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Will be having some quotes soon for an extension. I am considering asking
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On Sep 2, 6:15*pm, DerbyBorn wrote:
Will be having some quotes soon for an extension. I am considering asking the builders to supply their own toilet to avoid having ours messed up. Any thoughts on the likely cost and how a builder may react? Get in touch with Portaloo. |
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Will be having some quotes soon for an extension. I am considering asking the builders to supply their own toilet to avoid having ours messed up. Any thoughts on the likely cost and how a builder may react? Just get a quote from a portaloo company. If you're in S Yorks a good one is Lizzie's Loos. If you hire the bog the builder can't mark it up. Some builders have their own, but this is unusual. Don't let them erect it near your kitchen or dining room. Best place is downwind of the house. Bill |
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On 02/09/2012 18:15, DerbyBorn wrote:
Will be having some quotes soon for an extension. I am considering asking the builders to supply their own toilet to avoid having ours messed up. Any thoughts on the likely cost and how a builder may react? For a guide to what is available and what it costs: http://www.hireportabletoilets.co.uk/ I suspect that the builder would be very pleased to have an on-site loo. When I have had builders in if they needed a loo and I wasn't in they have had to leave the site and find a public one. Colin Bignell |
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DerbyBorn wrote:
Will be having some quotes soon for an extension. I am considering asking the builders to supply their own toilet to avoid having ours messed up. Any thoughts on the likely cost and how a builder may react? Dunno about the cost, but they are are a requirement at some of the houses I have worked on. Nothing beats having a crap at minus 6 in a portable toilet. It's worse than having one when it is 35 deg. But if you are in the trade then tough ****. The tradesmen have to live by your rules. -- Adam |
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"ARW" wrote in message ... DerbyBorn wrote: Will be having some quotes soon for an extension. I am considering asking the builders to supply their own toilet to avoid having ours messed up. Any thoughts on the likely cost and how a builder may react? Dunno about the cost, but they are are a requirement at some of the houses I have worked on. Nothing beats having a crap at minus 6 in a portable toilet. It's worse than having one when it is 35 deg. But if you are in the trade then tough ****. The tradesmen have to live by your rules. -- Adam The building trade has always been crap. |
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On 02/09/2012 18:15, DerbyBorn wrote: Will be having some quotes soon for an extension. I am considering asking the builders to supply their own toilet to avoid having ours messed up. Any thoughts on the likely cost and how a builder may react? For a guide to what is available and what it costs: http://www.hireportabletoilets.co.uk/ I suspect that the builder would be very pleased to have an on-site loo. When I have had builders in if they needed a loo and I wasn't in they have had to leave the site and find a public one. Not for a **** they wouldn't. -- Adam |
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"ARW" wrote in message ... DerbyBorn wrote: Will be having some quotes soon for an extension. I am considering asking the builders to supply their own toilet to avoid having ours messed up. Any thoughts on the likely cost and how a builder may react? Dunno about the cost, but they are are a requirement at some of the houses I have worked on. Nothing beats having a crap at minus 6 in a portable toilet. It's worse than having one when it is 35 deg. But if you are in the trade then tough ****. The tradesmen have to live by your rules. -- Adam The building trade has always been crap. You mean "treated as crap". -- Adam |
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"ARW" wrote in message ... Mr Pounder wrote: "ARW" wrote in message ... DerbyBorn wrote: Will be having some quotes soon for an extension. I am considering asking the builders to supply their own toilet to avoid having ours messed up. Any thoughts on the likely cost and how a builder may react? Dunno about the cost, but they are are a requirement at some of the houses I have worked on. Nothing beats having a crap at minus 6 in a portable toilet. It's worse than having one when it is 35 deg. But if you are in the trade then tough ****. The tradesmen have to live by your rules. -- Adam The building trade has always been crap. You mean "treated as crap". -- Adam Yes. And tradesmen accept it. I "roughed in" central heating systems many years ago in houses under construction and came close to freezing to death. The foreman once caught me asleep sat on rolls of lagging. I had the gas bottle going to keep warm. If you needed a crap, you had a crap at the back of the site. Errr, I remember shoving empty milk bottles and just about everything down the cavity wall. |
