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AnthonyL August 30th 13 10:00 AM

Fan speed
 
I'd like to know/measure the speed (rpm) of a small electric 3 blade
fan. Any easy ideas?

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AnthonyL

sm_jamieson August 30th 13 10:09 AM

Fan speed
 
On Friday, August 30, 2013 10:00:54 AM UTC+1, AnthonyL wrote:
I'd like to know/measure the speed (rpm) of a small electric 3 blade

fan. Any easy ideas?



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AnthonyL


Have you got a multimeter that measures AC frequency ?
If so, you might be able to cobble together something with a battery, photocell and a light source.
Or you could rig it so it just clips a piece of card or something and compare by ear the pitch with comparison tones from the internet.
Simon.

F Murtz August 30th 13 10:13 AM

Fan speed
 
AnthonyL wrote:
I'd like to know/measure the speed (rpm) of a small electric 3 blade
fan. Any easy ideas?

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Dave Plowman (News) August 30th 13 11:22 AM

Fan speed
 
In article ,
AnthonyL wrote:
I'd like to know/measure the speed (rpm) of a small electric 3 blade
fan. Any easy ideas?


Is it mains or battery?

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AnthonyL August 30th 13 11:37 AM

Fan speed
 
On Fri, 30 Aug 2013 11:22:36 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
AnthonyL wrote:
I'd like to know/measure the speed (rpm) of a small electric 3 blade
fan. Any easy ideas?


Is it mains or battery?

Sorry, should have said it was standard mains. Two speed.


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AnthonyL

John Williamson August 30th 13 12:01 PM

Fan speed
 
AnthonyL wrote:
On Fri, 30 Aug 2013 11:22:36 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
AnthonyL wrote:
I'd like to know/measure the speed (rpm) of a small electric 3 blade
fan. Any easy ideas?

Is it mains or battery?

Sorry, should have said it was standard mains. Two speed.


If the motor doesn't have any brushes, and there's no gears it'll be
3000rpm or slightly below. Some of them are 1500rpm, and they have 4
pole motors.,

Otherwise, the model aircraft bods use non-contact tachometers, and for
a one-off measurement, you might be able to borrow one from a local
model shop.

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Brian Gaff August 30th 13 12:07 PM

Fan speed
 
Light beam interruption and divide by three?

Brian

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"AnthonyL" wrote in message
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I'd like to know/measure the speed (rpm) of a small electric 3 blade
fan. Any easy ideas?

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Bill Wright[_2_] August 30th 13 01:49 PM

Fan speed
 
AnthonyL wrote:
I'd like to know/measure the speed (rpm) of a small electric 3 blade
fan. Any easy ideas?

Put a thin white line on one blade. Photograph the fan whilst it rotates
at various shutter speeds. Calculate the RPM from the angular movement
of the line at each shutter speed. Average the result.

Bill

Dave Liquorice[_2_] August 30th 13 04:57 PM

Fan speed
 
On Fri, 30 Aug 2013 13:49:35 +0100, Bill Wright wrote:

Put a thin white line on one blade. Photograph the fan whilst it rotates
at various shutter speeds. Calculate the RPM from the angular movement
of the line at each shutter speed. Average the result.


From the motion blur, I like that. Don't use flash though. B-)

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Lee August 30th 13 05:05 PM

Fan speed
 
On 30/08/2013 13:49, Bill Wright wrote:
AnthonyL wrote:
I'd like to know/measure the speed (rpm) of a small electric 3 blade
fan. Any easy ideas?

Put a thin white line on one blade. Photograph the fan whilst it rotates
at various shutter speeds. Calculate the RPM from the angular movement
of the line at each shutter speed. Average the result.

Bill


I had a similar thought and, convinced someone must have written an app
to do it, went looking in both the Android and iOS market. Was somewhat
surprised no one has written one yet. Unless the camera hardware isn't
up to it ;)

My programming skills certainly aren't! ;)

Lee

harryagain[_2_] August 30th 13 06:34 PM

Fan speed
 

"AnthonyL" wrote in message
...
I'd like to know/measure the speed (rpm) of a small electric 3 blade
fan. Any easy ideas?

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AnthonyL



What sort of motor is it?
Very small motors are difficult to measure as the measuring device can
disturb it.



Bill Wright[_2_] August 30th 13 07:51 PM

Fan speed
 
Lee wrote:
On 30/08/2013 13:49, Bill Wright wrote:
AnthonyL wrote:
I'd like to know/measure the speed (rpm) of a small electric 3 blade
fan. Any easy ideas?

Put a thin white line on one blade. Photograph the fan whilst it rotates
at various shutter speeds. Calculate the RPM from the angular movement
of the line at each shutter speed. Average the result.

Bill


I had a similar thought and, convinced someone must have written an app
to do it, went looking in both the Android and iOS market. Was somewhat
surprised no one has written one yet. Unless the camera hardware isn't
up to it ;)

My programming skills certainly aren't! ;)

Lee

On a related topic a guy I knew in the 60s who repaired cameras used to
adjust rollerblind shutters by photographing a TV screen and counting
the TV lines on the picture.

Who remembers the white square in the corner of the neg frame caused by
the Zenit mirror not returning quickly enough?

Bill

AnthonyL August 31st 13 11:15 AM

Fan speed
 
On Fri, 30 Aug 2013 16:57:21 +0100 (BST), "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:

On Fri, 30 Aug 2013 13:49:35 +0100, Bill Wright wrote:

Put a thin white line on one blade. Photograph the fan whilst it rotates
at various shutter speeds. Calculate the RPM from the angular movement
of the line at each shutter speed. Average the result.


From the motion blur, I like that. Don't use flash though. B-)


It works to a point but the beginning and the end of the blur are hard
to determine. I get around 3,400 rpm at low speed which could well be
3,000 rpm. I like the idea of having a laser tacho (not sure why, I
just like the idea) as suggested by F Murtz so I've ordered one from
amazon.uk at less than a tenner.



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AnthonyL

Andrew Gabriel August 31st 13 02:00 PM

Fan speed
 
In article ,
John Williamson writes:
AnthonyL wrote:
On Fri, 30 Aug 2013 11:22:36 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
AnthonyL wrote:
I'd like to know/measure the speed (rpm) of a small electric 3 blade
fan. Any easy ideas?
Is it mains or battery?

Sorry, should have said it was standard mains. Two speed.


If the motor doesn't have any brushes, and there's no gears it'll be
3000rpm or slightly below. Some of them are 1500rpm, and they have 4
pole motors.,


That's assuming it's synchronous or near synchronous.
Lots of induction motors aren't, e.g. the shaded pole motors
very often used for driving mains fans (they couldn't be speed
switchable if they were synchronous).

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AnthonyL September 1st 13 11:31 AM

Fan speed
 
On Sat, 31 Aug 2013 10:15:08 GMT, lid (AnthonyL)
wrote:


It works to a point but the beginning and the end of the blur are hard
to determine. I get around 3,400 rpm at low speed which could well be
3,000 rpm. I like the idea of having a laser tacho (not sure why, I
just like the idea) as suggested by F Murtz so I've ordered one from
amazon.uk at less than a tenner.


.... but not fully concentrating I've just realised it is coming from
China!

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AnthonyL


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