http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Su...cs_medal_table


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/...dals/countries

The Aussies are not doing very well:-)


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On Fri, 03 Aug 2012 22:48:13 +0100, ARWadsworth wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Su...cs_medal_table


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/...dals/countries

The Aussies are not doing very well:-)

And whingeing:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-08-0...ing-australia-
on-medal-tally/4176576




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On 8/3/2012 6:03 PM, Tim Streater wrote:

Personally I'd rate us more by achievements in science, engineering,
democracy, exploration, literature, and the English language.

+1

On 03/08/2012 22:48, ARWadsworth wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Su...cs_medal_table


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/...dals/countries

The Aussies are not doing very well:-)



The vainglorious brit who has done **** all himself but wonders if he's
the 'only person feeling proud' is a real object of pity

Jim Newman wrote:
On 03/08/2012 22:48, ARWadsworth wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Su...cs_medal_table


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/...dals/countries

The Aussies are not doing very well:-)



The vainglorious brit who has done **** all himself but wonders if
he's the 'only person feeling proud' is a real object of pity


Nothing positive to post then?


--
Adam

On 03/08/2012 23:40, Jim Newman wrote:
On 03/08/2012 22:48, ARWadsworth wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Su...cs_medal_table


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/...dals/countries

The Aussies are not doing very well:-)



The vainglorious brit who has done **** all himself but wonders if he's
the 'only person feeling proud' is a real object of pity



Is that you Rod?

Tim Streater wrote:
In article ,
"ARWadsworth" wrote:

[snip]

I am, but my pride is rooted in what this country has achieved in
fields other than the sporting, except to the extent that we invented
a number of sports.


Personally I'd rate us more by achievements in science, engineering,
democracy, exploration, literature, and the English language.

Are they Olympic sports?

--
Adam

Bob Eager wrote:
On Fri, 03 Aug 2012 22:48:13 +0100, ARWadsworth wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Su...cs_medal_table


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/...dals/countries

The Aussies are not doing very well:-)

And whingeing:

Is that a sport?

Posh birds favourite wine "Daddy can I go to Ascot?


--
Adam

On 04/08/2012 00:04, ARWadsworth wrote:
Jim Newman wrote:
On 03/08/2012 22:48, ARWadsworth wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Su...cs_medal_table


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/...dals/countries

The Aussies are not doing very well:-)



The vainglorious brit who has done **** all himself but wonders if
he's the 'only person feeling proud' is a real object of pity


Nothing positive to post then?



Do let us know how you personally helped any of the medal winning heroes.

"Jim Newman" wrote in message
...
On 04/08/2012 00:04, ARWadsworth wrote:
Jim Newman wrote:
On 03/08/2012 22:48, ARWadsworth wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Su...cs_medal_table


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/...dals/countries

The Aussies are not doing very well:-)



The vainglorious brit who has done **** all himself but wonders if
he's the 'only person feeling proud' is a real object of pity


Nothing positive to post then?



Do let us know how you personally helped any of the medal winning heroes.

WTF does that have to do with anything?

On 04/08/2012 00:39, brass monkey wrote:
"Jim Newman" wrote in message
...
On 04/08/2012 00:04, ARWadsworth wrote:
Jim Newman wrote:
On 03/08/2012 22:48, ARWadsworth wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Su...cs_medal_table


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/...dals/countries

The Aussies are not doing very well:-)



The vainglorious brit who has done **** all himself but wonders if
he's the 'only person feeling proud' is a real object of pity


Nothing positive to post then?



Do let us know how you personally helped any of the medal winning heroes.

WTF does that have to do with anything?


I read it as ARW was claiming some isolated position in 'feeling proud'
of 'his' country. As though he'd done something special himself.
"Is there anyone else OTHER THAN ME that is proud of this country" is a
very self centred question.

But he's done **** all; so, in a very real sense, don't you think he's
worthy of pity?