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DerbyBorn wrote:
Will be having some quotes soon for an extension. I am considering asking the builders to supply their own toilet to avoid having ours messed up. Any thoughts on the likely cost and how a builder may react? If you wish the builders to supply their own toilet facilites then tell them that as part of the contract preambles (written or oral and expect them to build the cost of supplying, maintaining and emptying the portaloo into the contract (they may even have one or two as part of their basic equipment) - but remember, you must also have sufficient space in your garden for them to accommodate the portable loo. As for how the "builder may react" - they now have to provide such facilities under the H&S regulations, and if they object, look for another builder. BTW, that 'law' has been enacted (IIRC) since the mid 90s, because of an incident at the Army Apprentices College at Beachley near Chepstow, where a female out walking, came across a male employee of McAlpine's (who were renovating the college at the time) having a 'dump' behind a hedge because no toilet facilities had been arranged at his particular place of work by Mac's, and one hell of a stink was raised about it by the press, public and local politicians - talk about the **** flying about then.... |
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On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 17:15:47 GMT, DerbyBorn wrote:
Will be having some quotes soon for an extension. I am considering asking the builders to supply their own toilet to avoid having ours messed up. Any thoughts on the likely cost and how a builder may react? With our builders last year if we hadn't allowed the use of one of the downstairs loos for them they would have provided a "portaloo" and charged for it... I suspect these days a portaloo is required under H&S, Notice how they pop up at roadworks that are there for a few days. All new build sites have at least one. -- Cheers Dave. |
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DerbyBorn wrote:
Will be having some quotes soon for an extension. I am considering asking the builders to supply their own toilet to avoid having ours messed up. Any thoughts on the likely cost and how a builder may react? It doesn't matter what it will cost because the builder won't be paying for it, you will. The builder will probably be happy to have somewhere to have a **** without waiting for you to go out so he can do it in your gulley or behind your shed. |
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Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 17:15:47 GMT, DerbyBorn wrote: Will be having some quotes soon for an extension. I am considering asking the builders to supply their own toilet to avoid having ours messed up. Any thoughts on the likely cost and how a builder may react? With our builders last year if we hadn't allowed the use of one of the downstairs loos for them they would have provided a "portaloo" and charged for it... I suspect these days a portaloo is required under H&S, Notice how they pop up at roadworks that are there for a few days. All new build sites have at least one. To be fair you cannot have a **** in a new build until the plumbers have done the second fix can you? -- Adam |
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DerbyBorn wrote: Will be having some quotes soon for an extension. I am considering asking the builders to supply their own toilet to avoid having ours messed up. Any thoughts on the likely cost and how a builder may react? It doesn't matter what it will cost because the builder won't be paying for it, you will. The builder will probably be happy to have somewhere to have a **** without waiting for you to go out so he can do it in your gulley or behind your shed. Trust me, it's when you need a **** that you need a toilet. A bloke can have a **** anywhere they want to and get away with it. -- Adam |
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DerbyBorn wrote: Will be having some quotes soon for an extension. I am considering asking the builders to supply their own toilet to avoid having ours messed up. Any thoughts on the likely cost and how a builder may react? If you wish the builders to supply their own toilet facilites then tell them that as part of the contract preambles (written or oral and expect them to build the cost of supplying, maintaining and emptying the portaloo into the contract (they may even have one or two as part of their basic equipment) - but remember, you must also have sufficient space in your garden for them to accommodate the portable loo. Considering the garden will need to accommodate an extention, a load of builders arse and a skip then a 5 foot by 5 foot ****ter should be no problem:-) -- Adam |
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On Sun, 2 Sep 2012 20:19:06 +0100, ARW wrote:
To be fair you cannot have a **** in a new build until the plumbers have done the second fix can you? Thought thats what cavity walls were for? -- Cheers Dave. |
