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On 05/08/2012 21:32, Nick Odell wrote:
On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 19:51:55 +0100, SteveW wrote: On 04/08/2012 22:59, brass monkey wrote: "Rod Speed" wrote in message ... soup wrote Rod Speed wrote Happens with a power failure etc too, you can't do any work or entertainment either. And in that situation, at least I can read. I tried reading by candlelight at the last power cut, I wish I had some jelly to knit it would have been easier and less painful on the eyes. I have a couple of rechargeable torches that are plugged into the mains all the time and come on auto when the mains fails. They are fine for reading by. Blimey, it must happen a lot down there. All the powergen convicts go on strike? During the 70's and the regular powercuts due to strikes, we had a spare car battery in the living room, along with a 12V lamp hung on the wall and a 12V portable TV. We'd just moved into our first house and after seeing to the damp-proofing and the mains electrics were doing it up, room by room. I took the opportunity to build in a 12v circuit with dual-voltage caravan strip-light under the kitchen units and outlets for running 12v stuff off. We had a 12v B&W Indesit TV - ah: here it is: http://tinyurl.com/d8yard9 Ours was White though. Needless to say, once the 12v system was running sweetly, the power cuts all stopped. Nick How long before they're back though? SteveW |
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On 05/08/2012 20:56, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
dennis@home wrote: Are you really dumb? An eruv allows a large space to be "home". Hence the horse doesn't know where its "home" is. Hence the not to somewhere its never been to as it may well never have been there or may just go to the wrong one. Get it yet? Can horses be of the Hebrew persuasion? I wouldn't like to circumcise one! SteveW |
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Hugo Nebula wrote
wrote The Amish philosophy is not to adopt a technology just for the sake of adopting a technology. If it is a useful tool to accomplish the work they chose to do, and not a frivoulous toy, then they will use it. I think the Amish thinking is, "if it's not mentioned in the Bible, we can't use it". Nope, that doesn't explain phones in out houses, or those scooters or bikes either. Or gas lights either. Leviticus quite clearly describes all engineered wood products, although one can be flayed alive for mixing Glu-Lam and MDF in the same building. |
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On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 21:50:07 +0100, SteveW
wrote: On 05/08/2012 21:32, Nick Odell wrote: On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 19:51:55 +0100, SteveW wrote: On 04/08/2012 22:59, brass monkey wrote: "Rod Speed" wrote in message ... soup wrote Rod Speed wrote Happens with a power failure etc too, you can't do any work or entertainment either. And in that situation, at least I can read. I tried reading by candlelight at the last power cut, I wish I had some jelly to knit it would have been easier and less painful on the eyes. I have a couple of rechargeable torches that are plugged into the mains all the time and come on auto when the mains fails. They are fine for reading by. Blimey, it must happen a lot down there. All the powergen convicts go on strike? During the 70's and the regular powercuts due to strikes, we had a spare car battery in the living room, along with a 12V lamp hung on the wall and a 12V portable TV. We'd just moved into our first house and after seeing to the damp-proofing and the mains electrics were doing it up, room by room. I took the opportunity to build in a 12v circuit with dual-voltage caravan strip-light under the kitchen units and outlets for running 12v stuff off. We had a 12v B&W Indesit TV - ah: here it is: http://tinyurl.com/d8yard9 Ours was White though. Needless to say, once the 12v system was running sweetly, the power cuts all stopped. Nick How long before they're back though? Too true. Maybe I should go and ask the present owners if they'll sell me my old house back again? Or start browsing caravanning magazines before I buy the next one. Nick |
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dennis@home wrote:
"geoff" wrote in message ... No dennis - WE were not talking about an eruf well horses don't have homes either so that's you talking cr@p. I wonder what stables are. -- To people who know nothing, anything is possible. To people who know too much, it is a sad fact that they know how little is really possible - and how hard it is to achieve it. |
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"Nick Odell" wrote in message ... On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 19:51:55 +0100, SteveW wrote: On 04/08/2012 22:59, brass monkey wrote: "Rod Speed" wrote in message ... soup wrote Rod Speed wrote Happens with a power failure etc too, you can't do any work or entertainment either. And in that situation, at least I can read. I tried reading by candlelight at the last power cut, I wish I had some jelly to knit it would have been easier and less painful on the eyes. I have a couple of rechargeable torches that are plugged into the mains all the time and come on auto when the mains fails. They are fine for reading by. Blimey, it must happen a lot down there. All the powergen convicts go on strike? During the 70's and the regular powercuts due to strikes, we had a spare car battery in the living room, along with a 12V lamp hung on the wall and a 12V portable TV. We'd just moved into our first house and after seeing to the damp-proofing and the mains electrics were doing it up, room by room. I took the opportunity to build in a 12v circuit with dual-voltage caravan strip-light under the kitchen units and outlets for running 12v stuff off. We had a 12v B&W Indesit TV - ah: here it is: http://tinyurl.com/d8yard9 Ours was White though. Needless to say, once the 12v system was running sweetly, the power cuts all stopped. Yeah, I just picked up a very decent hardly used at all generator at one of the garage/yard sales for peanuts. Bet we now wont have any power cuts at all that last for more than a few seconds now. |
