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It was recommended to me and I've just bought a tub of Wilco's own brand stuff.

Comes in a big tub that would usually weigh about half a kilo but feels like there's nothing in it! It looks like a cross between meringue and shaving foam in the tub!

Claims to not shrink, be brilliant white and give smooth finish.
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Murmansk writes:

It was recommended to me and I've just bought a tub of Wilco's own brand stuff.

Comes in a big tub that would usually weigh about half a kilo but feels like there's nothing in it! It looks like a cross between meringue and shaving foam in the tub!

Claims to not shrink, be brilliant white and give smooth finish.


I'm not sure about glass beads but I've tried both of these which fit
the rest of your description:

http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Pain.../sd3169/p20822
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Pain.../sd3169/p88654

Except that they are rubbish. Like trying to fill a hole with slightly
sticky sawdust. Maybe I'm doing it wrong, in which case I'd love to
hear how to get it right.

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On 09/02/2013 17:35, Murmansk wrote:
It was recommended to me and I've just bought a tub of Wilco's own
brand stuff.

Comes in a big tub that would usually weigh about half a kilo but
feels like there's nothing in it! It looks like a cross between
meringue and shaving foam in the tub!

Claims to not shrink, be brilliant white and give smooth finish.

Just been using such products obtained from ToolStation.

For my purposes, they were excellent. I have repainted the living room
and had various repair work to do. Gaps and cracks between some skirting
and the wall, minor cracking below cornice, nail holes, couple of minor
wall cracks that had split the painted paper. In every case I bunged
this stuff on, wiped away excess and painted over in very short order.
And it has been fine.

It was especially good on the paper tear/crack - wiped some on with
finger, shooshed it around to try to get some into the crack, wiped off
excess with a damp cloth. Painted.

All mends currently invisible!

Found the 20822 1 Strike Filler 450 ml OK but needed some water added.
The gun version 87431 Instant Plaster Filler 310ml White was very
convenient but does tend to come out very fast and continues to do so a
bit after releasing pressure.

I would be wary in areas it is likely to get knocked, but for the sorts
of things I did, happily continue to use it.

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On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 09:35:30 -0800 (PST), Murmansk
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It was recommended to me and I've just bought a tub of Wilco's own brand stuff.

Comes in a big tub that would usually weigh about half a kilo but feels like there's nothing in it! It looks like a cross between meringue and shaving foam in the tub!

Claims to not shrink, be brilliant white and give smooth finish.


I have used Red Devil for more than a year on a variety of jobs and
found it to be excellent for filling most deepish holes - I would not
use it for very shallow stuff which I use Tetrion Fine Surface for. As
Rod indicates it can be susceptible to impact damage.

Some time ago SWMBO donated a flexible cake slice very similar to this
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B...&creative=6738
and I have found it to be excellent for applying fillers.
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On 09/02/2013 19:47, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 09:35:30 -0800 (PST), Murmansk
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It was recommended to me and I've just bought a tub of Wilco's own
brand stuff.

Comes in a big tub that would usually weigh about half a kilo but
feels like there's nothing in it! It looks like a cross between
meringue and shaving foam in the tub!

Claims to not shrink, be brilliant white and give smooth finish.



These glass beads as you call them may well be a bi-product of
coal-fired power stations. Coal-fired power stations produce lots of
ash, not surprisingly, and a tiny proportion of it is in the form of
hollow microspheres that form in the very high local temperatures in
the flame in the boilers. If the ash is discharged into lagoons, as
some is, these microspheres stay on the surface and get blown to one
side, where they can be skimmed off. They are known as in the
industry as cenospheres and have many applications as lightweight
fillers in plastics, cements etc. See http://cenospheres.org/ , or
google for cenospheres fly ash for more information.

I do not know about the Wilco stuff, the Ever Build says:

"A revolutionary filler formulated using lightweight polymer bubbles
that fills most holes and cracks, even deep holes, in just one quick
application with no need for secondary filling to level off as One
Strike will not shrink, sag or crack. One Strike Filler finishes smooth,
requiring little or no sanding and can be ready to paint in
approximately 30 minutes."

http://www.everbuild.co.uk/index.php...product_id=199

And the other product I also mentioned seems fairly similar.

Thanks for the interesting link on cenospheres.