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Bill Wright wrote:
DerbyBorn wrote: Will be having some quotes soon for an extension. I am considering asking the builders to supply their own toilet to avoid having ours messed up. Any thoughts on the likely cost and how a builder may react? Just get a quote from a portaloo company. If you're in S Yorks a good one is Lizzie's Loos. If you hire the bog the builder can't mark it up. Some builders have their own, but this is unusual. Don't let them erect it near your kitchen or dining room. Best place is downwind of the house. You can usually just shove then to a new place if stood on concrete. This is best done when an apprentice is in the toilet and you have strapped the door closed with a rope. Rocking the toilet as you move it is an optional extra if the apprentice is useless. -- Adam |
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On Sun, 2 Sep 2012 20:19:06 +0100, ARW wrote: To be fair you cannot have a **** in a new build until the plumbers have done the second fix can you? Thought thats what cavity walls were for? -- Adam |
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On Sun, 2 Sep 2012 20:19:06 +0100, ARW wrote: To be fair you cannot have a **** in a new build until the plumbers have done the second fix can you? Thought thats what cavity walls were for? I have no access to them when 1st fixing the electrics. -- Adam |
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Phil L wrote: DerbyBorn wrote: Will be having some quotes soon for an extension. I am considering asking the builders to supply their own toilet to avoid having ours messed up. Any thoughts on the likely cost and how a builder may react? It doesn't matter what it will cost because the builder won't be paying for it, you will. The builder will probably be happy to have somewhere to have a **** without waiting for you to go out so he can do it in your gulley or behind your shed. Trust me, it's when you need a **** that you need a toilet. A bloke can have a **** anywhere they want to and get away with it. Preaching to the choir mate, I won't tell you all the places I've shat, but some of them are worth a mention. Master bedroom of a 6 bed detatched, into a cement bag and launched out the window...the house had no windows in nor plaster on the walls as it was a new build, and I was the only person on site. Back of several vans, into numerous recepticles; bags, buckets, chippy cartons etc and disposed of in the usual manner - lobbed in a bus stop bin. In someone's garage into a bucket, then poured into open manhole. When you've gotta go, you've gotta go. Cue the 'you could have waited until you got home' brigade, and my answer is that I was lucky to make it to the empty cement bag nevermind the staircase - my guts give me ten seconds to find somewhere to curl one off and then it's on show |
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ARW wrote:
Unbeliever wrote: DerbyBorn wrote: Will be having some quotes soon for an extension. I am considering asking the builders to supply their own toilet to avoid having ours messed up. Any thoughts on the likely cost and how a builder may react? If you wish the builders to supply their own toilet facilites then tell them that as part of the contract preambles (written or oral and expect them to build the cost of supplying, maintaining and emptying the portaloo into the contract (they may even have one or two as part of their basic equipment) - but remember, you must also have sufficient space in your garden for them to accommodate the portable loo. Considering the garden will need to accommodate an extention, a load of builders arse and a skip then a 5 foot by 5 foot ****ter should be no problem:-) Bloody hell ARW, you Yorkies must have big arses if you need a 5 foot square crapper! vbg |
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Back of several vans, into numerous recepticles; bags, buckets, chippy cartons 2builders1carton? |
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Dave Liquorice wrote: On Sun, 2 Sep 2012 20:19:06 +0100, ARW wrote: To be fair you cannot have a **** in a new build until the plumbers have done the second fix can you? Thought thats what cavity walls were for? I have no access to them when 1st fixing the electrics. What, no 'yesterdays' newspapers to wrap the crap in and stuff it in any odd cavity/attic/corner - tell you are a young whippersnapper ARW. And *NEVER* drink out of any pop bottle you find with liquid in! :-) |
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[Default] On Sun, 2 Sep 2012 18:40:22 +0100, a certain chimpanzee,
"ARW" , randomly hit the keyboard and wrote: Nightjar wrote: I suspect that the builder would be very pleased to have an on-site loo. When I have had builders in if they needed a loo and I wasn't in they have had to leave the site and find a public one. Not for a **** they wouldn't. Around here, not for any reason they wouldn't. As I've said before, that's what the architect's plans get used for. And when you say, "leave the site", they may venture as far as next door's garden (usually the neighbour who's most likely to ring The Council). -- Hugo Nebula "If no-one on the internet wants a piece of this, just how far from the pack have I strayed"? |