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SteveW wrote: Can horses be of the Hebrew persuasion? I wouldn't like to circumcise one! The basic pay is poor but the tips enormous. -- *What happens if you get scared half to death twice? * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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In message , The Natural Philosopher
writes dennis@home wrote: Are you really dumb? An eruv allows a large space to be "home". Hence the horse doesn't know where its "home" is. Hence the not to somewhere its never been to as it may well never have been there or may just go to the wrong one. Get it yet? Can horses be of the Hebrew persuasion? I've never actually looked to see if they're circumcised -- geoff |
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In message , "dennis@home"
writes "geoff" wrote in message ... No dennis - WE were not talking about an eruf well horses don't have homes either so that's you talking cr@p. FFS dense, can't you go out and get a job ? There must be somebody in the west midlands that will employ you Just because Marconi "let you go" doesn't mean you can't go for a change in direction, ... refuse collector for example or you could collect trolleys at one of the stores near you -- geoff |
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In message , The Natural Philosopher
writes dennis@home wrote: "geoff" wrote in message ... No dennis - WE were not talking about an eruf well horses don't have homes either so that's you talking cr@p. I wonder what stables are. Generally, the opposite of dense's state of mind -- geoff |
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geoff wrote:
In message , The Natural Philosopher writes dennis@home wrote: "geoff" wrote in message ... No dennis - WE were not talking about an eruf well horses don't have homes either so that's you talking cr@p. I wonder what stables are. Generally, the opposite of dense's state of mind That's a very acute point I think the horse bolted after the stable door was opened. And now he's one mare short of a nest. Or one nest short of a mare. De Denis, semper disputandum est..... -- To people who know nothing, anything is possible. To people who know too much, it is a sad fact that they know how little is really possible - and how hard it is to achieve it. |
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"geoff" wrote in message ... FFS dense, can't you go out and get a job ? I don't work Sundays. Why don't you and give us all a rest? There must be somebody in the west midlands that will employ you Just because Marconi "let you go" doesn't mean you can't go for a change in direction, Marconi let everyone go. They no longer exist. Some of us had the opportunity to go earlier and got 106 weeks pay to do so. ... refuse collector for example or you could collect trolleys at one of the stores near you I am quite happy with the job I have thanks. |
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On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 07:59:05 +0100, dennis@home wrote:
Marconi let everyone go. They no longer exist. Some of us had the opportunity to go earlier and got 106 weeks pay to do so. Obviously very anxious to get shot of you. -- Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On Aug 4, 2:33*am, "Rod Speed" wrote:
Man at B&Q wrote Rod Speed wrote wrote Davey wrote: polygonum wrote: Surprised to see what looks very much like OSB lining the Amish house on the program on BBC2 right now. Not to mention the Fridge, the 'phone (in an outhouse!) and the solar The Amish philosophy is not to adopt a technology just for the sake of adopting a technology. If it is a useful tool to accomplish the work they chose to do, and not a frivoulous toy, then they will use it. Its MUCH more complicated than that in practice. That doesn't explain why they refuse to use an engine in stuff as basic as a bike etc. A telephone is a useful emergency communication device, They don't just use the phone in the outhouse for emergencys. And they'd be a lot better off with the phone in the house for emergencys anyway. Who's house, The house where the emergency happens, stupid. and why? Even you can't actually be THAT stupid. You obviously are. We were talking about a single shared 'phone "...they'd be a lot better off with *the* phone in the house...". So, again, who should house it and how should they be chosen? Will they mind being woken at all hours whenever someone else wants to use the 'phone? MBQ |
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On Aug 4, 2:34*am, "Rod Speed" wrote:
Man at B&Q wrote Rod Speed wrote Owain wrote Davey *wrote Always get the impression that anything less than two centuries old (in technology terms) is too modern. But that is very likely based on much ignorance. Not to mention the Fridge, the 'phone (in an outhouse!) and the solar panels. At least they don't need GPS - the horse always knows the way home. Not to somewhere its never been it doesn't. Somewhere it's never been wouldn't be home. Irrelevant to his claim that they don't need GPS. You are irrelevant. MBQ |
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In message , "dennis@home"
writes "geoff" wrote in message ... FFS dense, can't you go out and get a job ? I don't work Sundays. Why don't you and give us all a rest? There must be somebody in the west midlands that will employ you Just because Marconi "let you go" doesn't mean you can't go for a change in direction, Marconi let everyone go. They no longer exist. Some of us had the opportunity to go earlier and got 106 weeks pay to do so. ... refuse collector for example or you could collect trolleys at one of the stores near you I am quite happy with the job I have thanks. What job's that, dense? -- geoff |
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In message , Bob Eager
writes On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 07:59:05 +0100, dennis@home wrote: Marconi let everyone go. They no longer exist. Some of us had the opportunity to go earlier and got 106 weeks pay to do so. Obviously very anxious to get shot of you. .... Two years before everyone else -- geoff |
