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Andrew Mawson November 17th 03 04:07 PM

Replacement for Polystyrene Ceiling Tiles ?
 
I am having to remove a perfectly good ceiling of polystyrene ceiling tiles
in a flat as they are not allowed nowadays for let properties.

Presumably the previous owner put them up to cover a less than perfect
ceiling (though maybe not as they are of a nice sculpted design and
actually don't look too bad)

Taking them down will at the least make a mess where the glue is - so is
there a modern replacement tile that could be stuck up where they were but
is not inflamable ?

Andrew Mawson



Andrew Gabriel November 17th 03 04:49 PM

Replacement for Polystyrene Ceiling Tiles ?
 
In article ,
"Andrew Mawson" writes:
I am having to remove a perfectly good ceiling of polystyrene ceiling tiles
in a flat as they are not allowed nowadays for let properties.

Presumably the previous owner put them up to cover a less than perfect
ceiling (though maybe not as they are of a nice sculpted design and
actually don't look too bad)

Taking them down will at the least make a mess where the glue is - so is
there a modern replacement tile that could be stuck up where they were but
is not inflamable ?


What about having it reskimmed?

I put up polystyrene ceiling tiles in a room in my parents' house in
early 1970's. This was done because the room was cold, not because of
any damage to ceiling. Room was part of a single floor extension and
the only insulation was foil backed plasterboard, and the outer
strawboard surface. When my parents had it redecorated, the decorator
tried taking a tile down, but as they had been put up properly by me
(fully glued, not just 4 dabs), he said it would be cheaper to take
the ceiling down, which also enabled proper insulation to be put in
above it. In a DIY situation where time isn't money, you might be
able to clean up the existing ceiling enough to just have it reskimmed.

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Andrew Gabriel

Andrew Mawson November 17th 03 08:23 PM

Replacement for Polystyrene Ceiling Tiles ?
 

"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Andrew Mawson" writes:
I am having to remove a perfectly good ceiling of polystyrene ceiling

tiles
in a flat as they are not allowed nowadays for let properties.

Presumably the previous owner put them up to cover a less than perfect
ceiling (though maybe not as they are of a nice sculpted design and
actually don't look too bad)

Taking them down will at the least make a mess where the glue is - so is
there a modern replacement tile that could be stuck up where they were

but
is not inflamable ?


What about having it reskimmed?

I put up polystyrene ceiling tiles in a room in my parents' house in
early 1970's. This was done because the room was cold, not because of
any damage to ceiling. Room was part of a single floor extension and
the only insulation was foil backed plasterboard, and the outer
strawboard surface. When my parents had it redecorated, the decorator
tried taking a tile down, but as they had been put up properly by me
(fully glued, not just 4 dabs), he said it would be cheaper to take
the ceiling down, which also enabled proper insulation to be put in
above it. In a DIY situation where time isn't money, you might be
able to clean up the existing ceiling enough to just have it reskimmed.

--
Andrew Gabriel


Andrew (G),

No that's not an option really on cost grounds - it'll probably end up
having polyfilla making good the damage and a coat of paint and not look
anything like as good as it does now, but in the very unlikely event of a
fire the dear tenents will at least not be showered with molten polystyrene.

Andrew Mawson



Chris J Dixon November 17th 03 08:34 PM

Replacement for Polystyrene Ceiling Tiles ?
 
Andrew Mawson wrote:

I am having to remove a perfectly good ceiling of polystyrene ceiling tiles
in a flat as they are not allowed nowadays for let properties.

Presumably the previous owner put them up to cover a less than perfect
ceiling (though maybe not as they are of a nice sculpted design and
actually don't look too bad)

Taking them down will at the least make a mess where the glue is - so is
there a modern replacement tile that could be stuck up where they were but
is not inflamable ?

I did my kitchen, 4 years ago, and the tiles and adhesive cost
around GBP150 for about 10 square metres. I guess it could have
been cheaper to have it re-plastered, it would have been the only
option if I hadn't wanted any tiles at all.

If I hadn't done a similar job some years ago, I would have been
discouraged by stockists who told me that no suitable products
were available. They were, after much searching..

Chris
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Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK


Have dancing shoes, will ceilidh.

Michael Mcneil November 18th 03 12:55 AM

Replacement for Polystyrene Ceiling Tiles ?
 
"Andrew Mawson" wrote in message

No that's not an option really on cost grounds - it'll probably end up
having polyfilla making good the damage and a coat of paint and not look
anything like as good as it does now, but in the very unlikely event of a
fire the dear tenents will at least not be showered with molten polystyrene.

You sound like the kind of moron who is likely to supply their tennants
with dangerous heating equiptment too. I hope the ones you get in next
have an inspector look at any gas equiptment you have supplied and make
you pay for substandard fittings being upgraded.



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Michael Mcneil November 18th 03 01:01 AM

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"Michael Mcneil" wrote in message
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I hope the ones you get in next
have an inspector look at any gas equiptment you have supplied and make
you pay for substandard fittings being upgraded.

(If there is a need that is.)