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Phil L wrote:
ARW wrote: Phil L wrote: DerbyBorn wrote: Will be having some quotes soon for an extension. I am considering asking the builders to supply their own toilet to avoid having ours messed up. Any thoughts on the likely cost and how a builder may react? It doesn't matter what it will cost because the builder won't be paying for it, you will. The builder will probably be happy to have somewhere to have a **** without waiting for you to go out so he can do it in your gulley or behind your shed. Trust me, it's when you need a **** that you need a toilet. A bloke can have a **** anywhere they want to and get away with it. Preaching to the choir mate, I won't tell you all the places I've shat, but some of them are worth a mention. Master bedroom of a 6 bed detatched, into a cement bag and launched out the window...the house had no windows in nor plaster on the walls as it was a new build, and I was the only person on site. Back of several vans, into numerous recepticles; bags, buckets, chippy cartons etc and disposed of in the usual manner - lobbed in a bus stop bin. In someone's garage into a bucket, then poured into open manhole. When you've gotta go, you've gotta go. Cue the 'you could have waited until you got home' brigade, and my answer is that I was lucky to make it to the empty cement bag nevermind the staircase - my guts give me ten seconds to find somewhere to curl one off and then it's on show Nice but true. And of course there is the time I had a **** over a low garden wall in a cul de sac on the way home from the pub. My mate stood at the end of the cul de sac and kept an eye out for passing police etc. I wiped my arse with my underpants and put them into the nearest wheelie bin. When you've gotta go, you've gotta go. And let's tell people how it really is on some sites. One day on a site with no toilet facilities the site foreman ran to the kitchen sink dropped his dungarees and had a **** in the kitchen sink. He failed to get his dungarees out of the way in time and he managed to soil them. Was he embarrassed? Was he hell. He spent most of the day showing them off to other tradesmen. -- Adam |
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Dave Liquorice wrote: On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 17:15:47 GMT, DerbyBorn wrote: Will be having some quotes soon for an extension. I am considering asking the builders to supply their own toilet to avoid having ours messed up. Any thoughts on the likely cost and how a builder may react? With our builders last year if we hadn't allowed the use of one of the downstairs loos for them they would have provided a "portaloo" and charged for it... I suspect these days a portaloo is required under H&S, Notice how they pop up at roadworks that are there for a few days. All new build sites have at least one. To be fair you cannot have a **** in a new build until the plumbers have done the second fix can you? Course you can. What's a couple of scaffold poles a pile of bricks and an open manhole cover for? Theres always a hose somewhere as well -- Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc-ra-cy) €“ a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers. |
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On 02/09/2012 18:40, ARW wrote:
Nightjar wrote: On 02/09/2012 18:15, DerbyBorn wrote: Will be having some quotes soon for an extension. I am considering asking the builders to supply their own toilet to avoid having ours messed up. Any thoughts on the likely cost and how a builder may react? For a guide to what is available and what it costs: http://www.hireportabletoilets.co.uk/ I suspect that the builder would be very pleased to have an on-site loo. When I have had builders in if they needed a loo and I wasn't in they have had to leave the site and find a public one. Not for a **** they wouldn't. Desmond & I sing The Dambusters theme as a warning if someone is approaching :-) -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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The Medway Handyman writes: On 02/09/2012 18:40, ARW wrote: Nightjar wrote: I suspect that the builder would be very pleased to have an on-site loo. When I have had builders in if they needed a loo and I wasn't in they have had to leave the site and find a public one. Not for a **** they wouldn't. Desmond Sorry, but everytime you mention him, an image of Joel Fry (Darren) springs into my mind... http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcthree/Joel_512.jpg & I sing The Dambusters theme as a warning if someone is approaching :-) -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
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On 02/09/2012 18:40, ARW wrote:
