Is it still possible buy a proper ratchet screwdriver that doesn't have
interchangeable tips and a handle that rips skin after the third screw? I
don't want a powered tool either. I can see some antiques on eBay but
nothing new even from a junk maker like Draper.

On Apr 5, 2:25*pm, "Geoff Pearson" wrote:
Is it still possible buy a proper ratchet screwdriver *that doesn't have
interchangeable tips and a handle that rips skin after the third screw? *I
don't want a powered tool either. *I can see some antiques on eBay but
nothing new even from a junk maker like Draper.

Why not get an antique.


NT

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Geoff Pearson wrote:
Is it still possible buy a proper ratchet screwdriver that doesn't have
interchangeable tips and a handle that rips skin after the third screw?
I don't want a powered tool either. I can see some antiques on eBay
but nothing new even from a junk maker like Draper.


You might do better buying an old but good one anyway. It's not like there
will have been developments since they were common.

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What is wrong with interchangable bits?

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"Geoff Pearson" wrote in message
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Is it still possible buy a proper ratchet screwdriver that doesn't have
interchangeable tips and a handle that rips skin after the third screw? I
don't want a powered tool either. I can see some antiques on eBay but
nothing new even from a junk maker like Draper.

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What is wrong with interchangable bits?

Brian

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"Geoff Pearson" wrote in message
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Is it still possible buy a proper ratchet screwdriver that doesn't have
interchangeable tips and a handle that rips skin after the third screw?
I don't want a powered tool either. I can see some antiques on eBay but
nothing new even from a junk maker like Draper.



They fall out and get lost and you can never get the same turning force on
them. When the right antique turns up on eBay, I will buy it. It is much
easier to work on old things, like houses and furniture, with the tools that
made them in the first place (accepting that ratchets are only 75 years
old).

On 05/04/2012 15:32, Geoff Pearson wrote:

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
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What is wrong with interchangable bits?

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"Geoff Pearson" wrote in message
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Is it still possible buy a proper ratchet screwdriver that doesn't
have interchangeable tips and a handle that rips skin after the third
screw? I don't want a powered tool either. I can see some antiques on
eBay but nothing new even from a junk maker like Draper.



They fall out and get lost and you can never get the same turning force
on them. When the right antique turns up on eBay, I will buy it. It is
much easier to work on old things, like houses and furniture, with the
tools that made them in the first place (accepting that ratchets are
only 75 years old).

Even the old style have interchangeable bits

http://www.tooled-up.com/Product.asp...ferrer=froogle

I still use my original Stanley Yankee now and again

On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 16:05:05 +0100
stuart noble wrote:

Even the old style have interchangeable bits

http://www.tooled-up.com/Product.asp...ferrer=froogle

That's a new fangled one. The real ones are like this
http://www.antique-used-tools.com/Yank10A_sdr_4_New.jpg and he wants
US $99 for it. Doubt if my old one's worth anything though.

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On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 16:05:05 +0100
stuart noble wrote:

Even the old style have interchangeable bits

http://www.tooled-up.com/Product.asp...ferrer=froogle

That's what I call a "Barry Becknell" who remembers him?


That's a new fangled one. The real ones are like this
http://www.antique-used-tools.com/Yank10A_sdr_4_New.jpg and he wants
US $99 for it. Doubt if my old one's worth anything though.

I've got one of those, and still use it occasionally.

Mike

On 05/04/2012 14:25, Geoff Pearson wrote:
Is it still possible buy a proper ratchet screwdriver that doesn't have
interchangeable tips and a handle that rips skin after the third screw?
I don't want a powered tool either. I can see some antiques on eBay but
nothing new even from a junk maker like Draper.

I'm all for tradition, but I'd never go back to one. Do you stick with
traditional slotted screws? (Permitted for antique repair, of course,
but then I'd use a normal screwdriver).

Since I never throw anything away I must have a Yankee somewhere, and a
couple of loose bits. Hands up who else remembers Barry Bucknell.

Muddymike wrote:

That's what I call a "Barry Becknell" who remembers him?