Jim Newman wrote:
On 04/08/2012 00:04, ARWadsworth wrote:
Jim Newman wrote:
On 03/08/2012 22:48, ARWadsworth wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Su...cs_medal_table


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/...dals/countries

The Aussies are not doing very well:-)



The vainglorious brit who has done **** all himself but wonders if
he's the 'only person feeling proud' is a real object of pity


Nothing positive to post then?



Do let us know how you personally helped any of the medal winning
heroes.



If acting like a **** was an olympic sport then you would win a gold

--
Adam

"Jim Newman" wrote in message
...
On 04/08/2012 00:39, brass monkey wrote:
"Jim Newman" wrote in message
...
On 04/08/2012 00:04, ARWadsworth wrote:
Jim Newman wrote:
On 03/08/2012 22:48, ARWadsworth wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Su...cs_medal_table


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/...dals/countries

The Aussies are not doing very well:-)



The vainglorious brit who has done **** all himself but wonders if
he's the 'only person feeling proud' is a real object of pity


Nothing positive to post then?



Do let us know how you personally helped any of the medal winning
heroes.

WTF does that have to do with anything?


I read it as ARW was claiming some isolated position in 'feeling proud' of
'his' country. As though he'd done something special himself.
"Is there anyone else OTHER THAN ME that is proud of this country" is a
very self centred question.

But he's done **** all; so, in a very real sense, don't you think he's
worthy of pity?

Not at all, I'm pretty chuffed (proud if you will) that Andy Murray won
today and I'm not even a Scot.

On 04/08/2012 00:51, Jim Newman wrote:

I read it as ARW was claiming some isolated position in 'feeling proud'
of 'his' country. As though he'd done something special himself.
"Is there anyone else OTHER THAN ME that is proud of this country" is a
very self centred question.

I suspect the "other than me" is just a reaction to be surrounded by so
many truly miserable ****es...

e.c. :

But he's done **** all; so, in a very real sense, don't you think he's
worthy of pity?




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On 4/08/2012 10:03 a.m., Tim Streater wrote:
In article ,
"ARWadsworth" wrote:

[snip]

I am, but my pride is rooted in what this country has achieved in fields
other than the sporting, except to the extent that we invented a number
of sports.

Personally I'd rate us more by achievements in science, engineering,
democracy, exploration, literature, and the English language.


I happened to watch a bit of equestrian chat, and some scion(ess?) of
the royal family who is a competitor was being interviewed. She
referred to her horse as a "dude". Cultural colonisation, in reverse.

"Capn Nemo" wrote in message
...
On 03/08/2012 23:40, Jim Newman wrote:
On 03/08/2012 22:48, ARWadsworth wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Su...cs_medal_table


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/...dals/countries

The Aussies are not doing very well:-)



The vainglorious brit who has done **** all himself but wonders if he's
the 'only person feeling proud' is a real object of pity



Is that you Rod?

Nope. Even you should be able to check the headers...

On 03/08/12 22:48, ARWadsworth wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Su...cs_medal_table


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/...dals/countries

The Aussies are not doing very well:-)



I think it's rather sad that approx 50 % of our medals are won by Public
school attendees. Pretty poor reflection on sport in State schools.

I'd also suggest that national league tables have become almost
meaningless, as competitors are now almost traded as a commodity with
good runners from Africa for example, now representing very disparate
countries. With the world going the way it is, perhaps it's time to dump
the nationalistic fervour and concentrate on the individual achievement.

Personally I think that's a sad, even unsafe development but it seems an
inevitable outcome.

Andy C

Andy Cap wrote
ARWadsworth wrote

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Su...cs_medal_table

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/...dals/countries

I think it's rather sad that approx 50 % of our medals are won by Public
school attendees.

Why ?

Pretty poor reflection on sport in State schools.

Nope, just that they have enough of a clue to not worry about that sort
of terminal stupidity, or that the parents who can afford to send their
kids to public schools have much more of the sort of money that's needed
to engage in that sort of terminal stupidity. Hardly news with either.

