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Hi, I'm thinking of installing a laundry chute in my house, I don't think its a common household facility in the UK as I have never heard of or know anyone who has one.
I'm interested because it will make life easier as I have a large family... I'm thinking of installing it from the first floor to the basement - that's going through 2 floors in total. I want to completely comply with the building regs and fire standards, could you please advise on my plan and the questions I have regarding it. Currently my plan consists of: 1) Chute diameter of 30cm 2) Chute Material: Stainless Steel 3) 1.5 hour fire rated self closing door at the top 4) 1 hour fire damper at the basement level 5) Box the pipe in with fire board and plaster it 6) Add a fire alarm at the top of the chute (inside) - fire alarm will be interconnected to others throughout the house. My questions: a) Is a laundry chute legal in the UK for residential houses? b) Is my plan above sufficient to satisfy all the building and fire regs? c) Do I have to inform the council that I'm putting one in? Any other recommendations welcome! Thanks |
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On Jul 5, 2:03*pm, u22 wrote:
Hi, I'm thinking of installing a laundry chute in my house, I don't think its a common household facility in the UK as I have never heard of or know anyone who has one. I'm interested because it will make life easier as I have a large family... I'm thinking of installing it from the first floor to the basement - that's going through 2 floors in total. I want to completely comply with the building regs and fire standards, could you please advise on my plan and the questions I have regarding it. Currently my plan consists of: 1) Chute diameter of 30cm 2) Chute Material: Stainless Steel 3) 1.5 hour fire rated self closing door at the top 4) 1 hour fire damper at the basement level 5) Box the pipe in with fire board and plaster it 6) Add a fire alarm at the top of the chute (inside) - fire alarm will be interconnected to others throughout the house. My questions: a) Is a laundry chute legal in the UK for residential houses? b) Is my plan above sufficient to satisfy all the building and fire regs? c) Do I have to inform the council that I'm putting one in? Any other recommendations welcome! Thanks -- u22 I can tell you about hospital ones. They have self closing doors, smoke proof, on all floors and are fireproof. A mass of damp laundry can self ignite. There have been some serious incidents in hospitals in the past. Also. make sure kids can't fall down access/them. They can be smelly too. |
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On 05/07/2012 14:03, u22 wrote:
Hi, I'm thinking of installing a laundry chute in my house, I don't think its a common household facility in the UK as I have never heard of or know anyone who has one. I'm interested because it will make life easier as I have a large family... I'm thinking of installing it from the first floor to the basement - that's going through 2 floors in total. I want to completely comply with the building regs and fire standards, could you please advise on my plan and the questions I have regarding it. Currently my plan consists of: 1) Chute diameter of 30cm 2) Chute Material: Stainless Steel 3) 1.5 hour fire rated self closing door at the top 4) 1 hour fire damper at the basement level 5) Box the pipe in with fire board and plaster it 6) Add a fire alarm at the top of the chute (inside) - fire alarm will be interconnected to others throughout the house. My questions: a) Is a laundry chute legal in the UK for residential houses? b) Is my plan above sufficient to satisfy all the building and fire regs? c) Do I have to inform the council that I'm putting one in? Any other recommendations welcome! Approved Document B contains notes on refuse chutes if nothing else... -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 05/07/2012 14:03, u22 wrote:
Hi, I'm thinking of installing a laundry chute in my house, I don't think its a common household facility in the UK as I have never heard of or know anyone who has one. I'm interested because it will make life easier as I have a large family... I'm thinking of installing it from the first floor to the basement - that's going through 2 floors in total. I want to completely comply with the building regs and fire standards, could you please advise on my plan and the questions I have regarding it. Currently my plan consists of: 1) Chute diameter of 30cm 2) Chute Material: Stainless Steel 3) 1.5 hour fire rated self closing door at the top 4) 1 hour fire damper at the basement level 5) Box the pipe in with fire board and plaster it 6) Add a fire alarm at the top of the chute (inside) - fire alarm will be interconnected to others throughout the house. My questions: a) Is a laundry chute legal in the UK for residential houses? b) Is my plan above sufficient to satisfy all the building and fire regs? c) Do I have to inform the council that I'm putting one in? I looked at putting one in my build ... from ironing room on 1s floor to utility room below .. was advised it would be difficult to get Bld Regs approval due to fire risk. I did point out that my stair well was a much bigger opening .. but they did not see that as relevant. |
