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polygonum October 1st 12 12:40 PM

moving gas meter
 
On 01/10/2012 12:32, djornsk wrote:
On 01/10/2012 07:40, polygonum wrote:
On 01/10/2012 07:35, djornsk wrote:
On 30/09/2012 21:03, John Rumm wrote:
On 30/09/2012 16:24, Bill wrote:
In message , Phil L
writes
djc wrote:
You are a troll AICMFP


He's on diybanter, so it';s unlikely, any troll worth their salt
would
have
a news account.

FWIW, the picture, as with all diybanter attachments, is ****e,
mostly
just
a black box with a few highlights of paler shading here and there,
tiny and
with virtually no detail...message to the op, take another picture,
use the
flash, and upload it to tinypic


Shows a perfectly good picture of a gas meter to me, so good you can
even read the serial number.

I would suggest to the OP that it is the responsibility of his
supplier
to work on the meter. Are domestic gas fitters allowed to work on a
meter? Let alone a DiYer that seems to be having problems with a
simple
task. I imagined their responsibility only began after the meter.
Could
anyone clarify?

While I doubt even a gas safe registered warm body is "allowed" to
relocate the meter, they are allowed to temporarily disconnect it and
reattach it. (sometimes easier to take the whole thing off (and
cover up
its ports) prior to working on the consumers gas supply than using a
blanking disk etc)



We had a meter moved recently and the gas fitter pointed out an
endorsement on his Corgi ID which meant that he was authorised to carry
out meter work.

j


Not meaning to be pedantic as such, but are you saying Corgi as quick
shorthand? Or do you really mean Corgi? In which case, I thought that
all the authorisations were through Gas Safe now?


I'm sorry I stated corgi without thinking, it must have been gas safe
because this was less than a year ago. I believe he was there as a
subcontractor to the company which replaced and re-routed the exterior
underground pipe.

j


Thanks - clarified and makes sense.

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Rod

RobertL October 1st 12 12:52 PM

moving gas meter
 
On Sunday, September 30, 2012 5:08:04 PM UTC+1, michael adams wrote:
"Phil L" wrote in message ... djc wrote: You are a troll AICMFP He's on diybanter, so it';s unlikely, any troll worth their salt would have a news account. Actually diybanter would be an ideal site to troll, as most of them wouldn't know what a troll was. Many of the vomit forums /vomit I've read seem to have their fair share of them. As to the original question, presumably to move a gas meter you'd need to disconnect the incoming supply pipe to the meter, which as a DIY'er you'd have means of readily closing it off. Which could prove interesting, for the neighbours as well, even for non-smokers. michael adams


When we had ours moved they shut off the gas supply by clamping the plastic pipe flat!

Robert Laws

djc October 1st 12 01:19 PM

moving gas meter
 
On 01/10/12 12:52, RobertL wrote:
On Sunday, September 30, 2012 5:08:04 PM UTC+1, michael adams wrote:
"Phil L" wrote in message ... djc wrote: You are a troll AICMFP He's on diybanter, so it';s unlikely, any troll worth their salt would have a news account. Actually diybanter would be an ideal site to troll, as most of them wouldn't know what a troll was. Many of the vomit forums /vomit I've read seem to have their fair share of them. As to the original question, presumably to move a gas meter you'd need to disconnect the incoming supply pipe to the meter, which as a DIY'er you'd have means of readily closing it off. Which could prove interesting, for the neighbours as well, even for non-smokers. michael adams


When we had ours moved they shut off the gas supply by clamping the plastic pipe flat!



Did that to the big new main they laid down the street here a few years
ago. I suppose it must be designed for such stress.

As to the original post, I still smell Troll. If anyone wanted to rattle
the cage here, diybanter would be the perfect place to post anonymously
and the sit back.


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thevilla1 October 1st 12 01:38 PM

wow.. so much hatred...

all i wanna know is "is it a normal thread" and just tight as ****.

i know how to undo nuts... just never undone a nut on a gas meter before.

anyone wanna just give me a yes or no answer.

John Rumm October 1st 12 02:00 PM

moving gas meter
 
On 01/10/2012 09:38, Bill Wright wrote:
John Rumm wrote:



It is quite possible to know how to undo a nut and yet not be able to
do it!


It is quite possible to know in principle how to undo a nut and yet not
be able to undo a particular one. Maybe that's where the extra knowledge
gained from experience might help.


Or a larger hammer / longer spanner ;-)


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John Rumm October 1st 12 02:06 PM

moving gas meter
 
On 01/10/2012 12:08, R D S wrote:
On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 20:13:04 +0100, Nick Odell wrote:

It's the difference between a reliable job and the possibility of
this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-11671916



I moved my boiler recently and being the worrier that I am I have to keep
testing it so that I don't fear blowing the street up.

In order for an explosion like in the link above, I presume it would be
impossible for enough gas to leak into an occupied house without an
overpowering stink.


IIRC you need between 5% and 15% concentration to be in the explosive
range... so that is quite a high volume of gas when you think about the
volume of a typical room.


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michael adams[_6_] October 1st 12 04:07 PM

moving gas meter
 

"thevilla1" wrote in message
...

wow.. so much hatred...

all i wanna know is "is it a normal thread" and just tight as ****.

i know how to undo nuts... just never undone a nut on a gas meter
before.

anyone wanna just give me a yes or no answer.