I'd also suggest that national league tables have become almost
meaningless,

Particularly when so many are drug cheats.

as competitors are now almost traded as a commodity with good runners from
Africa for example, now representing very disparate countries.

Yeah, completely and utterly barking mad.

With the world going the way it is, perhaps it's time to dump the
nationalistic fervour and concentrate on the individual achievement.

Fat chance.

Personally I think that's a sad, even unsafe development

I believe the who thing is completely stupid, even before it
was so completely riddled with performance enhancing drugs.

Can't see how its unsafe, you don't see too many wars starting that way.

but it seems an inevitable outcome.

Corse it is.

On 04/08/12 07:26, Rod Speed wrote:

I think it's rather sad that approx 50 % of our medals are won by
Public school attendees.

Why ?


Because the vast majority of kids don't get the same opportunity.
If they did, we'd do a lot better still.

Andy C

"Jim Newman" wrote in message
...
On 04/08/2012 00:39, brass monkey wrote:
"Jim Newman" wrote in message
...
On 04/08/2012 00:04, ARWadsworth wrote:
Jim Newman wrote:
On 03/08/2012 22:48, ARWadsworth wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Su...cs_medal_table


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/...dals/countries

The Aussies are not doing very well:-)



The vainglorious brit who has done **** all himself but wonders if
he's the 'only person feeling proud' is a real object of pity


Nothing positive to post then?



Do let us know how you personally helped any of the medal winning
heroes.

WTF does that have to do with anything?


I read it as ARW was claiming some isolated position in 'feeling proud' of
'his' country. As though he'd done something special himself.
"Is there anyone else OTHER THAN ME that is proud of this country" is a
very self centred question.

But he's done **** all; so, in a very real sense, don't you think he's
worthy of pity?

Apart from the opening, I haven't watched any of it.
Yes I feel proud to be British. It's better than being a Yankor a pac1.
And much better than being a Frog or a Bruce.

If you don't feel proud to be British, why don't you F off somewhere else?
Miserable git.

Adam does useful work, unlike a lot of the useless overpaid parasites we
seem to have around us these days.

"brass monkey" wrote in message
eb.com...

"Jim Newman" wrote in message
...
On 04/08/2012 00:39, brass monkey wrote:
"Jim Newman" wrote in message
...
On 04/08/2012 00:04, ARWadsworth wrote:
Jim Newman wrote:
On 03/08/2012 22:48, ARWadsworth wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Su...cs_medal_table


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/...dals/countries

The Aussies are not doing very well:-)



The vainglorious brit who has done **** all himself but wonders if
he's the 'only person feeling proud' is a real object of pity


Nothing positive to post then?



Do let us know how you personally helped any of the medal winning
heroes.

WTF does that have to do with anything?


I read it as ARW was claiming some isolated position in 'feeling proud'
of 'his' country. As though he'd done something special himself.
"Is there anyone else OTHER THAN ME that is proud of this country" is a
very self centred question.

But he's done **** all; so, in a very real sense, don't you think he's
worthy of pity?

Not at all, I'm pretty chuffed (proud if you will) that Andy Murray won
today and I'm not even a Scot.

Now he's won, he's British.
He's only a Scot when he loses.

"ARWadsworth" wrote in message
...
Jim Newman wrote:
On 04/08/2012 00:04, ARWadsworth wrote:
Jim Newman wrote:
On 03/08/2012 22:48, ARWadsworth wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Su...cs_medal_table


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/...dals/countries

The Aussies are not doing very well:-)



The vainglorious brit who has done **** all himself but wonders if
he's the 'only person feeling proud' is a real object of pity


Nothing positive to post then?



Do let us know how you personally helped any of the medal winning
heroes.



If acting like a **** was an olympic sport then you would win a gold

--
Adam

Steady on Adam. ****s are useful.