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On 05/07/2012 21:49, Owain wrote:
On Jul 5, 2:03 pm, u22 wrote: Hi, I'm thinking of installing a laundry chute in my house, I don't think its a common household facility in the UK as I have never heard of or know anyone who has one. I'm interested because it will make life easier as I have a large family... It may get the dirty washing down to the basement but you still have to carry all the clean stuff back up again afterwards. And all the dirty stuff will end up in one big basket at the bottom of the chute, instead of being separated into whites/coloureds etc. So that's another job that will have to be done. Much better to put the laundry room on the bedroom floor where the bulk of the dirty washing originates and it can be separated at source into whites/coloureds etc. Owain If you had one of those "plumbed-in" vacuum cleaner systems you could just put both socks in it when you take them off; then you will never have a mountain of odd socks again..... |
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On 7/5/2012 4:49 PM, Owain wrote:
On Jul 5, 2:03 pm, u22 wrote: Hi, I'm thinking of installing a laundry chute in my house, I don't think its a common household facility in the UK as I have never heard of or know anyone who has one. I'm interested because it will make life easier as I have a large family... It may get the dirty washing down to the basement but you still have to carry all the clean stuff back up again afterwards. And all the dirty stuff will end up in one big basket at the bottom of the chute, instead of being separated into whites/coloureds etc. So that's another job that will have to be done. Much better to put the laundry room on the bedroom floor where the bulk of the dirty washing originates and it can be separated at source into whites/coloureds etc. My son's house is like that - right next to the linen cupboard on the bedroom floor. |
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u22 wrote Hi, I'm thinking of installing a laundry chute in my house, I don't think its a common household facility in the UK as I have never heard of or know anyone who has one. I'm interested because it will make life easier as I have a large family... It may get the dirty washing down to the basement but you still have to carry all the clean stuff back up again afterwards. Still cuts out half the work. And all the dirty stuff will end up in one big basket at the bottom of the chute, instead of being separated into whites/coloureds etc. So that's another job that will have to be done. That has to be done anyway. Better to do it in the laundry IMO. Much better to put the laundry room on the bedroom floor where the bulk of the dirty washing originates and it can be separated at source into whites/coloureds etc. But if the clothes are dried on the line outside, you then have to cart it downstairs to get out the back etc. |
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On Thu, 5 Jul 2012 13:49:28 -0700 (PDT), Owain
wrote: On Jul 5, 2:03*pm, u22 wrote: Hi, I'm thinking of installing a laundry chute in my house, I don't think its a common household facility in the UK as I have never heard of or know anyone who has one. I'm interested because it will make life easier as I have a large family... It may get the dirty washing down to the basement but you still have to carry all the clean stuff back up again afterwards. Probably better to use a dumb waiter... -- Frank Erskine |
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On Thu, 5 Jul 2012 10:48:22 -0700 (PDT), harry wrote:
On Jul 5, 2:03*pm, u22 wrote: Hi, I'm thinking of installing a laundry chute in my house, I don't think its a common household facility in the UK as I have never heard of or know anyone who has one. I'm interested because it will make life easier as I have a large family... I'm thinking of installing it from the first floor to the basement - that's going through 2 floors in total. I want to completely comply with the building regs and fire standards, could you please advise on my plan and the questions I have regarding it. Currently my plan consists of: 1) Chute diameter of 30cm 2) Chute Material: Stainless Steel 3) 1.5 hour fire rated self closing door at the top 4) 1 hour fire damper at the basement level 5) Box the pipe in with fire board and plaster it 6) Add a fire alarm at the top of the chute (inside) - fire alarm will be interconnected to others throughout the house. My questions: a) Is a laundry chute legal in the UK for residential houses? b) Is my plan above sufficient to satisfy all the building and fire regs? c) Do I have to inform the council that I'm putting one in? Any other recommendations welcome! Thanks -- u22 I can tell you about hospital ones. They have self closing doors, smoke proof, on all floors and are fireproof. A mass of damp laundry can self ignite. There have been some serious incidents in hospitals in the past. Also. make sure kids can't fall down access/them. They can be smelly too. And then the school will complain. -- Peter. The gods will stay away whilst religions hold sway |
