How the world has changed. Partner fretting over whether her sewing
machine firmware update will work or go wrong... :-) I guess when I go
up to bed, my flaming toothbrush will be asking for Braun Updates to be
applied.

--
Rod

On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 22:57:13 +0100, polygonum
wrote:

How the world has changed. Partner fretting over whether her sewing
machine firmware update will work or go wrong... :-) I guess when I go
up to bed, my flaming toothbrush will be asking for Braun Updates to be
applied.

I've mislaid the charger for my Braun. Currently have to resort to a
manual thing.

--
Frank Erskine

Yes, well sewing machines are very complex these days. I always found them
fascinating in the old days, the number of different modes they had merely
controlled by mechanics, was truly classic engineering. Doing it with motors
and electronics is a bitof a cop out.



The daft thing is that apparently even Fridges in some cases are computer
controlled these days. My Remmington Shaver says it has a computer
controlled digital motor. Certainly it runs at the same speed for a very
long time then cuts out when it needs charging, so it obviously has some
kind of batter management system inside it.

Brian

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How the world has changed. Partner fretting over whether her sewing
machine firmware update will work or go wrong... :-) I guess when I go up
to bed, my flaming toothbrush will be asking for Braun Updates to be
applied.

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Rod

On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 08:46:41 +0100, Brian Gaff wrote:

Yes, well sewing machines are very complex these days. I always found them
fascinating in the old days, the number of different modes they had merely
controlled by mechanics, was truly classic engineering. Doing it with motors
and electronics is a bitof a cop out.

The daft thing is that apparently even Fridges in some cases are computer
controlled these days. My Remmington Shaver says it has a computer
controlled digital motor. Certainly it runs at the same speed for a very
long time then cuts out when it needs charging, so it obviously has some
kind of batter management system inside it.

Brian

I was looking at a new washing machine and noticed that it had a clock! That
means the machine needs to be left on and the delay timer is based on clock
time not just hours. What a waste of energy - probably several units a year
for no purpose.
At the extreme, I saw a review on an exercise machine that had a computer
for the various programmes and the machine wouldn't work when the computer
packed up! Somewhat missing the point of exercise.
--
Peter.
The gods will stay away
whilst religions hold sway

On 27/04/2013 09:58, PeterC wrote:
On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 08:46:41 +0100, Brian Gaff wrote:

Yes, well sewing machines are very complex these days. I always found them
fascinating in the old days, the number of different modes they had merely
controlled by mechanics, was truly classic engineering. Doing it with motors
and electronics is a bitof a cop out.

The daft thing is that apparently even Fridges in some cases are computer
controlled these days. My Remmington Shaver says it has a computer
controlled digital motor. Certainly it runs at the same speed for a very
long time then cuts out when it needs charging, so it obviously has some
kind of batter management system inside it.

Brian

I was looking at a new washing machine and noticed that it had a clock! That
means the machine needs to be left on and the delay timer is based on clock
time not just hours. What a waste of energy - probably several units a year
for no purpose.
At the extreme, I saw a review on an exercise machine that had a computer
for the various programmes and the machine wouldn't work when the computer
packed up! Somewhat missing the point of exercise.

Not necessarily - it could run the clock off a small rechargeable. Or
have a CR2032 to back up the time.

--
Rod

On 27/04/2013 08:46, Brian Gaff wrote:
Yes, well sewing machines are very complex these days. I always found them
fascinating in the old days, the number of different modes they had merely
controlled by mechanics, was truly classic engineering. Doing it with motors
and electronics is a bitof a cop out.



The daft thing is that apparently even Fridges in some cases are computer
controlled these days. My Remmington Shaver says it has a computer
controlled digital motor. Certainly it runs at the same speed for a very
long time then cuts out when it needs charging, so it obviously has some
kind of batter management system inside it.

Brian

Fearsomely complex! This does fancy embroidery work, etc.

And the update went fine. Phew!!!

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Rod

On 4/27/2013 5:09 AM, polygonum wrote:

Fearsomely complex! This does fancy embroidery work, etc.

I have one of those fancy computer-run machines - Husqvarna - and it's
great, but I keep a couple of the old non-electronic ones as backup.

And the update went fine. Phew!!!

I was a bit nervous about upgrading mine, too.

On Saturday 27 April 2013 12:51 S Viemeister wrote in uk.d-i-y:

On 4/27/2013 5:09 AM, polygonum wrote:

Fearsomely complex! This does fancy embroidery work, etc.

I have one of those fancy computer-run machines - Husqvarna - and it's
great, but I keep a couple of the old non-electronic ones as backup.

And the update went fine. Phew!!!

I was a bit nervous about upgrading mine, too.

Nervous is flashing the firmware on a SAN that's running 150 virtual servers
and holds 20TB.

Complete with the obligatory freeze for a few seconds as the controllers
restart. Which always happens a good few seconds after you're sure it
already happened. That causes the sphincter to wibble...


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On Saturday 27 April 2013 18:12 Huge wrote in uk.d-i-y:

On 2013-04-27, Tim Watts wrote:
On Saturday 27 April 2013 12:51 S Viemeister wrote in uk.d-i-y:

On 4/27/2013 5:09 AM, polygonum wrote:

Fearsomely complex! This does fancy embroidery work, etc.

I have one of those fancy computer-run machines - Husqvarna - and it's
great, but I keep a couple of the old non-electronic ones as backup.

And the update went fine. Phew!!!

I was a bit nervous about upgrading mine, too.