Andy Cap wrote:
On 04/08/12 07:26, Rod Speed wrote:

I think it's rather sad that approx 50 % of our medals are won by
Public school attendees.

Why ?


Because the vast majority of kids don't get the same opportunity.
If they did, we'd do a lot better still.

Fingers crossed for Jessica then?

--
Adam

"Andy Cap" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 03/08/12 22:48, ARWadsworth wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Su...cs_medal_table


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/...dals/countries

The Aussies are not doing very well:-)



I think it's rather sad that approx 50 % of our medals are won by Public
school attendees. Pretty poor reflection on sport in State schools.

I'd also suggest that national league tables have become almost
meaningless, as competitors are now almost traded as a commodity with good
runners from Africa for example, now representing very disparate
countries. With the world going the way it is, perhaps it's time to dump
the nationalistic fervour and concentrate on the individual achievement.

Personally I think that's a sad, even unsafe development but it seems an
inevitable outcome.

Andy C

It's a result of big business and the commercialisation of sport.
They should make it a rule that you have to be born in the place you
represent.
Also applies to football. Never mind all these imported West Africans.

Sport is all meaningless these days. Just a ripoff for the simple minded.

Andy Cap wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Andy Cap wrote

I think it's rather sad that approx 50 % of our
medals are won by Public school attendees.

Why ?

Because the vast majority of kids don't get the same opportunity.

They don't with everything else like their parent's attitude either.

So what.

If they did, we'd do a lot better still.

Who cares about stupid **** like that ? Only fools.

harryagain wrote
Andy Cap wrote
ARWadsworth wrote

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Su...cs_medal_table

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/...dals/countries

I think it's rather sad that approx 50 % of our medals are won by Public
school attendees. Pretty poor reflection on sport in State schools.

I'd also suggest that national league tables have become almost
meaningless, as competitors are now almost traded as a commodity with
good runners from Africa for example, now representing very disparate
countries. With the world going the way it is, perhaps it's time to dump
the nationalistic fervour and concentrate on the individual achievement.

Personally I think that's a sad, even unsafe development but it seems an
inevitable outcome.

It's a result of big business and the commercialisation of sport.

They should make it a rule that you have to be born in the place you
represent.

Completely silly. That would mean that no immigrants could ever be part of
it.

Also applies to football. Never mind all these imported West Africans.

Sport is all meaningless these days.

Always has been.

Just a ripoff for the simple minded.

Only the simple minded are stupid enough to bother with sport.

harryagain wrote:
"Andy Cap" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 03/08/12 22:48, ARWadsworth wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Su...cs_medal_table


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/...dals/countries

The Aussies are not doing very well:-)



I think it's rather sad that approx 50 % of our medals are won by
Public school attendees. Pretty poor reflection on sport in State
schools. I'd also suggest that national league tables have become almost
meaningless, as competitors are now almost traded as a commodity
with good runners from Africa for example, now representing very
disparate countries. With the world going the way it is, perhaps
it's time to dump the nationalistic fervour and concentrate on the
individual achievement. Personally I think that's a sad, even unsafe
development but it
seems an inevitable outcome.

Andy C

It's a result of big business and the commercialisation of sport.



They should make it a rule that you have to be born in the place you
represent.
Also applies to football. Never mind all these imported West
Africans.


So who would play for the England B team then?

--
Adam

On 04/08/12 08:08, Rod Speed wrote:


They don't with everything else like their parent's attitude either.
So what.

Because any decent society wants the best for ALL kids, not just the
rich ones.


Who cares about stupid **** like that ? Only fools.

So physical well-being doesn't matter ? That why we're getting more
unhealthy after years of improvement.

I agree that sport has too higher profile in respect to other
achievements, i.e. engineering, but that doesn't make it stupid.

Giving awards like Sir and Lord for getting a Gold medal IS ridiculous,
the medal should suffice.