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S Viemeister writes: On 7/5/2012 4:49 PM, Owain wrote: On Jul 5, 2:03 pm, u22 wrote: Hi, I'm thinking of installing a laundry chute in my house, I don't think its a common household facility in the UK as I have never heard of or know anyone who has one. I'm interested because it will make life easier as I have a large family... It may get the dirty washing down to the basement but you still have to carry all the clean stuff back up again afterwards. And all the dirty stuff will end up in one big basket at the bottom of the chute, instead of being separated into whites/coloureds etc. So that's another job that will have to be done. Much better to put the laundry room on the bedroom floor where the bulk of the dirty washing originates and it can be separated at source into whites/coloureds etc. My son's house is like that - right next to the linen cupboard on the bedroom floor. My parents had that arrangement for ~30 years. It did mean they couldn't use a high spin speed, as it would have shaken the house to pieces. It will depend on floor construction, and span from supporting walls at the point in question. When they first did it, they had a separate spin drier. -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
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They supply and fit residential laundry chutes all over the UK, Europe and America. There is no problem with UK building regulations as all their doors are fire rated and child safe (lockable). Automatic fire dampers can be fitted as extra safety if needed. 300mm or 400mm sizes. Look at this quick video on youtube for information (90 seconds). GED Chutes - Residential Laundry Chutes and Linen Chutes.mp4 - YouTube The award winning laundry chutes can be seen at the National Homebuilding and Renovating exhibition in Swindon (open all year) or at Grand Designs Show, NEC in October. Any further advice or information just please ask them. They are the experts. Their biggest residential laundry chute was 18m high with 5 doors, 400mm for a single family house! No problem with building control. |
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On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 00:49:31 +0000, GED Laundry Chutes wrote:
There is one simple answer to this post - simply contact Neil from GED Laundry Chutes snip They supply ... They? I think you mean "We". If you are going to spam a news group don't pathetically try and dress it up as a third party posting. -- Cheers Dave. |
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Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 00:49:31 +0000, GED Laundry Chutes wrote: There is one simple answer to this post - simply contact Neil from GED Laundry Chutes snip They supply ... They? I think you mean "We". If you are going to spam a news group don't pathetically try and dress it up as a third party posting. I can see the doors being low volume=high price items, but the price of the actual 300mm duct seems very expensive compared to e.g. http://www.ductstore.co.uk/index.html 1m tube £174 vs 3m tube £46 T-piece £434 vs £38 90° bend £266 vs £23 Not sure if there are differences in terms of M-F sockets all the way down and smooth internal bores to prevent clothes snagging ... |
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On Sat, 7 Jul 2012 06:55:52 +0000 (UTC),
(Andrew Gabriel) wrote: My parents had that arrangement for ~30 years. It did mean they couldn't use a high spin speed, as it would have shaken the house to pieces. You would not be able to do your washing on economy 7 because the noise would keep you awake but that's not an issue if all washing is done during the day. |
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On Sun, 08 Jul 2012 20:48:25 +0100, Hugo Nebula
wrote: (unless it fits between a pair of joists) You would have to lose a bedroom if you installed your laundry room upstairs, so a chute would be a good idea. As it is only laundry, the space between joists should be enough, shouldn't it? The dumb waiter is a good idea as it allows travel in both directions. |
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I thought exactly the same Andy - seems vastly more expensive than standard duct pieces.
