Mine has to be taking the waste pipe off the sink and cleaning it under
running water in the same sink without a plug in. Every single time.

On Tue, 14 May 2013 20:34:43 +0100, "Mentalguy2k8"
wrote:

Mine has to be taking the waste pipe off the sink and cleaning it under
running water in the same sink without a plug in. Every single time.


Yesterday I needed an emergency shoe shine. Didn't have my glasses on.
guess which one I used?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/g3zvt/8...ream/lightbox/

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"Mentalguy2k8" wrote in message
...
Mine has to be taking the waste pipe off the sink and cleaning it under
running water in the same sink without a plug in. Every single time.

I have a memorable DIY 'near miss'. I was sawing through my mum and dad's
kitchen units, with a view to making it easier to rip them out. As I was
getting near the floor, and going through the trim at the bottom, I thought
I'd take a look behind, to see if anything was in the way. There, right
under the blade was the plastic mains water feed pipe, coming into the
kitchen some two feet away from the wall. Am I ever glad I stopped at that
moment.

On 14/05/13 20:34, Mentalguy2k8 wrote:
Mine has to be taking the waste pipe off the sink and cleaning it
under running water in the same sink without a plug in. Every single
time.
1/. leaving a full bottle of woodworking glue standing on the studwork
when I covered it in plasterboard.

2/. Turning off the cold mains supply, to work on the hot side of a
sealed pressurised hot water system and not telling my wife not to flush
the loo..and open the taps..oh dear air enters via unclosed ballcock
valve, and cold taps and tank of hot water in roof drains ALL OVER the
bathroom and drips into sitting room as I rush to attic to close gate
valve ...

3/. It probably doesn't count as DIY, but the classic case of building
two left wings on a model aeroplane.

4/. Believing that when SWMBO says "I want it there" she has actually
thought about it, and means it...

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On Tuesday 14 May 2013 21:12 Dis Manibus wrote in uk.d-i-y:

"Mentalguy2k8" wrote in message
...
Mine has to be taking the waste pipe off the sink and cleaning it under
running water in the same sink without a plug in. Every single time.

I have a memorable DIY 'near miss'. I was sawing through my mum and dad's
kitchen units, with a view to making it easier to rip them out. As I was
getting near the floor, and going through the trim at the bottom, I
thought I'd take a look behind, to see if anything was in the way. There,
right under the blade was the plastic mains water feed pipe, coming into
the kitchen some two feet away from the wall. Am I ever glad I stopped at
that moment.

Almost a Frank Spencer moment

Mine was:

Old car, door lock screwdrivered. Had MIG - so decided to weld a plate in.

Forgot I had the window open, so the weld spatter hot it full force so that
when wound up, a 4inch2 area was like a thimble's surface.

Went to scrappy to get new glass turning a job that was the cost of 2 cans
of spray paint (filler-primer and top coat) into a rather more expensive
excercise.

Still, you could not see the repair after I had resprayed the whole door

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On 14/05/2013 20:34, Mentalguy2k8 wrote:
Mine has to be taking the waste pipe off the sink and cleaning it under
running water in the same sink without a plug in. Every single time.

Putting a nail through a gas pipe...?


....on a bank holiday

--
David

On 14/05/2013 21:11, Graham. wrote:
On Tue, 14 May 2013 20:34:43 +0100, "Mentalguy2k8"
wrote:

Mine has to be taking the waste pipe off the sink and cleaning it under
running water in the same sink without a plug in. Every single time.


Yesterday I needed an emergency shoe shine. Didn't have my glasses on.
guess which one I used?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/g3zvt/8...ream/lightbox/

As a teenager, when aerosol deodorants fist became popular, I sprayed my
mums hair lacquer under my arms in error. I actually did it on two
mornings before I noticed.

It certainly stops you sweating :-)


--
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On 14/05/2013 20:34, Mentalguy2k8 wrote:
Mine has to be taking the waste pipe off the sink and cleaning it under
running water in the same sink without a plug in. Every single time.

Can't call yourself a DIY plumber until you have done that. BTDTGTTS.

Sawing through the top of your workmate.

Drilling into a cable you installed yesterday.

And Desmonds - installing a steel spray arch in a car wash - with it
between his van & the door....
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In article , Mentalguy2k8
writes
Mine has to be taking the waste pipe off the sink and cleaning it under
running water in the same sink without a plug in. Every single time.

Mentioning this group in another, resulting in a well known poster there
thinking it was acceptable to include this group in their
socio-political ramblings.
--
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it's a ba-na-na . . . .

