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I took John Rumm's advice and went for a Samsung in the end.

Specifically the CLX-4195FW. So far I'm very impressed.

Scanning - excellent quality with scan2email and scan2usb. xsane works over
the network too, but you have to do something weird to set it up the first
time.

Photo printing quality I think is *very* good for a laser. Test is excellent
too.

Web interface has about a million options.

The only thing that is wrong is it forgets the default Scane From: mail
address if you power cycle it (sleep is OK though). I did flash the firmware
to the latest, which may be the problem.

However, I nearly fell off my chair when I phoned Samsung, expecting a 3
hour wait to talk to a yabber fool in India working off a script.

After going only about 3 levels deep into the phone menu and choosing
"Printers", after about 30 seconds of ringing and irish sounding bloke
answered the phone (and confirmed it was an irish call centre).

He listened to everything I'd done (I'm used to fault reporting, so I gave
it quickly and briefly). He agreed with my assessment that it was firmware
related and it was worth factory resetting the config. Except he didn;t know
how and it's undocumented.

He emailed my a few hours later with the engineering menu access codes and
instructions to reset the config. I did. It didn't help.

2 days later he emailed back apologising for being away and saying he would
escalate the problem.

It's not fixed by I am extremely impressed with the handling. Not even a
critical problem (workaround: reset from address in web interface), though
it is irritating.

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On 12/01/2013 12:55, Tim Watts wrote:
I took John Rumm's advice and went for a Samsung in the end.

Specifically the CLX-4195FW. So far I'm very impressed.

Scanning - excellent quality with scan2email and scan2usb. xsane works over
the network too, but you have to do something weird to set it up the first
time.


The weak point on these sort of machines tends to be the auto doc
feeder. How's this one?


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On 12/01/2013 12:55, Tim Watts wrote:
I took John Rumm's advice and went for a Samsung in the end.

Specifically the CLX-4195FW. So far I'm very impressed.

Scanning - excellent quality with scan2email and scan2usb. xsane works
over the network too, but you have to do something weird to set it up the
first time.


The weak point on these sort of machines tends to be the auto doc
feeder. How's this one?


Granted it's new, but it seems pretty good.

The only software weakness is the fact that you cannot scan with "pseudo
duplex" - the ADF is simplex only and I doubt it has enough RAM (256MB) to
buffer one set of sides to allow a manual turn over.
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I took John Rumm's advice and went for a Samsung in the end.

Specifically the CLX-4195FW. So far I'm very impressed.

Scanning - excellent quality with scan2email and scan2usb. xsane works over
the network too, but you have to do something weird to set it up the first
time.

Photo printing quality I think is *very* good for a laser. Test is excellent
too.

Thanks for feeding back, I'm also in the market for a colour laser, not
particularly a multifunction but it would mean one less box in the
office.

At 300quid odd it's no economy model so I would hope the print quality
was spot on ;-). A good colour display does justify a bit of extra cost
as I've seen quite a few good printers spoiled by a crap (or no) display
and most punters can't remember how to interrogate or can't understand
the details of a web interface

Toner costs are a bit worrying, at 200quid a set that brings cost of
printer plus one set of spares to 500quid so I'd be looking for
something really special. This isn't really something for Joe Soap at
home.

With ongoing costs of modern stuff so high I'm tempted to replace the
failing internal parts of my Dell 1320C to get some more life out of it
and take advantage of the lower toner costs (40quid a set for
compatibles).

Although no solution yet on your tech issue, top marks for effort so
far, I've had similar good service from OKI in the past.
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On 13/01/13 10:51, fred wrote:
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I took John Rumm's advice and went for a Samsung in the end.

Specifically the CLX-4195FW. So far I'm very impressed.

Scanning - excellent quality with scan2email and scan2usb. xsane works
over
the network too, but you have to do something weird to set it up the
first
time.

Photo printing quality I think is *very* good for a laser. Test is
excellent
too.

Thanks for feeding back, I'm also in the market for a colour laser, not
particularly a multifunction but it would mean one less box in the office.