Andy C

I think despite the critics, people are telling me that the organisation of
the Olympics has been very good so far with the result that people are
happy at the venues etc. Of course there has been the odd breakdown on the
underground, but apparently the back up systems and staff have been
informed about them.
Lets hope all of this good practice and helpfulness is not forgotten after
its all over.

Brian

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"ARWadsworth" wrote in message
...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Su...cs_medal_table


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/...dals/countries

The Aussies are not doing very well:-)


--
Adam

Andy Cap wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Andy Cap wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Andy Cap wrote

I think it's rather sad that approx 50 % of our medals are won by
Public school attendees.

Why ?

Because the vast majority of kids don't get the same opportunity.

They don't with everything else like their parent's attitude either.

So what.

Because any decent society wants the best for ALL kids, not just the rich
ones.

Pity no one has ever been able to work out how to achieve that,
and won't ever be able to do that anyway on genetics alone.

If they did, we'd do a lot better still.

Who cares about stupid **** like that ? Only fools.

So physical well-being doesn't matter ?

The olympics ain't about physical well being.

That why we're getting more unhealthy after years of improvement.

Wrong. Not only aren't we getting more unhealthy, the problem
when we aren't is due to obesity, not because not enough are
actually stupid enough to bother with stuff like the olympics.

I agree that sport has too higher profile in respect to other
achievements, i.e. engineering,

Anything else in fact.

but that doesn't make it stupid.

Giving a damn about how many medals each country gets certainly is.

Giving awards like Sir and Lord for getting a Gold medal IS ridiculous,

And so is getting a medal in the first place.

the medal should suffice.

It is in fact completely stupid.

Brian Gaff wrote

I think despite the critics, people are telling me that the organisation
of the Olympics has been very good so far

Like hell they are on the number of empty seats alone.

Complete and utter shambles in fact.

with the result that people are happy at the venues etc.

Pity about the ones that couldn’t get the tickets for those empty seats.

Of course there has been the odd breakdown on the underground,

Shouldn’t have happened if the system had been designed right.

Its not as if there has been any unpredictable events.

but apparently the back up systems and staff have been informed about
them.

It would be one hell of an inditement if they had not.

Lets hope all of this good practice and helpfulness is not forgotten
after its all over.

Corse it will be.

On 04/08/12 08:47, Rod Speed wrote:

Pity no one has ever been able to work out how to achieve that,
and won't ever be able to do that anyway on genetics alone.

Not true. The general level of attainment has improved.

The olympics ain't about physical well being.

You don't think it encourages participation ? More people are riding
bikes every day.

Wrong. Not only aren't we getting more unhealthy, the problem
when we aren't is due to obesity, not because not enough are
actually stupid enough to bother with stuff like the olympics.

It's a combination of both.

Giving a damn about how many medals each country gets certainly is.

As I said, I think the nationalistic element IS outdated and doomed.

And so is getting a medal in the first place.
It is in fact completely stupid.

So basically you don't believe in awards for anything or is it just sport.

Andy C

"Rod Speed" wrote in message
...
Andy Cap wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Andy Cap wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Andy Cap wrote

I think it's rather sad that approx 50 % of our medals are won by
Public school attendees.

Why ?

Because the vast majority of kids don't get the same opportunity.

They don't with everything else like their parent's attitude either.

So what.

Because any decent society wants the best for ALL kids, not just the rich
ones.

Pity no one has ever been able to work out how to achieve that,
and won't ever be able to do that anyway on genetics alone.

If they did, we'd do a lot better still.

Who cares about stupid **** like that ? Only fools.

So physical well-being doesn't matter ?

The olympics ain't about physical well being.

That why we're getting more unhealthy after years of improvement.

Wrong. Not only aren't we getting more unhealthy, the problem
when we aren't is due to obesity, not because not enough are
actually stupid enough to bother with stuff like the olympics.

I agree that sport has too higher profile in respect to other
achievements, i.e. engineering,

Anything else in fact.

but that doesn't make it stupid.