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In message , "dennis@home"
writes "geoff" wrote in message ... FFS dense, can't you go out and get a job ? I don't work Sundays. Why don't you and give us all a rest? There must be somebody in the west midlands that will employ you Just because Marconi "let you go" doesn't mean you can't go for a change in direction, Marconi let everyone go. They no longer exist. Some of us had the opportunity to go earlier and got 106 weeks pay to do so. ... refuse collector for example or you could collect trolleys at one of the stores near you I am quite happy with the job I have thanks. Hairdresser on spaceship three ? You see dense, if it was anything more than a crap job, you would have told us of how you'd done this or that. As it is, you're very quiet about it. How many broom heads have you got through? -- geoff |
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"geoff" wrote in message ... You see dense, if it was anything more than a crap job, you would have told us of how you'd done this or that. You just haven't been listening. As it is, you're very quiet about it. I'm always quiet, unlike you. How many broom heads have you got through? None yet, thanks. Why don't you go on a hunger strike until I do. |
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"Man at B&Q" wrote in message ... On Aug 4, 2:33 am, "Rod Speed" wrote: Man at B&Q wrote Rod Speed wrote wrote Davey wrote: polygonum wrote: Surprised to see what looks very much like OSB lining the Amish house on the program on BBC2 right now. Not to mention the Fridge, the 'phone (in an outhouse!) and the solar The Amish philosophy is not to adopt a technology just for the sake of adopting a technology. If it is a useful tool to accomplish the work they chose to do, and not a frivoulous toy, then they will use it. Its MUCH more complicated than that in practice. That doesn't explain why they refuse to use an engine in stuff as basic as a bike etc. A telephone is a useful emergency communication device, They don't just use the phone in the outhouse for emergencys. And they'd be a lot better off with the phone in the house for emergencys anyway. Who's house, The house where the emergency happens, stupid. and why? Even you can't actually be THAT stupid. We were talking about a single shared 'phone "... Wrong, as always. |
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In message , "dennis@home"
writes "geoff" wrote in message ... You see dense, if it was anything more than a crap job, you would have told us of how you'd done this or that. You just haven't been listening. As it is, you're very quiet about it. I'm always quiet, unlike you. Could you make that a promise How many broom heads have you got through? None yet, thanks. Then you're a lazy ******* and should work harder Why don't you go on a hunger strike until I do. No particular desire to denso -- geoff |
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dennis@home wrote:
"geoff" wrote in message ... You see dense, if it was anything more than a crap job, you would have told us of how you'd done this or that. You just haven't been listening. As it is, you're very quiet about it. I'm always quiet, unlike you. It's amazing what you can learn from a whisper. -- Adam |
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Owain wrote:
On Aug 6, 8:55 pm, "ARWadsworth" wrote: It's amazing what you can learn from a whisper. Was that when she told you that she loved you? She has not yet said that. -- Adam |
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On Aug 6, 8:07*pm, "Rod Speed" wrote:
"Man at B&Q" wrote in ... On Aug 4, 2:33 am, "Rod Speed" wrote: Man at B&Q wrote Rod Speed wrote wrote Davey wrote: polygonum wrote: Surprised to see what looks very much like OSB lining the Amish house on the program on BBC2 right now. Not to mention the Fridge, the 'phone (in an outhouse!) and the solar The Amish philosophy is not to adopt a technology just for the sake of adopting a technology. If it is a useful tool to accomplish the work they chose to do, and not a frivoulous toy, then they will use it. Its MUCH more complicated than that in practice. That doesn't explain why they refuse to use an engine in stuff as basic as a bike etc. A telephone is a useful emergency communication device, They don't just use the phone in the outhouse for emergencys. And they'd be a lot better off with the phone in the house for emergencys anyway. Who's house, The house where the emergency happens, stupid. and why? Even you can't actually be THAT stupid. We were talking about a single shared 'phone "... Wrong, as always. Whatever. The history of what was said is there for all to read. Apart from those antipodeans lacking basic comprehension skills. MBQ |
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"Man at B&Q" wrote in message ... On Aug 6, 8:07 pm, "Rod Speed" wrote: "Man at B&Q" wrote in ... On Aug 4, 2:33 am, "Rod Speed" wrote: Man at B&Q wrote Rod Speed wrote wrote Davey wrote: polygonum wrote: Surprised to see what looks very much like OSB lining the Amish house on the program on BBC2 right now. Not to mention the Fridge, the 'phone (in an outhouse!) and the solar The Amish philosophy is not to adopt a technology just for the sake of adopting a technology. If it is a useful tool to accomplish the work they chose to do, and not a frivoulous toy, then they will use it. Its MUCH more complicated than that in practice. That doesn't explain why they refuse to use an engine in stuff as basic as a bike etc. A telephone is a useful emergency communication device, They don't just use the phone in the outhouse for emergencys. And they'd be a lot better off with the phone in the house for emergencys anyway. Who's house, The house where the emergency happens, stupid. and why? Even you can't actually be THAT stupid. We were talking about a single shared 'phone "... Wrong, as always. Whatever. The history of what was said is there for all to read. It is indeed, with you face down in the mud, as always. |
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