Almost nobody, sadly, largely because even when he was active he was totally
overshadowed by his much more famous imitator, Barry Bucknall.

Bert

On Thu, 5 Apr 2012 14:25:14 +0100, "Geoff Pearson"
wrote:

Is it still possible buy a proper ratchet screwdriver that doesn't have
interchangeable tips and a handle that rips skin after the third screw? I
don't want a powered tool either. I can see some antiques on eBay but
nothing new even from a junk maker like Draper.

Do you mean this?

http://www.spear-and-jackson.com/pro...atchet/ratchet

Several hardware stores near me are purported to be suppliers: check
the dealers list and see if there is anyone near you.

Nick

....or even Barry Bucknell. Damn!

Bert

Geoff Pearson wrote
Brian Gaff wrote

Is it still possible buy a proper ratchet screwdriver that doesn't
have interchangeable tips and a handle that rips skin after the
third screw? I don't want a powered tool either. I can see some
antiques on eBay but nothing new even from a junk maker like Draper.

What is wrong with interchangable bits?

They fall out and get lost

Easily fixed by supergluing the bit you want into the driver.

and you can never get the same turning force on them.

You can get much more actually with the better designed ones that
allow you to put a spanner on the non round shaft if you need to.

When the right antique turns up on eBay, I will buy it.

It is much easier to work on old things, like houses and
furniture, with the tools that made them in the first place

Dont agree with that when you can use proper modern
impact drivers that werent even available then.

(accepting that ratchets are only 75 years old).

stuart noble wrote:
On 05/04/2012 15:32, Geoff Pearson wrote:

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
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What is wrong with interchangable bits?

Brian

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"Geoff Pearson" wrote in message
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Is it still possible buy a proper ratchet screwdriver that doesn't
have interchangeable tips and a handle that rips skin after the
third screw? I don't want a powered tool either. I can see some
antiques on eBay but nothing new even from a junk maker like
Draper.



They fall out and get lost and you can never get the same turning
force on them. When the right antique turns up on eBay, I will buy
it. It is much easier to work on old things, like houses and
furniture, with the tools that made them in the first place
(accepting that ratchets are only 75 years old).

Even the old style have interchangeable bits

Nope, the originals didnt.

http://www.tooled-up.com/Product.asp...ferrer=froogle

I still use my original Stanley Yankee now and again

That wasnt one of the antiques.

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On Thu, 5 Apr 2012 14:25:14 +0100, "Geoff Pearson"
wrote:

Is it still possible buy a proper ratchet screwdriver that doesn't have
interchangeable tips and a handle that rips skin after the third screw? I
don't want a powered tool either. I can see some antiques on eBay but
nothing new even from a junk maker like Draper.

Do you mean this?

http://www.spear-and-jackson.com/pro...atchet/ratchet

Several hardware stores near me are purported to be suppliers: check
the dealers list and see if there is anyone near you.

Nick

That's it - many thanks.

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On 05/04/2012 14:25, Geoff Pearson wrote:
Is it still possible buy a proper ratchet screwdriver that doesn't have
interchangeable tips and a handle that rips skin after the third screw?
I don't want a powered tool either. I can see some antiques on eBay but
nothing new even from a junk maker like Draper.

I'm all for tradition, but I'd never go back to one. Do you stick with
traditional slotted screws? (Permitted for antique repair, of course, but
then I'd use a normal screwdriver).

Since I never throw anything away I must have a Yankee somewhere, and a
couple of loose bits. Hands up who else remembers Barry Bucknell.

Barry Bucknell provided much work for many as we remove the lunacies he
purveyed - the hardboard cover on a nice panelled door, for example. Held
with panel pins - what else.

Geoff Pearson wrote:


"newshound" wrote in message
b.com...
On 05/04/2012 14:25, Geoff Pearson wrote:
Is it still possible buy a proper ratchet screwdriver that doesn't have
interchangeable tips and a handle that rips skin after the third screw?
I don't want a powered tool either. I can see some antiques on eBay but
nothing new even from a junk maker like Draper.