u22 - did you ever manage to work out how to do this? where did you get your duct/door pieces from in the end? We're looking to do the same thing, but think the kits are ridiculously expensive for what is in effect just a couple of pipes stuck together with a door. |
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wrote in message ... I thought exactly the same Andy - seems vastly more expensive than standard duct pieces. u22 - did you ever manage to work out how to do this? where did you get your duct/door pieces from in the end? We're looking to do the same thing, but think the kits are ridiculously expensive for what is in effect just a couple of pipes stuck together with a door. There are big issues with laundry spontaneously catching fire. That is why laundry chutes are so expensive. Fire resisting, smoke issues, alarms etc. People killed in the past. Very bad idea in a domestic house. |
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harryagain wrote:
There are big issues with laundry spontaneously catching fire. Oily rags I've heard of, but has anyone else heard of household laundry spontaneously combusting, or is it only on Planet Harry? |
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"Andy Burns" wrote in message o.uk... harryagain wrote: There are big issues with laundry spontaneously catching fire. Oily rags I've heard of, but has anyone else heard of household laundry spontaneously combusting, or is it only on Planet Harry? I can't help you being thick. http://www.mcclureindustries.com/Rep...s_Ignition.pdf https://www.laundrychutesolutions.co...utes-are-safe/ http://www.coinlaundry.org/blog/safe...rvice-laundry/ |
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On Sunday, 9 March 2014 09:03:20 UTC, harry wrote:
"Andy Burns" wrote in message o.uk... harryagain wrote: There are big issues with laundry spontaneously catching fire. Oily rags I've heard of, but has anyone else heard of household laundry spontaneously combusting, or is it only on Planet Harry? I can't help you being thick. http://www.mcclureindustries.com/Rep...s_Ignition.pdf let's see: "spontaneous combustion of items which had been removed from hot dryers and placed in polyethylene plastic transport carts." "the source of ignition was spontaneous combustion caused by residual chemicals in the laundered fabric reacting to the heat of the dryer." Not really anything to do with chutes is it? https://www.laundrychutesolutions.co...utes-are-safe/ let's see:- "Laundry chutes are safe and doors supplied with UK 1hr fire rating Laundry chutes are safe and doors supplied with UK 1hr fire rating More information soon!" Well F me that's conclusive! http://www.coinlaundry.org/blog/safe...rvice-laundry/ let's see:- "she doesn't wait for the dryer cycle to finish completely; she removes the clothes and towels before they are totally dry and before the cool-down cycle has begun. The hot, still-moist garments are folded neatly, stuffed into a laundry bag and placed under the counter. With her work done for the day, the attendant locks up the store and goes home. About four hours later, the owners receive a call that their business has been totaled due to fire - and the probable cause is spontaneous combustion from that wash-dry-fold bundle under the counter." nothing to do with laundry chutes then.... What a load of OT cock Harry (again). Jim K |
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Rather than have a chute, I have invented a way of washing bed sheets
automatically. The sheets are in a loop that goes across the bed, through a slot in the wall and down through the washing machine and dryer then back up to the bedroom. Each day the loop moves across so a clean piece of sheet goes over the bed. Possibly it needs a pressure switch to stop the sheet moving if someone is in the bed. |
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On 09/03/2014 11:11, MattyF wrote:
Rather than have a chute, I have invented a way of washing bed sheets automatically. The sheets are in a loop that goes across the bed, through a slot in the wall and down through the washing machine and dryer then back up to the bedroom. Each day the loop moves across so a clean piece of sheet goes over the bed. Possibly it needs a pressure switch to stop the sheet moving if someone is in the bed. No need, just shape the slot to roll them over onto whoever is sleeping next to them. |
