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On 01/10/2012 12:32, djornsk wrote:
On 01/10/2012 07:40, polygonum wrote: On 01/10/2012 07:35, djornsk wrote: On 30/09/2012 21:03, John Rumm wrote: On 30/09/2012 16:24, Bill wrote: In message , Phil L writes djc wrote: You are a troll AICMFP He's on diybanter, so it';s unlikely, any troll worth their salt would have a news account. FWIW, the picture, as with all diybanter attachments, is ****e, mostly just a black box with a few highlights of paler shading here and there, tiny and with virtually no detail...message to the op, take another picture, use the flash, and upload it to tinypic Shows a perfectly good picture of a gas meter to me, so good you can even read the serial number. I would suggest to the OP that it is the responsibility of his supplier to work on the meter. Are domestic gas fitters allowed to work on a meter? Let alone a DiYer that seems to be having problems with a simple task. I imagined their responsibility only began after the meter. Could anyone clarify? While I doubt even a gas safe registered warm body is "allowed" to relocate the meter, they are allowed to temporarily disconnect it and reattach it. (sometimes easier to take the whole thing off (and cover up its ports) prior to working on the consumers gas supply than using a blanking disk etc) We had a meter moved recently and the gas fitter pointed out an endorsement on his Corgi ID which meant that he was authorised to carry out meter work. j Not meaning to be pedantic as such, but are you saying Corgi as quick shorthand? Or do you really mean Corgi? In which case, I thought that all the authorisations were through Gas Safe now? I'm sorry I stated corgi without thinking, it must have been gas safe because this was less than a year ago. I believe he was there as a subcontractor to the company which replaced and re-routed the exterior underground pipe. j Thanks - clarified and makes sense. -- Rod |
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On Sunday, September 30, 2012 5:08:04 PM UTC+1, michael adams wrote:
"Phil L" wrote in message ... djc wrote: You are a troll AICMFP He's on diybanter, so it';s unlikely, any troll worth their salt would have a news account. Actually diybanter would be an ideal site to troll, as most of them wouldn't know what a troll was. Many of the vomit forums /vomit I've read seem to have their fair share of them. As to the original question, presumably to move a gas meter you'd need to disconnect the incoming supply pipe to the meter, which as a DIY'er you'd have means of readily closing it off. Which could prove interesting, for the neighbours as well, even for non-smokers. michael adams When we had ours moved they shut off the gas supply by clamping the plastic pipe flat! Robert Laws |
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On 01/10/12 12:52, RobertL wrote:
On Sunday, September 30, 2012 5:08:04 PM UTC+1, michael adams wrote: "Phil L" wrote in message ... djc wrote: You are a troll AICMFP He's on diybanter, so it';s unlikely, any troll worth their salt would have a news account. Actually diybanter would be an ideal site to troll, as most of them wouldn't know what a troll was. Many of the vomit forums /vomit I've read seem to have their fair share of them. As to the original question, presumably to move a gas meter you'd need to disconnect the incoming supply pipe to the meter, which as a DIY'er you'd have means of readily closing it off. Which could prove interesting, for the neighbours as well, even for non-smokers. michael adams When we had ours moved they shut off the gas supply by clamping the plastic pipe flat! Did that to the big new main they laid down the street here a few years ago. I suppose it must be designed for such stress. As to the original post, I still smell Troll. If anyone wanted to rattle the cage here, diybanter would be the perfect place to post anonymously and the sit back. -- djc |
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wow.. so much hatred...