Giving a damn about how many medals each country gets certainly is.

Giving awards like Sir and Lord for getting a Gold medal IS ridiculous,

And so is getting a medal in the first place.

the medal should suffice.

It is in fact completely stupid.

Pffffffft, that's cos the ozzies are doing poorly.

Andy Cap wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Andy Cap wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Andy Cap wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Andy Cap wrote

I think it's rather sad that approx 50 % of our medals are won by
Public school attendees.

Why ?

Because the vast majority of kids don't get the same opportunity.

They don't with everything else like their parent's attitude either.

So what.

Because any decent society wants the best for ALL kids,
not just the rich ones.

Pity no one has ever been able to work out how to achieve that,
and won't ever be able to do that anyway on genetics alone.

Not true.

Corse it is on genetics alone.

The general level of attainment has improved.

Nothing like 'the best' you were mindlessly rabbitting on about.

If they did, we'd do a lot better still.

Who cares about stupid **** like that ? Only fools.

So physical well-being doesn't matter ?

The olympics ain't about physical well being.

You don't think it encourages participation ?

Not in anything that produces well being.

More people are riding bikes every day.

Absolutely NOTHING to do with the olympics.

That happened LONG before any modern olympics at all.

That why we're getting more unhealthy after years of improvement.

Wrong. Not only aren't we getting more unhealthy, the problem
when we aren't is due to obesity, not because not enough are
actually stupid enough to bother with stuff like the olympics.

It's a combination of both.

Nope, its only the grossly obese that aren't seeing an
improvement in their health, particularly with older people.

I agree that sport has too higher profile in respect to other
achievements, i.e. engineering,

Anything else in fact.

but that doesn't make it stupid.

Giving a damn about how many medals each country gets certainly is.

As I said, I think the nationalistic element IS outdated and doomed.

Corse it ain't doomed. If anything fools like the worst of the scots
are more into that sort of mindless silly **** than they used to be etc.

Giving awards like Sir and Lord for getting a Gold medal IS ridiculous,

And so is getting a medal in the first place.

the medal should suffice.

So basically you don't believe in awards for anything

Yes, what matters is what you have actually done, not some stupid 'award'

Knighthoods etc in spades.

or is it just sport.

Nope.

"John Rumm" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 04/08/2012 00:51, Jim Newman wrote:

I read it as ARW was claiming some isolated position in 'feeling proud'
of 'his' country. As though he'd done something special himself.
"Is there anyone else OTHER THAN ME that is proud of this country" is a
very self centred question.

I suspect the "other than me" is just a reaction to be surrounded by so
many truly miserable ****es...

SPOT ON

e.c. :

But he's done **** all; so, in a very real sense, don't you think he's
worthy of pity?

Lets hope all of this good practice and helpfulness is not forgotten after
its all over.

Stand by for the greatest hangover on earth

In article ,
Andy Cap wrote:
I think it's rather sad that approx 50 % of our medals are won by Public
school attendees. Pretty poor reflection on sport in State schools.

Not many state schools have their own private lake to practice rowing on.

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"ARWadsworth" wrote in message ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Su...cs_medal_table


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/...dals/countries

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Yeah, but I don't think we should make a league table of it

In article ,
Rod Speed wrote:
Giving a damn about how many medals each country gets certainly is.

Given your misappropriate patriotism on near everything else, this looks like
sour grapes...

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Dave Plowman London SW
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Huge wrote:
On 2012-08-03, Jim Newman wrote:
On 03/08/2012 22:48, ARWadsworth wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Su...cs_medal_table
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Su...cs_medal_table


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/...dals/countries

The Aussies are not doing very well:-)



The vainglorious brit who has done **** all himself but wonders if
he's the 'only person feeling proud' is a real object of pity

Congratulations, bozo. Killfiled at the first post.

You must have missed his other two posts to earlier threads then:-)

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