:06, Nick Odell wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 09:47:55 +0100, stuart noble Isn't it an owner-driver franchise operation, or something? yes. Anyone can be one, you don't even need a van! Our UK-Mail driver (another owner driver outfit) said they pay 50p per successful delivery. that's a lot of drops to cover a days wages plus fuel etc. :¬o Pete@ |
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On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 10:06:23 +0100, Nick Odell
wrote: Isn't it an owner-driver franchise operation, or something? Amazon have just bought about 10% of the company so expect to see more of it. |
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tony sayer wrote:
Seems very poor, so 50 deliveries a day thats I reckon going some and only 25 quid for that and you've got to run your van around too?. Nah.. sod that,.. At least one of the deliverers around here seems to cram the parcels into a fairly small hatchback. Around Christmas they were running several days behind their targets. Tracking would show it was "with courier", though they did have the good grace to apologise when they finally made it. Chris -- Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK Plant amazing Acers. |
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On 15/04/14 20:55, Chris J Dixon wrote:
tony sayer wrote: Seems very poor, so 50 deliveries a day thats I reckon going some and only 25 quid for that and you've got to run your van around too?. Nah.. sod that,.. At least one of the deliverers around here seems to cram the parcels into a fairly small hatchback. Around Christmas they were running several days behind their targets. Tracking would show it was "with courier", though they did have the good grace to apologise when they finally made it. Chris I knew someone who did that as a top up in the evening with his car. He did have one good theory - do the run in the evening when everyone was actually in! |
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On 15/04/2014 21:06, Tim Watts wrote:
He did have one good theory - do the run in the evening when everyone was actually in! One of our suppliers uses them and we're regularly seeing deliveries being made and completed on Saturday same theory, everyone is at home first thing Saturday morning and like wise someone is going to be there in the evening. No failed deliveries and customer doesn't have to wait in all day.. |
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In article , Tim Watts
scribeth thus On 15/04/14 20:55, Chris J Dixon wrote: tony sayer wrote: Seems very poor, so 50 deliveries a day thats I reckon going some and only 25 quid for that and you've got to run your van around too?. Nah.. sod that,.. At least one of the deliverers around here seems to cram the parcels into a fairly small hatchback. Around Christmas they were running several days behind their targets. Tracking would show it was "with courier", though they did have the good grace to apologise when they finally made it. Chris I knew someone who did that as a top up in the evening with his car. He did have one good theory - do the run in the evening when everyone was actually in! Now thats a very good idea as a lot of the population will be out in the day. In the last Hermes delivery we had we were given a delivery over a time span of Two weeks!. As it happened he turned up on the first day but he said like this a lot of people didn't know when he was coming and he didn't have that many successful deliveries in a week!... -- Tony Sayer |
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On Wednesday, 16 April 2014 10:26:45 UTC+1, www.GymRatZ.co.uk wrote:
On 15/04/2014 21:06, Tim Watts wrote: He did have one good theory - do the run in the evening when everyone was actually in! One of our suppliers uses them and we're regularly seeing deliveries being made and completed on Saturday same theory, everyone is at home first thing Saturday morning and like wise someone is going to be there No failed deliveries and customer doesn't have to wait in all day.. For about 10 years+ I've been wondering why most if not all deliveries can't be made after say 7pm (rush hour). Why can't argos and the like deliver up to say 10pm or midnight and on sundays. Of course some do but charge extra why ? |
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On 16/04/2014 11:28, whisky-dave wrote:
For about 10 years+ I've been wondering why most if not all deliveries can't be made after say 7pm (rush hour). Why can't argos and the like deliver up to say 10pm or midnight and on sundays. Of course some do but charge extra why ? Because generally, the staff want to be at home in the evenings, just as you do, spending time with their family and watching East Enders or Corrie. Therefore, most of them want to be paid extra for working unsociable hours, and the unions enforce it. Van drivers *are*, in spite of all the evidence, human too. -- Tciao for Now! John. |
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In message , John Williamson
writes On 16/04/2014 11:28, whisky-dave wrote: For about 10 years+ I've been wondering why most if not all deliveries can't be made after say 7pm (rush hour). Why can't argos and the like deliver up to say 10pm or midnight and on sundays. Of course some do but charge extra why ? Because generally, the staff want to be at home in the evenings, just as you do, spending time with their family and watching East Enders or Corrie. Therefore, most of them want to be paid extra for working unsociable hours, and the unions enforce it. Van drivers *are*, in spite of all the evidence, human too. Also I suspect that lots of the couriers parcels are to businesses, most of whom will only be open during normal business hours. So they would have to have double runs. but as online shopping continues to grow I guess we will see services that suit domestic customers continue to develop. -- Chris French |