all i wanna know is "is it a normal thread" and just tight as ****. i know how to undo nuts... just never undone a nut on a gas meter before. anyone wanna just give me a yes or no answer. |
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On 01/10/2012 09:38, Bill Wright wrote:
John Rumm wrote: It is quite possible to know how to undo a nut and yet not be able to do it! It is quite possible to know in principle how to undo a nut and yet not be able to undo a particular one. Maybe that's where the extra knowledge gained from experience might help. Or a larger hammer / longer spanner ;-) -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 01/10/2012 12:08, R D S wrote:
On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 20:13:04 +0100, Nick Odell wrote: It's the difference between a reliable job and the possibility of this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-11671916 I moved my boiler recently and being the worrier that I am I have to keep testing it so that I don't fear blowing the street up. In order for an explosion like in the link above, I presume it would be impossible for enough gas to leak into an occupied house without an overpowering stink. IIRC you need between 5% and 15% concentration to be in the explosive range... so that is quite a high volume of gas when you think about the volume of a typical room. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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"thevilla1" wrote in message ... wow.. so much hatred... all i wanna know is "is it a normal thread" and just tight as ****. i know how to undo nuts... just never undone a nut on a gas meter before. anyone wanna just give me a yes or no answer. If you need to ask, then you need to get an approve gas fitter to do the work for you. If you mess up your electrics then the worst that can happen is that you electrocute yourself and if you're really unlucky members of your family as well. Fatalities maybe, but usually no big damages to pay to 3rd parties. And all solved by switching off the supply at the mains If you mess up the water then the worst that can happen is that you flood yourself out, and if in a flat the people downstairs. No fatalities but ruined carpets and furniture and damages to pay to anyone downstairs and solved by switching off the stop tap. If you don't know what you're doing and mess up the gas, potentially you could kill yourself and your family and blow up half the street. With lots of damages to be paid out of your estate if there's anything left. And all to save a few quid. michael adams .... +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- thevilla1 |
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michael adams wrote:
"thevilla1" wrote in message ... wow.. so much hatred... all i wanna know is "is it a normal thread" and just tight as ****. i know how to undo nuts... just never undone a nut on a gas meter before. anyone wanna just give me a yes or no answer. If you need to ask, then you need to get an approve gas fitter to do the work for you. True. It is so easy to get it wrong with gas. The faulty work might not show up until a few years after you did it, too. If you don't know what you're doing and mess up the gas, potentially you could kill yourself and your family and blow up half the street. With lots of damages to be paid out of your estate if there's anything left. And all to save a few quid. Which is the reason I'll happily work on a Calor Gas installation in a caravan, but for *any* other gas installation, I get a man in. Then it's *his* liability insurance that gets hit if he gets it wrong. -- Tciao for Now! John. |
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On 01/10/2012 13:38, thevilla1 wrote:
wow.. so much hatred... all i wanna know is "is it a normal thread" and just tight as ****. Its a normal thread... -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On Mon, 01 Oct 2012 14:00:49 +0100, John Rumm
wrote: It is quite possible to know in principle how to undo a nut and yet not be able to undo a particular one. Maybe that's where the extra knowledge gained from experience might help. Or a larger hammer / longer spanner ;-) Obviously, angle grinder. Especially in this case. |
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I was under the impression that if you wanted a meter moved it had to be
done by your gas supplier. Same as an electric meter. -- *No hand signals. Driver on Viagra* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
I was under the impression that if you wanted a meter moved it had to be done by your gas supplier. Same as an electric meter. You are right. That doesnt stop people taking a chance doing it themselves, I've seen loads of installations that are unsafe through people moving their supplies. -- To reply by e-mail, change the ' + ' to 'plus'. |
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
I was under the impression that if you wanted a meter moved it had to be done by your gas supplier. Same as an electric meter. I for sure moved my meter. Had to. The house itw as attached to wasn't there.. Never actually disconnected it though. The new house was designed so it would go back more or less in te same place. Did get the leccy man in to replace the seal after it was reconnected to the new CU, though. Had to pull the fuse to do that. -- Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc-ra-cy) €“ a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers. |
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On 02/10/2012 11:59, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote: I was under the impression that if you wanted a meter moved it had to be done by your gas supplier. Same as an electric meter. I for sure moved my meter. Had to. The house itw as attached to wasn't there.. Never actually disconnected it though. The new house was designed so it would go back more or less in te same place. Did get the leccy man in to replace the seal after it was reconnected to the new CU, though. Had to pull the fuse to do that. It could be a novel defence to "did you move that meter?", "no, still in the same place, I just shifted the street over 3'". -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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John Rumm wrote:
On 02/10/2012 11:59, The Natural Philosopher wrote: Dave Plowman (News) wrote: I was under the impression that if you wanted a meter moved it had to be done by your gas supplier. Same as an electric meter. I for sure moved my meter. Had to. The house itw as attached to wasn't there.. Never actually disconnected it though. The new house was designed so it would go back more or less in te same place. Did get the leccy man in to replace the seal after it was reconnected to the new CU, though. Had to pull the fuse to do that. It could be a novel defence to "did you move that meter?", "no, still in the same place, I just shifted the street over 3'". I think the thing is that its dangerous to move a meter without disconnecting the upstream feed IF you have to disconnect it from the incoming and its also a neat way to bypass the meter.. -- Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc-ra-cy) €“ a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers. |
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The Natural Philosopher wrote: I was under the impression that if you wanted a meter moved it had to be done by your gas supplier. Same as an electric meter. I for sure moved my meter. Had to. The house itw as attached to wasn't there.. Never actually disconnected it though. When I bought this place, it was on two electric supplies. Had a week to get it onto one - requirement of the BS. Leccy board couldn't come for two weeks so I removed the offending one myself. When they did come to do it just handed it over. Got a bit of a look from the chap. ;-) Luckily, the gas board did come in that week. -- *A person who smiles in the face of adversity probably has a scapegoat * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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