Pipe and brake fluid
 

I'm intending making a modification to my cars clutch master cylinder,
as in adding a more accessible reservoir, which will need to be linked
to the original by a pipe. Are there any flexible pipes to be wary of
using with hydraulic fluid?

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Pipe and brake fluid
 

"Harry Bloomfield" wrote in message
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I'm intending making a modification to my cars clutch master cylinder, as
in adding a more accessible reservoir, which will need to be linked to the
original by a pipe. Are there any flexible pipes to be wary of using with
hydraulic fluid?

yup, most designed for water i guess,

Someone on the bike group did this not long ago, used some small bore hose
he found in the garage,
next day the hose was 'sweating' brake fluid,

i remember the VW beetle has a remote resovoir for the brake master
cylinder, that had some blue cloth covered flexi hose between the 2, so you
should be able to get brake fluid rated hose from a VW dealer... or any of
the thousand of specialist VW parts places,

Pipe and brake fluid
 

I'm intending making a modification to my cars clutch master cylinder,
as in adding a more accessible reservoir, which will need to be linked
to the original by a pipe. Are there any flexible pipes to be wary of
using with hydraulic fluid?


Use a flexible brake or clutch hose.

Mike

Pipe and brake fluid
 

On 01/10/2012 11:00, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
I'm intending making a modification to my cars clutch master cylinder,
as in adding a more accessible reservoir, which will need to be linked
to the original by a pipe. Are there any flexible pipes to be wary of
using with hydraulic fluid?

Try one of these readymade:

http://morrisminorspares.co.uk/shop/...roducts_id=428

Pipe and brake fluid
 

I'd be a bit wary about this sort of mod. Would it affect MOT?

Brian

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"Harry Bloomfield" wrote in message
. uk...
I'm intending making a modification to my cars clutch master cylinder, as
in adding a more accessible reservoir, which will need to be linked to
the original by a pipe. Are there any flexible pipes to be wary of using
with hydraulic fluid?

yup, most designed for water i guess,

Someone on the bike group did this not long ago, used some small bore hose
he found in the garage,
next day the hose was 'sweating' brake fluid,

i remember the VW beetle has a remote resovoir for the brake master
cylinder, that had some blue cloth covered flexi hose between the 2, so
you should be able to get brake fluid rated hose from a VW dealer... or
any of the thousand of specialist VW parts places,

Pipe and brake fluid
 

In article ,
Harry Bloomfield wrote:
I'm intending making a modification to my cars clutch master cylinder,
as in adding a more accessible reservoir, which will need to be linked
to the original by a pipe. Are there any flexible pipes to be wary of
using with hydraulic fluid?

I would ask why? Clutch hydraulics don't usually ever need topping up. If
it is leaking, it will only get worse.

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In article ,
Harry Bloomfield wrote:
I'm intending making a modification to my cars clutch master cylinder,
as in adding a more accessible reservoir, which will need to be linked
to the original by a pipe. Are there any flexible pipes to be wary of
using with hydraulic fluid?

I would ask why? Clutch hydraulics don't usually ever need topping up. If
it is leaking, it will only get worse.

Master cylinder + reservoir is difficult to check, located above the
pedal in the cabin and slave has a reputation of failing, so my plan is
to fit a second reservoir feeding the original one, but in a more
accessible location under the bonnet.

It is not presently an issue.

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Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

Pipe and brake fluid
 

Master cylinder + reservoir is difficult to check, located above the
pedal in the cabin and slave has a reputation of failing, so my plan
is to fit a second reservoir feeding the original one, but in a more
accessible location under the bonnet.

It is not presently an issue.

JOOI do you intend to report this modification to your insuror?
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Robin
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Pipe and brake fluid
 

Robin wrote:
Master cylinder + reservoir is difficult to check, located above the
pedal in the cabin and slave has a reputation of failing, so my plan
is to fit a second reservoir feeding the original one, but in a more
accessible location under the bonnet.

It is not presently an issue.

JOOI do you intend to report this modification to your insuror?

Would you need to?

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Adam

Pipe and brake fluid
 

JOOI do you intend to report this modification to your insuror?

Would you need to?