I'm sorry that sounded sharper than I intended but a polystyrene fire is
a nasty way to die. It's been illegal for years and there has been
plenty of info about that sort of thing. Get a look at flash over fires
in safety videos and see if you feel the same way about it afterwards.



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Andrew Mawson November 18th 03 08:23 AM

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"Michael Mcneil" wrote in message
news:7e13623df0e83f51a6a3d4c3a58ec5e3.45219@mygate .mailgate.org...
"Andrew Mawson" wrote in message

No that's not an option really on cost grounds - it'll probably end up
having polyfilla making good the damage and a coat of paint and not look
anything like as good as it does now, but in the very unlikely event of

a
fire the dear tenents will at least not be showered with molten

polystyrene.
You sound like the kind of moron who is likely to supply their tennants
with dangerous heating equiptment too. I hope the ones you get in next
have an inspector look at any gas equiptment you have supplied and make
you pay for substandard fittings being upgraded.



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Michael,

That seems to me a totally unwarranted rudeness in the circumstances. The
reskimming of a ceiling in a room whose decorations, carpets etc are
otherwise in excellent condition is certainly not practical on ecconomic
grounds, whereas pollyfill & paint can be done (with care).

What connection this has with gas appliances I'm not sure however for your
information I have myself passed the ACOPS tests for CORGI registration but
choose to have all my premises certified as required by an independant Corgi
organisation to ensure that there is no conflict of interest where safety is
concerned.

Andrew Mawson



Andrew Mawson November 18th 03 08:26 AM

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"Michael Mcneil" wrote in message
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"Michael Mcneil" wrote in message
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I hope the ones you get in next
have an inspector look at any gas equiptment you have supplied and make
you pay for substandard fittings being upgraded.

(If there is a need that is.)

I'm sorry that sounded sharper than I intended but a polystyrene fire is
a nasty way to die. It's been illegal for years and there has been
plenty of info about that sort of thing. Get a look at flash over fires
in safety videos and see if you feel the same way about it afterwards.



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Michael,

At no stage have I questioned the need to remove the polystyrene tiles - my
posting was to find if there were alternatives to solve the expected
decorating problem once they were removed.

And yes, I did take offence at your rude reply.

Andrew Mawson



Michael Mcneil November 18th 03 09:09 AM

Replacement for Polystyrene Ceiling Tiles ?
 
"Andrew Mawson" wrote in message

At no stage have I questioned the need to remove the polystyrene tiles - my
posting was to find if there were alternatives to solve the expected
decorating problem once they were removed.

And yes, I did take offence at your rude reply.

No harm done then. Try artexing the ceilings. Put it on with a thin pile
paint roller if the lumps are not too bad, thick pile if they are. It
will take an hour or so per room.



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Andrew November 18th 03 02:49 PM

Replacement for Polystyrene Ceiling Tiles ?
 
"Michael Mcneil" wrote in message news:7e13623df0e83f51a6a3d4c3a58ec5e3.45219@mygat e.mailgate.org...
"Andrew Mawson" wrote in message

No that's not an option really on cost grounds - it'll probably end up
having polyfilla making good the damage and a coat of paint and not look
anything like as good as it does now, but in the very unlikely event of a
fire the dear tenents will at least not be showered with molten polystyrene.

You sound like the kind of moron who is likely to supply their tennants
with dangerous heating equiptment too. I hope the ones you get in next
have an inspector look at any gas equiptment you have supplied and make
you pay for substandard fittings being upgraded.


Read the OP! He did say he's removing the tiles, so why such a rude response?

John Armstrong November 19th 03 10:29 PM

Replacement for Polystyrene Ceiling Tiles ?
 
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:23:52 +0000 (UTC), Andrew Mawson wrote:


Andrew (G),

No that's not an option really on cost grounds - it'll probably end up
having polyfilla making good the damage and a coat of paint and not look
anything like as good as it does now, but in the very unlikely event of a
fire the dear tenents will at least not be showered with molten polystyrene.


Blown vinyl paper before the paint covers a multitude of lumps and bumps.

Mike Barnard November 20th 03 04:13 PM

Replacement for Polystyrene Ceiling Tiles ?
 
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:23:52 +0000 (UTC), "Andrew Mawson"
wrote:

anything like as good as it does now, but in the very unlikely event of a
fire the dear tenents will at least not be showered with molten polystyrene.


OH YES THEY WILL!

I've been a firefighter for 22 years. These tiles drip molten plastic
all over the shop and are lethal. Also they spread the fire very
quickly. Get rid, now.


Mike Barnard November 20th 03 04:20 PM

Replacement for Polystyrene Ceiling Tiles ?
 
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:13:52 +0000, Mike Barnard
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:23:52 +0000 (UTC), "Andrew Mawson"
wrote:

anything like as good as it does now, but in the very unlikely event of a
fire the dear tenents will at least not be showered with molten polystyrene.


OH YES THEY WILL!

I've been a firefighter for 22 years. These tiles drip molten plastic
all over the shop and are lethal. Also they spread the fire very
quickly. Get rid, now.


Damn, just read the rest of the thread. I thought you were just
covering the tiles, not removing. Soz.



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