If you need to ask, then you need to get an approve gas fitter to
do the work for you.

If you mess up your electrics then the worst that can happen is that
you electrocute yourself and if you're really unlucky members
of your family as well. Fatalities maybe, but usually no big damages
to pay to 3rd parties. And all solved by switching off the supply
at the mains

If you mess up the water then the worst that can happen is that
you flood yourself out, and if in a flat the people downstairs.
No fatalities but ruined carpets and furniture and damages to
pay to anyone downstairs and solved by switching off the stop tap.

If you don't know what you're doing and mess up the gas, potentially
you could kill yourself and your family and blow up half the street.
With lots of damages to be paid out of your estate if there's anything
left. And all to save a few quid.



michael adams

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John Williamson October 1st 12 04:14 PM

moving gas meter
 
michael adams wrote:
"thevilla1" wrote in message
...
wow.. so much hatred...

all i wanna know is "is it a normal thread" and just tight as ****.

i know how to undo nuts... just never undone a nut on a gas meter
before.

anyone wanna just give me a yes or no answer.


If you need to ask, then you need to get an approve gas fitter to
do the work for you.

True. It is so easy to get it wrong with gas. The faulty work might not
show up until a few years after you did it, too.

If you don't know what you're doing and mess up the gas, potentially
you could kill yourself and your family and blow up half the street.
With lots of damages to be paid out of your estate if there's anything
left. And all to save a few quid.

Which is the reason I'll happily work on a Calor Gas installation in a
caravan, but for *any* other gas installation, I get a man in. Then it's
*his* liability insurance that gets hit if he gets it wrong.

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Tciao for Now!

John.

John Rumm October 1st 12 04:29 PM

moving gas meter
 
On 01/10/2012 13:38, thevilla1 wrote:
wow.. so much hatred...

all i wanna know is "is it a normal thread" and just tight as ****.


Its a normal thread...



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Grimly Curmudgeon[_3_] October 2nd 12 04:09 AM

moving gas meter
 
On Mon, 01 Oct 2012 14:00:49 +0100, John Rumm
wrote:

It is quite possible to know in principle how to undo a nut and yet not
be able to undo a particular one. Maybe that's where the extra knowledge
gained from experience might help.


Or a larger hammer / longer spanner ;-)


Obviously, angle grinder.
Especially in this case.

Dave Plowman (News) October 2nd 12 10:57 AM

moving gas meter
 
I was under the impression that if you wanted a meter moved it had to be
done by your gas supplier. Same as an electric meter.

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A.Lee October 2nd 12 11:16 AM

moving gas meter
 
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

I was under the impression that if you wanted a meter moved it had to be
done by your gas supplier. Same as an electric meter.


You are right.
That doesnt stop people taking a chance doing it themselves, I've seen
loads of installations that are unsafe through people moving their
supplies.
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The Natural Philosopher[_2_] October 2nd 12 11:59 AM

moving gas meter
 
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
I was under the impression that if you wanted a meter moved it had to be
done by your gas supplier. Same as an electric meter.

I for sure moved my meter.

Had to. The house itw as attached to wasn't there..

Never actually disconnected it though.

The new house was designed so it would go back more or less in te same
place.

Did get the leccy man in to replace the seal after it was reconnected to
the new CU, though. Had to pull the fuse to do that.


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rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a
diminishing number of producers.

John Rumm October 2nd 12 12:24 PM

moving gas meter
 
On 02/10/2012 11:59, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
I was under the impression that if you wanted a meter moved it had to be
done by your gas supplier. Same as an electric meter.

I for sure moved my meter.

Had to. The house itw as attached to wasn't there..

Never actually disconnected it though.

The new house was designed so it would go back more or less in te same
place.

Did get the leccy man in to replace the seal after it was reconnected to
the new CU, though. Had to pull the fuse to do that.


It could be a novel defence to "did you move that meter?", "no, still in
the same place, I just shifted the street over 3'".


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John.

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The Natural Philosopher[_2_] October 2nd 12 12:35 PM

moving gas meter
 
John Rumm wrote:
On 02/10/2012 11:59, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
I was under the impression that if you wanted a meter moved it had to be
done by your gas supplier. Same as an electric meter.

I for sure moved my meter.

Had to. The house itw as attached to wasn't there..

Never actually disconnected it though.

The new house was designed so it would go back more or less in te same
place.

Did get the leccy man in to replace the seal after it was reconnected to
the new CU, though. Had to pull the fuse to do that.


It could be a novel defence to "did you move that meter?", "no, still in
the same place, I just shifted the street over 3'".


I think the thing is that its dangerous to move a meter without
disconnecting the upstream feed IF you have to disconnect it from the
incoming and its also a neat way to bypass the meter..


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lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the
members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are
rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a
diminishing number of producers.

Dave Plowman (News) October 2nd 12 01:51 PM

moving gas meter
 
In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
I was under the impression that if you wanted a meter moved it had to be
done by your gas supplier. Same as an electric meter.

I for sure moved my meter.


Had to. The house itw as attached to wasn't there..


Never actually disconnected it though.


When I bought this place, it was on two electric supplies. Had a week to
get it onto one - requirement of the BS. Leccy board couldn't come for two
weeks so I removed the offending one myself. When they did come to do it
just handed it over. Got a bit of a look from the chap. ;-)

Luckily, the gas board did come in that week.

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