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On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 23:45:31 +0100, chris French
wrote: but as online shopping continues to grow I guess we will see services that suit domestic customers continue to develop. I had a Sunday delivery from Amazon, in their own white van, a couple of weeks ago. No extra charge either. |
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On Thursday, 17 April 2014 12:57:36 UTC+1, Jethro_uk wrote:
I still think there's an opening for Amazon (for example) to team up with Sainsburys/Tescos/Waitrose (!) and combine online grocery deliveries (because people are always in for those) with delivery of your Amazon order. We've got an Amazon locker in our local Co-op so that amounts to almost the same thing, assuming the parcel isn't too large anyway. |
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On Wednesday, 16 April 2014 15:48:50 UTC+1, John Williamson wrote:
On 16/04/2014 11:28, whisky-dave wrote: For about 10 years+ I've been wondering why most if not all deliveries can't be made after say 7pm (rush hour). Why can't argos and the like deliver up to say 10pm or midnight and on sundays. Of course some do but charge extra why ? Because generally, the staff want to be at home in the evenings, just as you do, spending time with their family and watching East Enders or Corrie. Therefore, most of them want to be paid extra for working unsociable hours, and the unions enforce it. Like nurses and the police and DJs in night clubs and doormen and night bus drivers and those that work in power stations and those that work on the railways, cleaners, pub, resturant, cinemas, even transport workers. Van drivers *are*, in spite of all the evidence, human too. And you don't think these van drivers could do their job quicker or more effintly at night than during rush hour if you gave them the choice. If you work out how much per drop and then per unit time you could probbaley do the job in half the time. NOT everyone wants to work 9-5 |
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On Thursday, 17 April 2014 12:57:36 UTC+1, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 23:45:31 +0100, chris French wrote: In message , John Williamson writes On 16/04/2014 11:28, whisky-dave wrote: For about 10 years+ I've been wondering why most if not all deliveries can't be made after say 7pm (rush hour). Why can't argos and the like deliver up to say 10pm or midnight and on sundays. Of course some do but charge extra why ? Because generally, the staff want to be at home in the evenings, just as you do, spending time with their family and watching East Enders or Corrie. Therefore, most of them want to be paid extra for working unsociable hours, and the unions enforce it. Van drivers *are*, in spite of all the evidence, human too. Also I suspect that lots of the couriers parcels are to businesses, most of whom will only be open during normal business hours. So they would have to have double runs. but as online shopping continues to grow I guess we will see services that suit domestic customers continue to develop. I still think there's an opening for Amazon (for example) to team up with Sainsburys/Tescos/Waitrose (!) and combine online grocery deliveries (because people are always in for those) with delivery of your Amazon order. They do the co-op in mile end road has some storage lockers with digitsal codes not to sure how it works though. |
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On Thursday, 17 April 2014 15:17:25 UTC+1, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Thu, 17 Apr 2014 06:59:45 -0700, matthelliwell wrote: On Thursday, 17 April 2014 12:57:36 UTC+1, Jethro_uk wrote: I still think there's an opening for Amazon (for example) to team up with Sainsburys/Tescos/Waitrose (!) and combine online grocery deliveries (because people are always in for those) with delivery of your Amazon order. We've got an Amazon locker in our local Co-op so that amounts to almost the same thing, assuming the parcel isn't too large anyway. Well, if you are going to shop there *anyway*. it's good way of getting you in their shop too, a bit like buying stamps in the post office who'll try to sell you stuff while you're there. |
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On 17/04/2014 15:42, whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 16 April 2014 15:48:50 UTC+1, John Williamson wrote: On 16/04/2014 11:28, whisky-dave wrote: For about 10 years+ I've been wondering why most if not all deliveries can't be made after say 7pm (rush hour). Why can't argos and the like deliver up to say 10pm or midnight and on sundays. Of course some do but charge extra why ? Because generally, the staff want to be at home in the evenings, just as you do, spending time with their family and watching East Enders or Corrie. Therefore, most of them want to be paid extra for working unsociable hours, and the unions enforce it. Like nurses and the police and DJs in night clubs and doormen and night bus drivers and those that work in power stations and those that work on the railways, cleaners, pub, resturant, cinemas, even transport workers. Most of whom get unsociable hours payments if they work after about 20:00 or before 06:00. I know that when I was working on the railway, night shift attracted more pay than day shifts, and it's still the same on most of the bus companies. Van drivers *are*, in spite of all the evidence, human too. And you don't think these van drivers could do their job quicker or more effintly at night than during rush hour if you gave them the choice. If you work out how much per drop and then per unit time you could probbaley do the job in half the time. NOT everyone wants to work 9-5 Possibly, but if so, do you not think the companies would already have done the sums? -- Tciao for Now! John. |
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In article , John Williamson
