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I took John Rumm's advice and went for a Samsung in the end.
Specifically the CLX-4195FW. So far I'm very impressed. Scanning - excellent quality with scan2email and scan2usb. xsane works over the network too, but you have to do something weird to set it up the first time. Photo printing quality I think is *very* good for a laser. Test is excellent too. Web interface has about a million options. The only thing that is wrong is it forgets the default Scane From: mail address if you power cycle it (sleep is OK though). I did flash the firmware to the latest, which may be the problem. However, I nearly fell off my chair when I phoned Samsung, expecting a 3 hour wait to talk to a yabber fool in India working off a script. After going only about 3 levels deep into the phone menu and choosing "Printers", after about 30 seconds of ringing and irish sounding bloke answered the phone (and confirmed it was an irish call centre). He listened to everything I'd done (I'm used to fault reporting, so I gave it quickly and briefly). He agreed with my assessment that it was firmware related and it was worth factory resetting the config. Except he didn;t know how and it's undocumented. He emailed my a few hours later with the engineering menu access codes and instructions to reset the config. I did. It didn't help. 2 days later he emailed back apologising for being away and saying he would escalate the problem. It's not fixed by I am extremely impressed with the handling. Not even a critical problem (workaround: reset from address in web interface), though it is irritating. -- Tim Watts Personal Blog: http://www.dionic.net/tim/ If you are reading this from a web interface eg DIY Banter, DIY Forum or Google Groups, please be aware this is NOT a forum, and you are merely using a web portal to a USENET group. Many people block posters coming from web portals due to perceived SPAM or inaneness. For a better method of access, please see: http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?title=Usenet "History will be kind to me for I intend to write it." |
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On 12/01/2013 12:55, Tim Watts wrote:
I took John Rumm's advice and went for a Samsung in the end. Specifically the CLX-4195FW. So far I'm very impressed. Scanning - excellent quality with scan2email and scan2usb. xsane works over the network too, but you have to do something weird to set it up the first time. The weak point on these sort of machines tends to be the auto doc feeder. How's this one? |
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On Saturday 12 January 2013 13:52 GB wrote in uk.d-i-y:
On 12/01/2013 12:55, Tim Watts wrote: I took John Rumm's advice and went for a Samsung in the end. Specifically the CLX-4195FW. So far I'm very impressed. Scanning - excellent quality with scan2email and scan2usb. xsane works over the network too, but you have to do something weird to set it up the first time. The weak point on these sort of machines tends to be the auto doc feeder. How's this one? Granted it's new, but it seems pretty good. The only software weakness is the fact that you cannot scan with "pseudo duplex" - the ADF is simplex only and I doubt it has enough RAM (256MB) to buffer one set of sides to allow a manual turn over. -- Tim Watts Personal Blog: http://www.dionic.net/tim/ If you are reading this from a web interface eg DIY Banter, DIY Forum or Google Groups, please be aware this is NOT a forum, and you are merely using a web portal to a USENET group. Many people block posters coming from web portals due to perceived SPAM or inaneness. For a better method of access, please see: http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?title=Usenet "It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies." |
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In article , Tim Watts
writes I took John Rumm's advice and went for a Samsung in the end. Specifically the CLX-4195FW. So far I'm very impressed. Scanning - excellent quality with scan2email and scan2usb. xsane works over the network too, but you have to do something weird to set it up the first time. Photo printing quality I think is *very* good for a laser. Test is excellent too. Thanks for feeding back, I'm also in the market for a colour laser, not particularly a multifunction but it would mean one less box in the office. At 300quid odd it's no economy model so I would hope the print quality was spot on ;-). A good colour display does justify a bit of extra cost as I've seen quite a few good printers spoiled by a crap (or no) display and most punters can't remember how to interrogate or can't understand the details of a web interface Toner costs are a bit worrying, at 200quid a set that brings cost of printer plus one set of spares to 500quid so I'd be looking for something really special. This isn't really something for Joe Soap at home. With ongoing costs of modern stuff so high I'm tempted to replace the failing internal parts of my Dell 1320C to get some more life out of it and take advantage of the lower toner costs (40quid a set for compatibles). Although no solution yet on your tech issue, top marks for effort so far, I've had similar good service from OKI in the past. -- fred it's a ba-na-na . . . . |
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On 13/01/13 10:51, fred wrote:
In article , Tim Watts writes I took John Rumm's advice and went for a Samsung in the end. Specifically the CLX-4195FW. So far I'm very impressed. Scanning - excellent quality with scan2email and scan2usb. xsane works over the network too, but you have to do something weird to set it up the first time. Photo printing quality I think is *very* good for a laser. Test is excellent too. Thanks for feeding back, I'm also in the market for a colour laser, not particularly a multifunction but it would mean one less box in the office. At 300quid odd it's no economy model so I would hope the print quality was spot on ;-). A good colour display does justify a bit of extra cost as I've seen quite a few good printers spoiled by a crap (or no) display and most punters can't remember how to interrogate or can't understand the details of a web interface Toner costs are a bit worrying, at 200quid a set that brings cost of printer plus one set of spares to 500quid so I'd be looking for something really special. This isn't really something for Joe Soap at home. With ongoing costs of modern stuff so high I'm tempted to replace the failing internal parts of my Dell 1320C to get some more life out of it and take advantage of the lower toner costs (40quid a set for compatibles). Although no solution yet on your tech issue, top marks for effort so far, I've had similar good service from OKI in the past. I reckon the internal sleep mode on the new HP laserjet color printer here saves more in electricity over a year than I spend on toner. I bought 'compatible' cartridges and instead of 200 notes it was a lot less - about 120 quid. It's now had the whole set replaced after a couple of years. Probably about 1000 pages in all. if you remember that 200 quid is not more than 200 kilowatt hours and there are 8500 hours in a year, 22 watts of power saved is the same price as the toner. 24x7 kit really adds up..I am fighting to get it all down, but two desktops, a printer, a router, a pair of speakers, two scanners, a big 100Mbps switch, a PABX and a low power server..well...there's a reason why this home office is generally the warmest place to be :-) -- Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc-ra-cy) €“ a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers. |
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if you remember that 200 quid is not more than 200 kilowatt hours and
there are 8500 hours in a year, 22 watts of power saved is the same price as the toner. 24x7 kit really adds up..I am fighting to get it all down, but two desktops, a printer, a router, a pair of speakers, two scanners, a big 100Mbps switch, a PABX and a low power server..well...there's a reason why this home office is generally the warmest place to be :-) U missed out the Aircon costs in the Summer;!..... -- Tony Sayer |
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On 13/01/13 17:01, tony sayer wrote:
if you remember that 200 quid is not more than 200 kilowatt hours and there are 8500 hours in a year, 22 watts of power saved is the same price as the toner. 24x7 kit really adds up..I am fighting to get it all down, but two desktops, a printer, a router, a pair of speakers, two scanners, a big 100Mbps switch, a PABX and a low power server..well...there's a reason why this home office is generally the warmest place to be :-) U missed out the Aircon costs in the Summer;!..... One of the benefits of a home office is that there is no necessity to dress for work. And if you have - as I have - worked in an uninsulated tin roofed factory in Johannesburg, not much the UK can throw at you is really significant. -- Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc-ra-cy) €“ a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers. |
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On Sunday 13 January 2013 19:03 The Natural Philosopher wrote in uk.d-i-y:
One of the benefits of a home office is that there is no necessity to dress for work. Beware the laptop's forward facing webcam when starting a Skype chat! -- Tim Watts Personal Blog: http://www.dionic.net/tim/ If you are reading this from a web interface eg DIY Banter, DIY Forum or Google Groups, please be aware this is NOT a forum, and you are merely using a web portal to a USENET group. Many people block posters coming from web portals due to perceived SPAM or inaneness. For a better method of access, please see: http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?title=Usenet "History will be kind to me for I intend to write it." |
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On 13/01/13 22:15, Tim Watts wrote:
On Sunday 13 January 2013 19:03 The Natural Philosopher wrote in uk.d-i-y: One of the benefits of a home office is that there is no necessity to dress for work. Beware the laptop's forward facing webcam when starting a Skype chat! No cam, no skype. -- Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc-ra-cy) €“ a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers. |
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In article , The Natural Philosopher
scribeth thus On 13/01/13 17:01, tony sayer wrote: if you remember that 200 quid is not more than 200 kilowatt hours and there are 8500 hours in a year, 22 watts of power saved is the same price as the toner. 24x7 kit really adds up..I am fighting to get it all down, but two desktops, a printer, a router, a pair of speakers, two scanners, a big 100Mbps switch, a PABX and a low power server..well...there's a reason why this home office is generally the warmest place to be :-) U missed out the Aircon costs in the Summer;!..... One of the benefits of a home office is that there is no necessity to dress for work. Umm .. thats more info than we really need;!... And if you have - as I have - worked in an uninsulated tin roofed factory in Johannesburg, not much the UK can throw at you is really significant. Yes I remember you saying some years ago, and to think that end of Africa is the same latitude to the north end .. yes must have been bloody unbearable!... -- Tony Sayer |
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in 1195490 20130113 233108 tony sayer wrote:
Yes I remember you saying some years ago, and to think that end of Africa is the same latitude to the north end .. yes must have been bloody unbearable!... It helps that Jo'burg is at 1,750m |
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On 14/01/13 08:18, Bob Martin wrote:
in 1195490 20130113 233108 tony sayer wrote: Yes I remember you saying some years ago, and to think that end of Africa is the same latitude to the north end .. yes must have been bloody unbearable!... It helps that Jo'burg is at 1,750m Doesn't help in summer. But I did see snow in winter once. -- Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc-ra-cy) €“ a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers. |
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