I'm all for tradition, but I'd never go back to one. Do you stick with
traditional slotted screws? (Permitted for antique repair, of course, but
then I'd use a normal screwdriver).

Since I never throw anything away I must have a Yankee somewhere, and a
couple of loose bits. Hands up who else remembers Barry Bucknell.

Barry Bucknell provided much work for many as we remove the lunacies he
purveyed - the hardboard cover on a nice panelled door, for example. Held
with panel pins - what else.

Be grateful - if he lived in this century, it would have been "no more
nailed" on - think of the fun...
--
Tim Watts

....or even Barry Bucknell. Damn!

Bert



What's a misplaced vowel between friend :-)

Mike

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...or even Barry Bucknell. Damn!

Bert


What's a misplaced vowel between friend :-)

Mike

that will be a vowel movement, no doubt.

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On 05/04/2012 14:25, Geoff Pearson wrote:
Is it still possible buy a proper ratchet screwdriver that doesn't have
interchangeable tips and a handle that rips skin after the third screw?
I don't want a powered tool either. I can see some antiques on eBay but
nothing new even from a junk maker like Draper.

I'm all for tradition, but I'd never go back to one. Do you stick with
traditional slotted screws? (Permitted for antique repair, of course, but
then I'd use a normal screwdriver).

Since I never throw anything away I must have a Yankee somewhere, and a
couple of loose bits. Hands up who else remembers Barry Bucknell.

He was my inspiration to get my hands on my Dad's engine. He had a program
on TV apart from DIY, that showed you how to take the engine out of a Morris
Minor 1000 and strip it down. And yes, before anyone asks, Dad did let strip
his engine down and put it back together without any spare screws (bolts)
left over and it worked first time. Would even consider doing it to a modern
car now.
Jim G

On Apr 5, 2:25*pm, "Geoff Pearson" wrote:
Is it still possible buy a proper ratchet screwdriver *that doesn't have
interchangeable tips and a handle that rips skin after the third screw? *I
don't want a powered tool either. *I can see some antiques on eBay but
nothing new even from a junk maker like Draper.

What would you like to pay for a pair of old Yankees in vgc with cross
and flat screwdriving bits?


NT

On Sat, 7 Apr 2012 04:35:38 -0700 (PDT), NT
wrote:

What would you like to pay for a pair of old Yankees

Ten dollah!

"NT" wrote in message
...
On Apr 5, 2:25 pm, "Geoff Pearson" wrote:
Is it still possible buy a proper ratchet screwdriver that doesn't have
interchangeable tips and a handle that rips skin after the third screw?
I
don't want a powered tool either. I can see some antiques on eBay but
nothing new even from a junk maker like Draper.

What would you like to pay for a pair of old Yankees in vgc with cross
and flat screwdriving bits?


NT

If the Yankee is pump action then nothing. Sorry.

On 08/04/2012 06:27, Geoff Pearson wrote:
If the Yankee is pump action then nothing. Sorry.

Why not?

Andy

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On 08/04/2012 06:27, Geoff Pearson wrote:
If the Yankee is pump action then nothing. Sorry.

Why not?

Andy

no control - jumps out of screw and ruins work.

On 08/04/2012 18:04, Geoff Pearson wrote:

"Andy Champ" wrote in message
. uk...
On 08/04/2012 06:27, Geoff Pearson wrote:
If the Yankee is pump action then nothing. Sorry.

Why not?

Andy

no control - jumps out of screw and ruins work.

Lock the pump bit then. Still a whopping ratchet driver

On Apr 8, 7:46*pm, stuart noble wrote:
On 08/04/2012 18:04, Geoff Pearson wrote:



"Andy Champ" wrote in message
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On 08/04/2012 06:27, Geoff Pearson wrote:
If the Yankee is pump action then nothing. Sorry.

Why not?

Andy

no control - jumps out of screw and ruins work.