Nervous is flashing the firmware on a SAN that's running 150 virtual
servers and holds 20TB.

I'm so glad I'm not in an operational role any more.



I'm in every role - it's just me Which is kind of nice in that everything
is start to finish. And no meetings.


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http://www.sensorly.com/ Crowd mapping of 2G/3G/4G mobile signal coverage

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On 27/04/2013 15:44, Tim Watts wrote:

Nervous is flashing the firmware on a SAN that's running 150 virtual servers
and holds 20TB.

That's why the SANs which run similar stuff for us have dual
controllers. Screw one up, the other takes over. Maybe stuff runs a
little slower for a bit, but it's not dead. And of course there's the DR
kit on another site, and I've ensured that that copy is up to date
before doing anything really scary.

On Sunday 28 April 2013 00:27 Clive George wrote in uk.d-i-y:

On 27/04/2013 15:44, Tim Watts wrote:

Nervous is flashing the firmware on a SAN that's running 150 virtual
servers and holds 20TB.

That's why the SANs which run similar stuff for us have dual
controllers. Screw one up, the other takes over. Maybe stuff runs a
little slower for a bit, but it's not dead. And of course there's the DR
kit on another site, and I've ensured that that copy is up to date
before doing anything really scary.

So does mine - but as you cannot upgrade each contoller seperately (well
"it" probably does, but you have not control) it is still a pants wibbling
moment.

No real logic of course - it's a very reliable beast. But it still scare
me...

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In article ,
Brian Gaff wrote:

The daft thing is that apparently even Fridges in some cases are computer
controlled these days. My Remmington Shaver says it has a computer
controlled digital motor. Certainly it runs at the same speed for a very
long time then cuts out when it needs charging, so it obviously has some
kind of batter management system inside it.

"Digital Motors" are brushless DC motors, so they need some sort of
active control to get the step sequence right.

The speed thing is likely to be better battery technology, although
I suspect a clever system can have the motor spec'd to run at best
speed with less battery volts than the battery can supply, so that you
get what appears to be a bit more longevity at full speed as the
battery runs down.

All this can be done on a microcontroller the size of a pimple these days...

Gordon (wet shave, no power required)

In article ,
Tim Watts wrote:
On Sunday 28 April 2013 00:27 Clive George wrote in uk.d-i-y:

That's why the SANs which run similar stuff for us have dual
controllers. Screw one up, the other takes over. Maybe stuff runs a
little slower for a bit, but it's not dead. And of course there's the DR
kit on another site, and I've ensured that that copy is up to date
before doing anything really scary.

So does mine - but as you cannot upgrade each contoller seperately (well
"it" probably does, but you have not control) it is still a pants wibbling
moment.


Still drops paths though. Should be fine, as host fail over to other paths
on the other controllers... or should do :-)

If they don't then we have a cold start of 210TB of VMs... that were
killed in a rather nasty way. Not a job I fancy :-)


No real logic of course - it's a very reliable beast. But it still scare
me...


Indeed, ours have never let us down. Always a first time though :-)

Darren

On Friday, April 26, 2013 10:57:13 PM UTC+1, polygonum wrote:
How the world has changed. Partner fretting over whether her sewing
machine firmware update will work or go wrong... :-)

Someone at work commented that they got a new camera lens which came
with instructions to "check the website for firmware updates".

In article ,
Martin Bonner wrote:

Someone at work commented that they got a new camera lens which came
with instructions to "check the website for firmware updates".


Yep, Sigma now even have a USB dock to make it easier

http://www.sigmaphoto.com/product/sigma-usb-dock

Darren

On 29/04/2013 15:20, Martin Bonner wrote:
On Friday, April 26, 2013 10:57:13 PM UTC+1, polygonum wrote:
How the world has changed. Partner fretting over whether her sewing
machine firmware update will work or go wrong... :-)

Someone at work commented that they got a new camera lens which came
with instructions to "check the website for firmware updates".


I have had firmware updates on my olympus lenses and they are several
years old so its not something new.

On 29/04/2013 17:39, D.M.Chapman wrote:
In article ,
Martin Bonner wrote:

Someone at work commented that they got a new camera lens which came
with instructions to "check the website for firmware updates".


Yep, Sigma now even have a USB dock to make it easier

http://www.sigmaphoto.com/product/sigma-usb-dock

Darren


mine has a usb dock, its called a camera body when its taking pictures.

On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 22:57:13 +0100, polygonum
wrote:

How the world has changed. Partner fretting over whether her sewing
machine firmware update will work or go wrong... :-) I guess when I go
up to bed, my flaming toothbrush will be asking for Braun Updates to be
applied.

Don't forget to update its AV software and re-enable the firewall ;-)
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(='.'=) If a man stands in a forest and no woman is around
(")_(") is he still wrong?

On 2013-04-26, polygonum wrote:

How the world has changed. Partner fretting over whether her sewing
machine firmware update will work or go wrong... :-) I guess when I go
up to bed, my flaming toothbrush will be asking for Braun Updates to be
applied.

You mean flaming if the update goes wrong?

On 02/05/2013 13:21, Mark wrote:
On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 22:57:13 +0100, polygonum
wrote:

How the world has changed. Partner fretting over whether her sewing
machine firmware update will work or go wrong... :-) I guess when I go
up to bed, my flaming toothbrush will be asking for Braun Updates to be
applied.

Don't forget to update its AV software and re-enable the firewall ;-)

And after all that, it needs Java as well.

Well, I do. Nice cup of coffee...

--
Rod