"Mentalguy2k8" wrote in message
...
Mine has to be taking the waste pipe off the sink and cleaning it under
running water in the same sink without a plug in. Every single time.

1 of our 2 lounge lights stopped working (2 ceiling fans with 3 lamps each)
both on a double dimmer. Friggin dimmers I thought so went and bought a new
one, fitted it, one light still wouldn't work. Remember how the fans have
pull-cords? We NEVER use them for the lights but wifey had pulled the
friggin thing

On 14/05/2013 21:11, Graham. wrote:
On Tue, 14 May 2013 20:34:43 +0100, "Mentalguy2k8"
wrote:

Mine has to be taking the waste pipe off the sink and cleaning it under
running water in the same sink without a plug in. Every single time.


Yesterday I needed an emergency shoe shine. Didn't have my glasses on.
guess which one I used?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/g3zvt/8...ream/lightbox/

Should have used real shoe polish!

--
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On 14/05/2013 21:22, Lobster wrote:
On 14/05/2013 20:34, Mentalguy2k8 wrote:
Mine has to be taking the waste pipe off the sink and cleaning it under
running water in the same sink without a plug in. Every single time.

Putting a nail through a gas pipe...?


...on a bank holiday

10pm Sunday night in my case ;-)



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On Tue, 14 May 2013 22:32:10 +0100, fred wrote:

In article , Mentalguy2k8
writes
Mine has to be taking the waste pipe off the sink and cleaning it under
running water in the same sink without a plug in. Every single time.

Mentioning this group in another, resulting in a well known poster there
thinking it was acceptable to include this group in their
socio-political ramblings.

Mentioning lightning conductors in this group and getting the w_tom loony
again.



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On Tue, 14 May 2013 22:37:58 +0100, polygonum
wrote:

On 14/05/2013 21:11, Graham. wrote:
On Tue, 14 May 2013 20:34:43 +0100, "Mentalguy2k8"
wrote:

Mine has to be taking the waste pipe off the sink and cleaning it under
running water in the same sink without a plug in. Every single time.


Yesterday I needed an emergency shoe shine. Didn't have my glasses on.
guess which one I used?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/g3zvt/8...ream/lightbox/

Should have used real shoe polish!

I got a tin in Tesco today to cover up the area I bleached!

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%Profound_observation%

On Tue, 14 May 2013 20:34:43 +0100, "Mentalguy2k8"
wrote:

Mine has to be taking the waste pipe off the sink and cleaning it under
running water in the same sink without a plug in. Every single time.

Draining the blocked sink into a bucket by removing the pipe from the
underneath of the sink and then happily standing up and emptying the
bucket into the sink and thinking NOOOOOOoooo as the water washed over
my feet.

On Tue, 14 May 2013 22:32:10 +0100, fred wrote:

In article , Mentalguy2k8
writes
Mine has to be taking the waste pipe off the sink and cleaning it under
running water in the same sink without a plug in. Every single time.

Mentioning this group in another, resulting in a well known poster there
thinking it was acceptable to include this group in their
socio-political ramblings.

uk.rec.sheds got a mention in my daughters Linguistics dissertation.
She still graduated with a first.

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%Profound_observation%

On Tue, 14 May 2013 22:36:41 +0100, "bm" wrote:


"Mentalguy2k8" wrote in message
...
Mine has to be taking the waste pipe off the sink and cleaning it under
running water in the same sink without a plug in. Every single time.

1 of our 2 lounge lights stopped working (2 ceiling fans with 3 lamps each)
both on a double dimmer. Friggin dimmers I thought so went and bought a new
one, fitted it, one light still wouldn't work. Remember how the fans have
pull-cords? We NEVER use them for the lights but wifey had pulled the
friggin thing


Finding switches or other features in your car as you clean it prior
to selling it.

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%Profound_observation%

On 14/05/13 23:47, Ericp wrote:
On Tue, 14 May 2013 20:34:43 +0100, "Mentalguy2k8"
wrote:

Mine has to be taking the waste pipe off the sink and cleaning it under
running water in the same sink without a plug in. Every single time.
Draining the blocked sink into a bucket by removing the pipe from the
underneath of the sink and then happily standing up and emptying the
bucket into the sink and thinking NOOOOOOoooo as the water washed over
my feet.
+1 BTDTGTTS

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On Tue, 14 May 2013 23:55:14 +0100, Graham. wrote:

On Tue, 14 May 2013 22:36:41 +0100, "bm" wrote:


"Mentalguy2k8" wrote in message
...
Mine has to be taking the waste pipe off the sink and cleaning it
under running water in the same sink without a plug in. Every single
time.