Most insurance companies require you to tell them about any
modifications or non-standard accessories. They often exclude from this
sound equipment and immobilisers. OTOH they may well want to know about
DVD players and satnavs (which affect eg the risks of theft from the
car). If you don't tell them they may not be able to deny a claim (if
the claim has nothign to do with the modification). But IIRC the
general principle of insurance is "utmost good faith" and this applies
before and after the contract - in other words you have a duty to tell
them about anything which might affect the risks they have insured.

I don't know enough about cars to say what if any effect a secondary
reserve for clutch fluid might have on risks. It did occur to me that a
load more hydraulkic fluid under the bonnet where it gets warm (at
least) and where, if it leaks, it can hit really hot metal might just
possibly be seen as an additional risk :)
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Robin
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Pipe and brake fluid
 

On Mon, 1 Oct 2012 11:17:14 +0100, "Gazz" wrote:

Someone on the bike group did this not long ago, used some small bore hose
he found in the garage,

No, he didn't. He used some hose he bought new as suitable for clutch
and brake fluid.

next day the hose was 'sweating' brake fluid,

Pipe and brake fluid
 

On Mon, 1 Oct 2012 20:33:45 +0100, "Robin" wrote:

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Pipe and brake fluid
 

On Mon, 01 Oct 2012 14:24:57 +0100, Harry Bloomfield
wrote:

Master cylinder + reservoir is difficult to check, located above the
pedal in the cabin and slave has a reputation of failing, so my plan is
to fit a second reservoir feeding the original one, but in a more
accessible location under the bonnet.

It is not presently an issue.

That is a really strange arrangement. I can't recall ever seeing a hydraulic
reservoir in any production vehicle passenger compartment.

Remote reservoirs on competition vehicles are usually connected with braided
'aeroquip' type hose with threaded end fittings and that is what I would choose
but I would expect a silicone based hose (think exhaust hose from a model shop)
to be suitable for a glycol based DOT 3 / 4 fluid. Getting a correctly sized
hose clip could be more of an issue.

If you want to buy 'the real thing'

"Brake fluid hose"

http://www.thinkauto.com/acatalog/On...hoses_123.html

(no connection except as an *occasionally* satisfied customer)


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Pipe and brake fluid
 

"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
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On Mon, 1 Oct 2012 11:17:14 +0100, "Gazz" wrote:

Someone on the bike group did this not long ago, used some small bore hose
he found in the garage,

No, he didn't. He used some hose he bought new as suitable for clutch
and brake fluid.

oh, ****, sorry mate, my brain is past it's use by date,

i remember people thought he was using it on the pressure side, and it went
down hill from there.

Pipe and brake fluid
 

Master cylinder + reservoir is difficult to check, located above the
pedal in the cabin

That is a really strange arrangement. I can't recall ever seeing a
hydraulic
reservoir in any production vehicle passenger compartment.

do forward control vans count??
the VW LT i had, whilst it had a cable operated clutch, the brake master
cylinders resovoir was mounted inside the dash board, you lifted a flap on
the top of the dash up to get at it,

i recall the brakes were a ******* to bleed, so i had a garage use their
pressure bleeder, only the seal on their cap wasnt that good, and it ****ed
half as much brake fluid out as it did into the brake system.... of course
this ended up in the passengers footwell.

Pipe and brake fluid
 

Robin wrote:
JOOI do you intend to report this modification to your insuror?

Would you need to?

Most insurance companies require you to tell them about any
modifications or non-standard accessories. They often exclude from
this sound equipment and immobilisers. OTOH they may well want to
know about DVD players and satnavs (which affect eg the risks of
theft from the car). If you don't tell them they may not be able to
deny a claim (if the claim has nothign to do with the modification). But
IIRC the general principle of insurance is "utmost good faith"
and this applies before and after the contract - in other words you
have a duty to tell them about anything which might affect the risks
they have insured.
I don't know enough about cars to say what if any effect a secondary
reserve for clutch fluid might have on risks. It did occur to me
that a load more hydraulkic fluid under the bonnet where it gets warm
(at least) and where, if it leaks, it can hit really hot metal might
just possibly be seen as an additional risk :)

I never told them when I swapped my MKII Escort engine from a 1.3 to a
1.6:-)

It's the definition of a modification that I was interested in. When I
insure the van I am always asked if it has racking or shelving. I don't, but
apparantly it is cheaper to insure the van if it had them!!!

I am always asked when insuring the van about sign writing on the van. I
often use magnetic signs so I just say "none".

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Adam