Lock the pump bit then. Still a whopping ratchet driver

Spiralux yankee`s were much more robust than Stanleys

Cheers
Adam

On 08/04/2012 21:24, Adam Aglionby wrote:
On Apr 8, 7:46 pm, stuart wrote:
On 08/04/2012 18:04, Geoff Pearson wrote:



"Andy wrote in message
. uk...
On 08/04/2012 06:27, Geoff Pearson wrote:
If the Yankee is pump action then nothing. Sorry.

Why not?

Andy

no control - jumps out of screw and ruins work.

Lock the pump bit then. Still a whopping ratchet driver

Spiralux yankee`s were much more robust than Stanleys

Cheers
Adam

Yes, my Stanley's only been around for about 40 years :-)

In article ,
stuart noble wrote:
On 08/04/2012 21:24, Adam Aglionby wrote:
On Apr 8, 7:46 pm, stuart wrote:
On 08/04/2012 18:04, Geoff Pearson wrote:



"Andy wrote in message
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On 08/04/2012 06:27, Geoff Pearson wrote:
If the Yankee is pump action then nothing. Sorry.

Why not?

Andy

no control - jumps out of screw and ruins work.

Lock the pump bit then. Still a whopping ratchet driver

Spiralux yankee`s were much more robust than Stanleys

Cheers
Adam

Yes, my Stanley's only been around for about 40 years :-)

I bought mine in 1962!

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On Apr 9, 10:33*am, stuart noble wrote:
On 08/04/2012 21:24, Adam Aglionby wrote:









On Apr 8, 7:46 pm, stuart *wrote:
On 08/04/2012 18:04, Geoff Pearson wrote:

"Andy *wrote in message
et.uk...
On 08/04/2012 06:27, Geoff Pearson wrote:
If the Yankee is pump action then nothing. Sorry.

Why not?

Andy

no control - jumps out of screw and ruins work.

Lock the pump bit then. Still a whopping ratchet driver

Spiralux yankee`s were much more robust than Stanleys

Cheers
Adam

Yes, my Stanley's only been around for about 40 years :-)

One of my first jobs was fixing seats in a rock venue, they needed
fixing a lot.

Stanley tools in general are decent quality but Spiralux Yankee`s
easily outlived the Stanleys that tended to launch the ratchet out the
tube after some abuse. Cordless tools were just a fantasy at the time.

Looking it up Spiralux Tools Ltd was re-registered in 1997 , currently
dormant but leads to Spear and Jackson`s site.

Cheers
Adam

On 08/04/2012 18:04, Geoff Pearson wrote:
no control - jumps out of screw and ruins work.

OK, nothing I didn't know about. Thanks.

Andy

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Andy Champ wrote:
On 08/04/2012 18:04, Geoff Pearson wrote:
no control - jumps out of screw and ruins work.

OK, nothing I didn't know about. Thanks.

Pump action screwdrivers were very common in TV etc set construction. When
the BBC changed from slotted to Pozidriv screws in the '60s, accidental
injury from these screwdrivers dropped by 80%.

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In article ,
Andy Champ wrote:
On 08/04/2012 18:04, Geoff Pearson wrote:
no control - jumps out of screw and ruins work.

OK, nothing I didn't know about. Thanks.

Pump action screwdrivers were very common in TV etc set construction. When
the BBC changed from slotted to Pozidriv screws in the '60s, accidental
injury from these screwdrivers dropped by 80%.

I certainly bought mine for scenery building - at university.

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"charles" wrote in message
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In article ,
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Andy Champ wrote:
On 08/04/2012 18:04, Geoff Pearson wrote:
no control - jumps out of screw and ruins work.

OK, nothing I didn't know about. Thanks.

Pump action screwdrivers were very common in TV etc set construction.
When
the BBC changed from slotted to Pozidriv screws in the '60s, accidental
injury from these screwdrivers dropped by 80%.

I certainly bought mine for scenery building - at university.

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I use my screwdrivers as much for undoing screws as doing them up. Yankee
is no good for undoing.

I use my screwdrivers as much for undoing screws as doing them up.

Versatile aren't they? :-)