1 of our 2 lounge lights stopped working (2 ceiling fans with 3 lamps
each)
both on a double dimmer. Friggin dimmers I thought so went and bought a
new one, fitted it, one light still wouldn't work. Remember how the fans
have pull-cords? We NEVER use them for the lights but wifey had pulled
the friggin thing


Finding switches or other features in your car as you clean it prior to
selling it.

Did that with the Galaxy after owning it for three years. Never knew
there were little lockers in the front doors...

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On Wed, 15 May 2013 00:01:32 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 14/05/13 23:47, Ericp wrote:
On Tue, 14 May 2013 20:34:43 +0100, "Mentalguy2k8"
wrote:

Mine has to be taking the waste pipe off the sink and cleaning it
under running water in the same sink without a plug in. Every single
time.
Draining the blocked sink into a bucket by removing the pipe from the
underneath of the sink and then happily standing up and emptying the
bucket into the sink and thinking NOOOOOOoooo as the water washed over
my feet.
+1 BTDTGTTS

I think we all have!



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Mentalguy2k8 wrote:
Mine has to be taking the waste pipe off the sink and cleaning it under
running water in the same sink without a plug in. Every single time.

Parked car in the 'short stay' bays at the station to drop somebody off.
Come back to the car and the key got stuck in the lock and it wouldn't turn.
Pulled out the Haynes manual and proceeded to try to hotwire the car (in
full view of passers by). Eventually gave up and called the RAC. RAC man
took off the steering wheel lock (which I'd never heard of before) and it
worked fine.

Theo

On 14/05/2013 22:28, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 14/05/2013 20:34, Mentalguy2k8 wrote:
Mine has to be taking the waste pipe off the sink and cleaning it under
running water in the same sink without a plug in. Every single time.

Can't call yourself a DIY plumber until you have done that. BTDTGTTS.

The better version is when you are under the sink, and pass the bucket
out to a helper and ask them to empty it...!



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Mentalguy2k8 wrote:
Mine has to be taking the waste pipe off the sink and cleaning it under
running water in the same sink without a plug in. Every single time.

BTDTBetc!

How about: Refurb'ing a friend's tiny kitchen. Same units & new doors,
different worktop, bit of cabling, new tiles and decided that what had
been under the wallpaper could do with a skim. Mate who's a plasterer
comes in and finishes off.

Stood with my friend looking at the drying plaster and:

"How much effort would it be to move that doorway across"

I believe the plasterer is still thinking of suing for damage to his work!

(It was a worthwhile move, the door was off-centre, wasting space and
causing the fridge to block cupboards)

Scott

On May 14, 8:34*pm, "Mentalguy2k8" wrote:
Mine has to be taking the waste pipe off the sink and cleaning it under
running water in the same sink without a plug in. Every single time.Ads not by this site

Lay concrete, then absentmindedly walk across it a few
minutes later.

Try to construct a thermal heat store.

On 14/05/2013 23:49, Graham. wrote:
On Tue, 14 May 2013 22:32:10 +0100, fred wrote:

In article , Mentalguy2k8
writes
Mine has to be taking the waste pipe off the sink and cleaning it under
running water in the same sink without a plug in. Every single time.

Mentioning this group in another, resulting in a well known poster there
thinking it was acceptable to include this group in their
socio-political ramblings.

uk.rec.sheds got a mention in my daughters Linguistics dissertation.
She still graduated with a first.


Seeing an increasing number of dissertation students use forums as a
source of primary data.

Rob

On Tuesday, May 14, 2013 8:34:43 PM UTC+1, Mentalguy2k8 wrote:
Mine has to be taking the waste pipe off the sink and cleaning it under

running water in the same sink without a plug in. Every single time.

I didn't make that mistake.
I remembered to put the plug in - thinking "ooh, close one" !
Then when I'd finished cleaning the waste pipe I pulled out the plug !

Simon.

In article , Bob Eager
writes
On Tue, 14 May 2013 22:32:10 +0100, fred wrote:

In article , Mentalguy2k8
writes
Mine has to be taking the waste pipe off the sink and cleaning it under
running water in the same sink without a plug in. Every single time.

Mentioning this group in another, resulting in a well known poster there
thinking it was acceptable to include this group in their
socio-political ramblings.

Mentioning lightning conductors in this group and getting the w_tom loony
again.

Suitably mitigated by your public service sig.
--
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it's a ba-na-na . . . .

In article ,
Theo Markettos writes:
Mentalguy2k8 wrote:
Mine has to be taking the waste pipe off the sink and cleaning it under
running water in the same sink without a plug in. Every single time.