wrote: On 17/04/2014 15:42, whisky-dave wrote: On Wednesday, 16 April 2014 15:48:50 UTC+1, John Williamson wrote: On 16/04/2014 11:28, whisky-dave wrote: For about 10 years+ I've been wondering why most if not all deliveries can't be made after say 7pm (rush hour). Why can't argos and the like deliver up to say 10pm or midnight and on sundays. Of course some do but charge extra why ? Because generally, the staff want to be at home in the evenings, just as you do, spending time with their family and watching East Enders or Corrie. Therefore, most of them want to be paid extra for working unsociable hours, and the unions enforce it. Like nurses and the police and DJs in night clubs and doormen and night bus drivers and those that work in power stations and those that work on the railways, cleaners, pub, resturant, cinemas, even transport workers. Most of whom get unsociable hours payments if they work after about 20:00 or before 06:00. I know that when I was working on the railway, night shift attracted more pay than day shifts, and it's still the same on most of the bus companies. Van drivers *are*, in spite of all the evidence, human too. And you don't think these van drivers could do their job quicker or more effintly at night than during rush hour if you gave them the choice. If you work out how much per drop and then per unit time you could probbaley do the job in half the time. NOT everyone wants to work 9-5 Possibly, but if so, do you not think the companies would already have done the sums? It is, of course, much easier to see house names or numbers in daylight.. -- From KT24 Using a RISC OS computer running v5.18 |
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On Thu, 17 Apr 2014 18:35:28 +0100, charles
wrote: In article , John Williamson wrote: On 17/04/2014 15:42, whisky-dave wrote: On Wednesday, 16 April 2014 15:48:50 UTC+1, John Williamson wrote: On 16/04/2014 11:28, whisky-dave wrote: For about 10 years+ I've been wondering why most if not all deliveries can't be made after say 7pm (rush hour). Why can't argos and the like deliver up to say 10pm or midnight and on sundays. Of course some do but charge extra why ? Because generally, the staff want to be at home in the evenings, just as you do, spending time with their family and watching East Enders or Corrie. Therefore, most of them want to be paid extra for working unsociable hours, and the unions enforce it. Like nurses and the police and DJs in night clubs and doormen and night bus drivers and those that work in power stations and those that work on the railways, cleaners, pub, resturant, cinemas, even transport workers. Most of whom get unsociable hours payments if they work after about 20:00 or before 06:00. I know that when I was working on the railway, night shift attracted more pay than day shifts, and it's still the same on most of the bus companies. Van drivers *are*, in spite of all the evidence, human too. And you don't think these van drivers could do their job quicker or more effintly at night than during rush hour if you gave them the choice. If you work out how much per drop and then per unit time you could probbaley do the job in half the time. NOT everyone wants to work 9-5 Possibly, but if so, do you not think the companies would already have done the sums? It is, of course, much easier to see house names or numbers in daylight.. Unless Bill Wright's started a new trend. :-) -- Regards, J B Good |
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On Thu, 17 Apr 2014 07:42:28 -0700 (PDT), whisky-dave
wrote: On Wednesday, 16 April 2014 15:48:50 UTC+1, John Williamson wrote: On 16/04/2014 11:28, whisky-dave wrote: For about 10 years+ I've been wondering why most if not all deliveries can't be made after say 7pm (rush hour). Why can't argos and the like deliver up to say 10pm or midnight and on sundays. Of course some do but charge extra why ? Van drivers *are*, in spite of all the evidence, human too. And you don't think these van drivers could do their job quicker or more effintly at night than during rush hour if you gave them the choice. If you work out how much per drop and then per unit time you could probbaley do the job in half the time. NOT everyone wants to work 9-5 If it was that easy then somebody would be doing it. A lot of residential streets that may just have a space in the day to position a van in without too long a walk to the drop off will be absolutely full when all the residents are home. So the delivery driver will just block the road and annoy people. Then there is the noise , people who may be going to sleep from 10pm ish will just love the banging of van doors at midnight or the racket made as the courier sorts through the packages in the van. The Sainsburys chap who delivers around here at about 8.30pm is bad enough,a proper door slammer. And finding an address in the dark can be a right pain, Not everybody has a house number or name that seen from a vehicle in the dark, Creeping along shining a torch or side mounted lamp up paths and driveways is not going to let you do the job in half the time,it will take longer added to which people will not be able to see who is knocking on their door late at night,many would (should in some cases) ask for ID through a chained part open door.A lot will not answer at all. G.Harman |
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On 15/04/2014 21:06, Tim Watts wrote:
I knew someone who did that as a top up in the evening with his car. He did have one good theory - do the run in the evening when everyone was actually in! The local driver for that company does that - I get deliveries 7-8pm One of the other coriers has a different arrangement. If they call during the day and you are not in the package is left with a local agent who then uses his own car to deliver in the evenings. -- mailto:news{at}admac(dot}myzen{dot}co{dot}uk |
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