At 300quid odd it's no economy model so I would hope the print quality
was spot on ;-). A good colour display does justify a bit of extra cost
as I've seen quite a few good printers spoiled by a crap (or no) display
and most punters can't remember how to interrogate or can't understand
the details of a web interface

Toner costs are a bit worrying, at 200quid a set that brings cost of
printer plus one set of spares to 500quid so I'd be looking for
something really special. This isn't really something for Joe Soap at home.

With ongoing costs of modern stuff so high I'm tempted to replace the
failing internal parts of my Dell 1320C to get some more life out of it
and take advantage of the lower toner costs (40quid a set for compatibles).

Although no solution yet on your tech issue, top marks for effort so
far, I've had similar good service from OKI in the past.


I reckon the internal sleep mode on the new HP laserjet color printer
here saves more in electricity over a year than I spend on toner.

I bought 'compatible' cartridges and instead of 200 notes it was a lot
less - about 120 quid. It's now had the whole set replaced after a
couple of years. Probably about 1000 pages in all.

if you remember that 200 quid is not more than 200 kilowatt hours and
there are 8500 hours in a year, 22 watts of power saved is the same
price as the toner.

24x7 kit really adds up..I am fighting to get it all down, but two
desktops, a printer, a router, a pair of speakers, two scanners, a big
100Mbps switch, a PABX and a low power server..well...there's a reason
why this home office is generally the warmest place to be :-)






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if you remember that 200 quid is not more than 200 kilowatt hours and
there are 8500 hours in a year, 22 watts of power saved is the same
price as the toner.

24x7 kit really adds up..I am fighting to get it all down, but two
desktops, a printer, a router, a pair of speakers, two scanners, a big
100Mbps switch, a PABX and a low power server..well...there's a reason
why this home office is generally the warmest place to be :-)




U missed out the Aircon costs in the Summer;!.....




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On 13/01/13 17:01, tony sayer wrote:
if you remember that 200 quid is not more than 200 kilowatt hours and
there are 8500 hours in a year, 22 watts of power saved is the same
price as the toner.

24x7 kit really adds up..I am fighting to get it all down, but two
desktops, a printer, a router, a pair of speakers, two scanners, a big
100Mbps switch, a PABX and a low power server..well...there's a reason
why this home office is generally the warmest place to be :-)




U missed out the Aircon costs in the Summer;!.....


One of the benefits of a home office is that there is no necessity to
dress for work.

And if you have - as I have - worked in an uninsulated tin roofed
factory in Johannesburg, not much the UK can throw at you is really
significant.









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One of the benefits of a home office is that there is no necessity to
dress for work.


Beware the laptop's forward facing webcam when starting a Skype chat!

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On Sunday 13 January 2013 19:03 The Natural Philosopher wrote in uk.d-i-y:


One of the benefits of a home office is that there is no necessity to
dress for work.


Beware the laptop's forward facing webcam when starting a Skype chat!

No cam, no skype.


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On 13/01/13 17:01, tony sayer wrote:
if you remember that 200 quid is not more than 200 kilowatt hours and
there are 8500 hours in a year, 22 watts of power saved is the same
price as the toner.

24x7 kit really adds up..I am fighting to get it all down, but two
desktops, a printer, a router, a pair of speakers, two scanners, a big
100Mbps switch, a PABX and a low power server..well...there's a reason
why this home office is generally the warmest place to be :-)




U missed out the Aircon costs in the Summer;!.....


One of the benefits of a home office is that there is no necessity to
dress for work.


Umm .. thats more info than we really need;!...


And if you have - as I have - worked in an uninsulated tin roofed
factory in Johannesburg, not much the UK can throw at you is really
significant.


Yes I remember you saying some years ago, and to think that end of
Africa is the same latitude to the north end .. yes must have been
bloody unbearable!...

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Yes I remember you saying some years ago, and to think that end of
Africa is the same latitude to the north end .. yes must have been
bloody unbearable!...


It helps that Jo'burg is at 1,750m
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in 1195490 20130113 233108 tony sayer wrote:

Yes I remember you saying some years ago, and to think that end of
Africa is the same latitude to the north end .. yes must have been
bloody unbearable!...


It helps that Jo'burg is at 1,750m

Doesn't help in summer.

But I did see snow in winter once.


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