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"Jim K" wrote in message ... On Sunday, 9 March 2014 09:03:20 UTC, harry wrote: "Andy Burns" wrote in message o.uk... harryagain wrote: There are big issues with laundry spontaneously catching fire. Oily rags I've heard of, but has anyone else heard of household laundry spontaneously combusting, or is it only on Planet Harry? I can't help you being thick. http://www.mcclureindustries.com/Rep...s_Ignition.pdf let's see: "spontaneous combustion of items which had been removed from hot dryers and placed in polyethylene plastic transport carts." "the source of ignition was spontaneous combustion caused by residual chemicals in the laundered fabric reacting to the heat of the dryer." Not really anything to do with chutes is it? https://www.laundrychutesolutions.co...utes-are-safe/ let's see:- "Laundry chutes are safe and doors supplied with UK 1hr fire rating Laundry chutes are safe and doors supplied with UK 1hr fire rating More information soon!" Well F me that's conclusive! nothing to do with laundry chutes then.... Hey ****-fer-brains Any mass of laundry can catch fire spontaneously especially if it's a bit damp. Just as a pile of damp hay can catch fire. Laundry chute fires are a known hazard, the doors are specially designed to stop heat and smoke penetrating the building. I have seen such a fire myself in a hospital. |
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"MattyF" wrote in message ... Rather than have a chute, I have invented a way of washing bed sheets automatically. The sheets are in a loop that goes across the bed, through a slot in the wall and down through the washing machine and dryer then back up to the bedroom. Each day the loop moves across so a clean piece of sheet goes over the bed. Possibly it needs a pressure switch to stop the sheet moving if someone is in the bed. Are you barking mad? |
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"harryagain" wrote in message ... "MattyF" wrote in message ... Rather than have a chute, I have invented a way of washing bed sheets automatically. The sheets are in a loop that goes across the bed, through a slot in the wall and down through the washing machine and dryer then back up to the bedroom. Each day the loop moves across so a clean piece of sheet goes over the bed. Possibly it needs a pressure switch to stop the sheet moving if someone is in the bed. Are you barking mad? Did you get your SoH bypass on the NHS ? |
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On Sun, 09 Mar 2014 18:45:59 +0000, harryagain wrote:
"MattyF" wrote in message ... Rather than have a chute, I have invented a way of washing bed sheets automatically. The sheets are in a loop that goes across the bed, through a slot in the wall and down through the washing machine and dryer then back up to the bedroom. Each day the loop moves across so a clean piece of sheet goes over the bed. Possibly it needs a pressure switch to stop the sheet moving if someone is in the bed. Are you barking mad? I think the original question has been answered OK. As you should know, I am an expert at solving weird problems and invent extreme solutions. I hate boring things like washing and housework. |
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Hi Guys,
If you are looking to install your own chute then check this out; http://www.laundrychute.co.uk/blog-E...lation_Ins.htm alternatively I know they do fittings themselves should you struggle to do it yourselves. Will |
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The angle of the chute needs to be steep enough
to shoot Norman Wisdom onto a hospital trolley 10ft away, and launch the trolley down a 50ft hospital corridor at around 10 mph. HTH michael adams .... |
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On 14/03/2016 11:48, michael adams wrote:
The angle of the chute needs to be steep enough to shoot Norman Wisdom onto a hospital trolley 10ft away, and launch the trolley down a 50ft hospital corridor at around 10 mph. HTH michael adams We've never had one, but they seem quite a good idea. The main problem I foresee is stopping small children climbing in. |
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On Mon, 14 Mar 2016 11:59:37 +0000, GB wrote:
On 14/03/2016 11:48, michael adams wrote: The angle of the chute needs to be steep enough to shoot Norman Wisdom onto a hospital trolley 10ft away, and launch the trolley down a 50ft hospital corridor at around 10 mph. HTH michael adams We've never had one, but they seem quite a good idea. The main problem I foresee is stopping small children climbing in. And the interesting fire regulations that are no doubt required. |