Parked car in the 'short stay' bays at the station to drop somebody off.
Come back to the car and the key got stuck in the lock and it wouldn't turn.
Pulled out the Haynes manual and proceeded to try to hotwire the car (in
full view of passers by). Eventually gave up and called the RAC. RAC man
took off the steering wheel lock (which I'd never heard of before) and it
worked fine.

A friend did something similar with a rental car. At end of a
holiday, they were driving one of the people to a railway station
in Spain IIRC, who was going home to Germany by train, before
dropping the car back at the airport and catching a plane home.

When they dropped off the friend at the station, unload his lugguage,
and waved him off, they realised the rental car keys were on the train,
heading off to Germany, and the car was stopped in a no stopping place
outside the station...

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In message , Mentalguy2k8
writes
Mine has to be taking the waste pipe off the sink and cleaning it under
running water in the same sink without a plug in. Every single time.

I must have a very selective memory unless you count the occasion when I
foolishly stepped off a 15' ladder onto an asbestos roof that had been
exposed to fire....

--
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On Tue, 14 May 2013 20:34:43 +0100, Mentalguy2k8 wrote:

Mine has to be taking the waste pipe off the sink and cleaning it under
running water in the same sink without a plug in. Every single time.

Don't think I've actually done that and made a mess but I've certainly
got very close. Like replacing bucket used to catch the trap water under
the sink, rinsing the trap, going to empty bucket...

Cutting through the rising main before the inside stopcock was
interesting. In mitigation the "builders" who refurbished this place had
run it through that copper coloured plastic waste pipe through the floor
slab but at a shallow angle. This "waste" pipe didn't appear to go
anywhere it wasn't connected to the sink, and didn't appear the other
side of the units. It was in the way... Hacksaw out, cutting through
nicely, phsssstttt, and water appears in the cut. Fortunately I'd found
the outside stop cock and obtained a key a week or two before (it's
twenty yards down the road in the verge normally buried under grass). It
was only a small cut and inside the "waste" pipe so water wasn't spraying
everywhere for the few minutes it took to get the water turned off.

--
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Dave.

On 14/05/2013 20:34, Mentalguy2k8 wrote:
Mine has to be taking the waste pipe off the sink and cleaning it under
running water in the same sink without a plug in. Every single time.

Using a chain lubricant that required heating for my motorcycle chain.

Put it on the cooker at a low setting, went outside to undo another nut
which was stuck fast. Eventually heard an odd popping/bubbling noise.
Kitchen black. Air black. Me black.

Called fire brigade but, luckily, it was all disgusting mess rather than
burning building.

Used spray lubricant thereafter...

--
Rod

On 15 May 2013 01:59:56 +0100 (BST), Theo Markettos
wrote:

Mentalguy2k8 wrote:
Mine has to be taking the waste pipe off the sink and cleaning it under
running water in the same sink without a plug in. Every single time.

Parked car in the 'short stay' bays at the station to drop somebody off.
Come back to the car and the key got stuck in the lock and it wouldn't turn.
Pulled out the Haynes manual and proceeded to try to hotwire the car (in
full view of passers by). Eventually gave up and called the RAC. RAC man
took off the steering wheel lock (which I'd never heard of before) and it
worked fine.

Theo

The first car I had with an integral steering lock

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%Profound_observation%

As I was saying

The first car I had with an integral steering lock had a button on the
underside of the column that you had to press before you could rotate
the key fully anticlockwise which engaged the lock.
So removing the key was a two-handed affair.



--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%

polygonum wrote:
On 14/05/2013 20:34, Mentalguy2k8 wrote:
Mine has to be taking the waste pipe off the sink and cleaning it under
running water in the same sink without a plug in. Every single time.

Using a chain lubricant that required heating for my motorcycle chain.

Put it on the cooker at a low setting, went outside to undo another nut
which was stuck fast. Eventually heard an odd popping/bubbling noise.
Kitchen black. Air black. Me black.

Called fire brigade but, luckily, it was all disgusting mess rather than
burning building.

Used spray lubricant thereafter...


In the days before asbestos was dangerous, cutting a hole in the
asbestos sheeted wall with a circular saw with abrasive blade in it and
cutting through all circuits to the rear of the house, the last one
being the one the saw was on.