Nightjar wrote: On 02/09/2012 18:15, DerbyBorn wrote: Will be having some quotes soon for an extension. I am considering asking the builders to supply their own toilet to avoid having ours messed up. Any thoughts on the likely cost and how a builder may react? For a guide to what is available and what it costs: http://www.hireportabletoilets.co.uk/ I suspect that the builder would be very pleased to have an on-site loo. When I have had builders in if they needed a loo and I wasn't in they have had to leave the site and find a public one. Not for a **** they wouldn't. I suspect the female member of the team did. Colin Bignell |
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"DerbyBorn" wrote in message 2.236... Will be having some quotes soon for an extension. I am considering asking the builders to supply their own toilet to avoid having ours messed up. Any thoughts on the likely cost and how a builder may react? Just to note that we let our builders use our toilet. Not that they are likely to mess it up too much, and it is going in the skip later on when the new bathroom is plumbed in. Likewise carpets etc. so there is no issue with mucky boots. They are being very organised in keeping toilet facilities available throughout the build (for our benefit) as we are replacing all the main drainage in the house which could cause problems if done in the wrong order. We are not bothered if they take a dump - everyone has to - and why make life difficult. However I suspect they may not do very often, if at all. Then again we are working aslongside them part of most days and they are almosr part of the family :-) More of an issue if you have white fluffy carpets and the builders can't aim properly. They will hopefully soon have a choice of two new toilets as the new drainage has gone in and we are starting to put things back together inside the old part of the house. Cheers Dave R -- No plan survives contact with the enemy. [Not even bunny] Helmuth von Moltke the Elder (\__/) (='.'=) (")_(") |
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in 1158371 20120902 181547 DerbyBorn wrote:
Will be having some quotes soon for an extension. I am considering asking the builders to supply their own toilet to avoid having ours messed up. Any thoughts on the likely cost and how a builder may react? My son just had an extension built and the builders provided their own loo. |
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Its not the toilet they mess up, its the carpet from the door they use to
the toilet! Brian -- -- From the sofa of Brian Gaff - Blind user, so no pictures please! "DerbyBorn" wrote in message 2.236... Will be having some quotes soon for an extension. I am considering asking the builders to supply their own toilet to avoid having ours messed up. Any thoughts on the likely cost and how a builder may react? |
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On 02/09/2012 23:40, Owain wrote:
On Sep 2, 10:59 pm, (Andrew Gabriel) wrote: Desmond Sorry, but everytime you mention him, an image of Joel Fry (Darren) springs into my mind... http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcthree/Joel_512.jpg I imagine a cross between Norman Beaton and John Goodman. Owain http://www.akroncleaning.co.uk/about-us/ -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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wrote: I suspect that the builder would be very pleased to have an on-site loo. When I have had builders in if they needed a loo and I wasn't in they have had to leave the site and find a public one. Not for a **** they wouldn't. Desmond & I sing The Dambusters theme as a warning if someone is approaching :-) Or the William Tell overture Diddy dump, diddy dump, diddy dump dump dump... |
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On 03/09/2012 10:57, Owain wrote:
On Sep 3, 8:48 am, The Medway Handyman wrote: I imagine a cross between Norman Beaton and John Goodman. http://www.akroncleaning.co.uk/about-us/ That's a John not a Desmond! Owain He is only known as Desmond when we are decking.... I'm known as Black Hand..... My SIL has helped on a couple and became Double... -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On 02/09/2012 18:41, ARW wrote:
Mr Pounder wrote: "ARW" wrote in message ... DerbyBorn wrote: Will be having some quotes soon for an extension. I am considering asking the builders to supply their own toilet to avoid having ours messed up. Any thoughts on the likely cost and how a builder may react? Dunno about the cost, but they are are a requirement at some of the houses I have worked on. Nothing beats having a crap at minus 6 in a portable toilet. It's worse than having one when it is 35 deg. But if you are in the trade then tough ****. The tradesmen have to live by your rules. -- Adam The building trade has always been crap. You mean "treated as crap". No some are just crap! I know one who decided to buy some properties in France and do them up. He'd been a builder (and done peoples extensions, kitchens etc.) for many years. He cocked up the plumbing (a chauffe eau of hot water and couldn't get any out) and the wiring (one light wouldn't work and another was intermittent). He visited our holiday home 20 miles away and commented on his second visit a few days later how fast we were progressing (DIYers only) and then invited us round to solve his problems! SteveW |
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