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On Saturday, 9 February 2013 17:35:30 UTC, Murmansk wrote:
It was recommended to me and I've just bought a tub of Wilco's own brand stuff.



Comes in a big tub that would usually weigh about half a kilo but feels like there's nothing in it! It looks like a cross between meringue and shaving foam in the tub!



Claims to not shrink, be brilliant white and give smooth finish.


new?

been using similars for 3 ?more years

Great stuff - some flavours better than others but good. No use to refix into tho so be warned.

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On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 09:35:30 -0800 (PST), Murmansk
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It was recommended to me and I've just bought a tub of Wilco's own
brand stuff.

Comes in a big tub that would usually weigh about half a kilo but
feels like there's nothing in it! It looks like a cross between
meringue and shaving foam in the tub!

Claims to not shrink, be brilliant white and give smooth finish.



These glass beads as you call them may well be a bi-product of
coal-fired power stations. Coal-fired power stations produce lots of
ash, not surprisingly, and a tiny proportion of it is in the form of
hollow microspheres that form in the very high local temperatures in
the flame in the boilers. If the ash is discharged into lagoons, as
some is, these microspheres stay on the surface and get blown to one
side, where they can be skimmed off. They are known as in the industry
as cenospheres and have many applications as lightweight fillers in
plastics, cements etc. See http://cenospheres.org/ , or google for
cenospheres fly ash for more information.

And buy a geiger counter


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On 09/02/2013 20:28, Jim K wrote:
On Saturday, 9 February 2013 17:35:30 UTC, Murmansk wrote:
It was recommended to me and I've just bought a tub of Wilco's own
brand stuff.



Comes in a big tub that would usually weigh about half a kilo but
feels like there's nothing in it! It looks like a cross between
meringue and shaving foam in the tub!



Claims to not shrink, be brilliant white and give smooth finish.


new?

been using similars for 3 ?more years

Great stuff - some flavours better than others but good. No use to
refix into tho so be warned.

Jim K


The key thing about all these products, including ready mix plasters
etc, is that they contain very little water, so they dry quickly. Very
handy for deep filling where you might normally have to wait for a
couple of days before over painting. I've used them for exterior filling
and, so far, they have proved very stable and waterproof. I wonder if
microspheres could replace sand in some building applications
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On 10/02/13 08:19, stuart noble wrote:
On 09/02/2013 20:28, Jim K wrote:
On Saturday, 9 February 2013 17:35:30 UTC, Murmansk wrote:
It was recommended to me and I've just bought a tub of Wilco's own
brand stuff.



Comes in a big tub that would usually weigh about half a kilo but
feels like there's nothing in it! It looks like a cross between
meringue and shaving foam in the tub!



Claims to not shrink, be brilliant white and give smooth finish.


new?

been using similars for 3 ?more years

Great stuff - some flavours better than others but good. No use to
refix into tho so be warned.

Jim K


The key thing about all these products, including ready mix plasters
etc, is that they contain very little water, so they dry quickly. Very
handy for deep filling where you might normally have to wait for a
couple of days before over painting. I've used them for exterior filling
and, so far, they have proved very stable and waterproof. I wonder if
microspheres could replace sand in some building applications


what do you think is in polyfilla light anyway?

its microballoons, PVA and a bit of talc as far as I can tell.


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On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 09:35:30 -0800 (PST), Murmansk
wrote:

It was recommended to me and I've just bought a tub of Wilco's own brand
stuff.

Comes in a big tub that would usually weigh about half a kilo but feels
like there's nothing in it! It looks like a cross between meringue and
shaving foam in the tub!

Claims to not shrink, be brilliant white and give smooth finish.



These glass beads as you call them may well be a bi-product of
coal-fired power stations. Coal-fired power stations produce lots of
ash, not surprisingly, and a tiny proportion of it is in the form of
hollow microspheres that form in the very high local temperatures in
the flame in the boilers. If the ash is discharged into lagoons, as
some is, these microspheres stay on the surface and get blown to one
side, where they can be skimmed off. They are known as in the industry
as cenospheres and have many applications as lightweight fillers in
plastics, cements etc. See http://cenospheres.org/ , or google for
cenospheres fly ash for more information.

Or
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cenospheres


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