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On 14/03/2016 13:17, Bob Eager wrote:
On Mon, 14 Mar 2016 11:59:37 +0000, GB wrote: On 14/03/2016 11:48, michael adams wrote: The angle of the chute needs to be steep enough to shoot Norman Wisdom onto a hospital trolley 10ft away, and launch the trolley down a 50ft hospital corridor at around 10 mph. HTH michael adams We've never had one, but they seem quite a good idea. The main problem I foresee is stopping small children climbing in. And the interesting fire regulations that are no doubt required. Hadn't thought of that. Would that be a big issue for a typical two storey private house? |
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On Mon, 14 Mar 2016 13:35:25 +0000, GB wrote:
On 14/03/2016 13:17, Bob Eager wrote: On Mon, 14 Mar 2016 11:59:37 +0000, GB wrote: On 14/03/2016 11:48, michael adams wrote: The angle of the chute needs to be steep enough to shoot Norman Wisdom onto a hospital trolley 10ft away, and launch the trolley down a 50ft hospital corridor at around 10 mph. HTH michael adams We've never had one, but they seem quite a good idea. The main problem I foresee is stopping small children climbing in. And the interesting fire regulations that are no doubt required. Hadn't thought of that. Would that be a big issue for a typical two storey private house? No idea, but I'm sure someoen here will know. |
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GB wrote: On 14/03/2016 11:48, michael adams wrote: The angle of the chute needs to be steep enough to shoot Norman Wisdom onto a hospital trolley 10ft away, and launch the trolley down a 50ft hospital corridor at around 10 mph. HTH michael adams We've never had one, but they seem quite a good idea. The main problem I foresee is stopping small children climbing in. We owned a house with one once, but it was too small to be of any use except for socks and knickers, and the other end in the basement was hard to get at. So we used the part in the kitchen as a convenient booze cupboard instead. It held a bottle of whisky and a bottle of vodka perfectly. -- Davey. |
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On Mon, 14 Mar 2016 11:59:37 -0000, GB wrote:
On 14/03/2016 11:48, michael adams wrote: The angle of the chute needs to be steep enough to shoot Norman Wisdom onto a hospital trolley 10ft away, and launch the trolley down a 50ft hospital corridor at around 10 mph. HTH michael adams We've never had one, but they seem quite a good idea. The main problem I foresee is stopping small children climbing in. Why is that a problem, they'd love it, it's just like a waterslide. -- Mick and Paddy are reading head stones at a nearby cemetery. Mick says "Crikey! There's a bloke here who was 152!" Paddy says "What's his name?" Mick replies "Miles, from London!" |
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n Mon, 14 Mar 2016 13:17:32 -0000, Bob Eager wrote:
On Mon, 14 Mar 2016 11:59:37 +0000, GB wrote: On 14/03/2016 11:48, michael adams wrote: The angle of the chute needs to be steep enough to shoot Norman Wisdom onto a hospital trolley 10ft away, and launch the trolley down a 50ft hospital corridor at around 10 mph. HTH michael adams We've never had one, but they seem quite a good idea. The main problem I foresee is stopping small children climbing in. And the interesting fire regulations that are no doubt required. Surely you could just call it a fire escape. And it lets no more smoke through than say a.... stairwell! -- Mick and Paddy are reading head stones at a nearby cemetery. Mick says "Crikey! There's a bloke here who was 152!" Paddy says "What's his name?" Mick replies "Miles, from London!" |
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On Mon, 14 Mar 2016 13:35:25 -0000, GB wrote:
On 14/03/2016 13:17, Bob Eager wrote: On Mon, 14 Mar 2016 11:59:37 +0000, GB wrote: On 14/03/2016 11:48, michael adams wrote: The angle of the chute needs to be steep enough to shoot Norman Wisdom onto a hospital trolley 10ft away, and launch the trolley down a 50ft hospital corridor at around 10 mph. HTH michael adams We've never had one, but they seem quite a good idea. The main problem I foresee is stopping small children climbing in. And the interesting fire regulations that are no doubt required. Hadn't thought of that. Would that be a big issue for a typical two storey private house? Anything is an issue for planning regulation morons. -- It's always funny, until someone gets hurt... then it's just hilarious. |
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