On Tuesday, May 14, 2013 8:34:43 PM UTC+1, Mentalguy2k8 wrote:
Mine has to be taking the waste pipe off the sink and cleaning it under
running water in the same sink without a plug in. Every single time.
More of a near miss, but...
Many years ago I was helping a charity out - they were using a former hospital building owned by the Department of Transport (waiting to be demolished for a bypass). One day I went in and noticed the drains seemed to be overflowing, even though we weren't using much water. A bit of detective work showed that the drain ran along the back of the building, then out to a little housing estate (presumably they'd sold of some of the grounds for development, and the developer just tapped into the existing drain). All the houses were on higher ground, so none had noticed the problem.
Continuing to follow the drain, I finally found a manhole that wasn't full, just before the sewer in the road, and a bit of inspection showed some roots blocking the inlet. Unfortunately the manhole was pretty deep, so although I had a hook around 6 feet long to try to move the roots, I still had to lean a fair way into the hole.
As I removed the blockage a tidal wave of backed up sewage started pouring into the manhole - it rose to within an inch of the top...
Fortunately I was younger and fitter then (and I had expected a fair bit to come through, I'd just underestimated), so I got out just in time, with only a bruise where I'd hit something in my hurry to get out.

On 15/05/2013 14:45, wrote:
On Tuesday, May 14, 2013 8:34:43 PM UTC+1, Mentalguy2k8 wrote:
Mine has to be taking the waste pipe off the sink and cleaning it
under running water in the same sink without a plug in. Every
single time.

top... Fortunately I was younger and fitter then (and I had expected
a fair bit to come through, I'd just underestimated), so I got out
just in time, with only a bruise where I'd hit something in my hurry
to get out.

Reminds me of a similar episode at my mum's place... she was complaining
of a blocked drain, so I went round with rods etc to help clear. We
finally established that most of the run down the side of the house was
clear, and so it must be the final few yards to the manhole. Alas there
was what they termed a "weaver" in this drain - a vented vertical drop
tube that intercepts the end of the drain and drops it about another 3
or 4 feet before it enters the manhole. This means you can't rod right
through from the top, and rodding down the weaver was not shifting it
either. So mother decides we need to go down the manhole and rod back up
the last bit of pipe. I was going to do the gallant thing, but she
insisted on going down since she was wearing old clothes already (and in
those days, enthusiasm often got the better of her)...

So there she is at the bottom of this probably 10 - 12' deep hole
banging away with a couple of rods against some blockage (I don't think
she had thought this one through to the logical conclusion!) Then after
a moment there was a loud gurgle, and a sound of rushing water.
Realisation rapidly downed that she was about to be in the ****
(literally). There are foot holds set into the wall, but they were not
quick to scale in a panic. There was a scream, and I saw this hand reach
into the air for assistance. So I reached down, grabbed it and pulled
hard. Fortunately the combination of 5' something diddy mother, and
somewhat larger me, meant she came out of the hole like a cork out of a
bottle - with nothing more than slightly damp shoes!


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On 14/05/2013 20:34, Mentalguy2k8 wrote:

Mine has to be taking the waste pipe off the sink and cleaning it under
running water in the same sink without a plug in. Every single time.

I think the most powerfully dumb one must be sticking your hand into the
back of a planer thicknesser to sweep out some shavings, but forgetting
you have not turned it off!

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On 14 May, 20:34, "Mentalguy2k8" wrote:
Mine has to be taking the waste pipe off the sink and cleaning it under
running water in the same sink without a plug in. Every single time.

Using a pipe cutter to cut the service valve (closed) off the end of
the cold feed to the wachine machine without checking that, however
tortuous the route would need to be, it might, just might, be
connected to the rising main.

MBQ

On May 15, 11:53*am, polygonum wrote:
On 14/05/2013 20:34, Mentalguy2k8 wrote:

Mine has to be taking the waste pipe off the sink and cleaning it under
running water in the same sink without a plug in. Every single time.

Using a chain lubricant that required heating for my motorcycle chain.

Put it on the cooker at a low setting, went outside to undo another nut
which was stuck fast. Eventually heard an odd popping/bubbling noise.
Kitchen black. Air black. Me black.

Called fire brigade but, luckily, it was all disgusting mess rather than
burning building.

Used spray lubricant thereafter...

--
Rod

Linklyfe? I remember it well.

On 15/05/2013 11:53, polygonum wrote:
On 14/05/2013 20:34, Mentalguy2k8 wrote:
Mine has to be taking the waste pipe off the sink and cleaning it under
running water in the same sink without a plug in. Every single time.

Using a chain lubricant that required heating for my motorcycle chain.

Put it on the cooker at a low setting

Do bikers still do that, or is it one of these things that's confined to
history?

I used to do it regularly in my own motorcycling days about 30 years
ago, in my Mum's kitchen; she nearly had a fit every time, convinced it
was going to end badly one way ot another. Happy to report that it
*never* did!
--
David