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T i m April 4th 12 01:50 PM

Fixing to concrete fence posts?
 
Hi all,

We have been 'repairing' (where repairing has so far meant 2 x new
concrete posts, 2 x 12" gravel boards and 2 x 5' panels) nextdoors
rear fence (as he lets us use his garden) but it's sorta expanded a
bit to the end of the party fence between him and the next next door
neighbour. Neither of them care what I do (as long as I improve things
g) [1] but now I have a new post ending the run of panels down the
party bit a couple of feet from the (new) post that joins two panels
across the back ally fence (so forming a 'T' etc). The place we bought
the gravel boards from say they don't supply 'T' posts any more (too
large / heavy) but 'common practice' is to fit an 'End' next to the
'Inline' in the same hole. ;-(

So, rather than breaking out the newly Postcreted hole, I've read it's
acceptable to (carefully) drill / plug these concrete posts and
therefore maybe fit 3 of the little 'U' section metal fence panel
'clips' and use them on the alley fence post on one side and the std
'inline' post slot on the end of the party fence line?

I can make a gravel board from a 2' concrete slab (good excuse to buy
a 9 Angle Grinder g) that can be set in the ground and sit on the
concrete post mounts so that will take all the weight of a 2' wide by
5' high cut-down panel and so the load on the screws in the concrete
posts will mainly be in shear (wind loading).

So, what does the panel think please?

Cheers, T i m

[1] And this is partly for me as 1) I use his garden and 2) I'm going
to put a shed / store up at the bottom of the garden so a) had to do
something with the old fence that was falling to bits, b) won't be
able to get easy access to all this after any shed is up and c) don't
want anyone else damaging my stuff when 'they' try to fix any of it
(you wouldn't believe what others have done before me). ;-)

p.s. We pulled some fair size chunks of concrete out of the ground in
and around this fence project. The next day and before we thought
about lugging them up the dump and mate called who I don't speak to
that often on the 'scrounge' for any concrete / hardcore / soil as he
was filling in an old fishpond in his garden. "Yes of course you can
come round now and take it away ...!" ;-)

TheScullster April 4th 12 03:34 PM

Fixing to concrete fence posts?
 
"T i m" wrote

Hi all,

We have been 'repairing' (where repairing has so far meant 2 x new
concrete posts, 2 x 12" gravel boards and 2 x 5' panels) nextdoors
rear fence (as he lets us use his garden) but it's sorta expanded a
bit to the end of the party fence between him and the next next door
neighbour. Neither of them care what I do (as long as I improve things
g) [1] but now I have a new post ending the run of panels down the
party bit a couple of feet from the (new) post that joins two panels
across the back ally fence (so forming a 'T' etc). The place we bought
the gravel boards from say they don't supply 'T' posts any more (too
large / heavy) but 'common practice' is to fit an 'End' next to the
'Inline' in the same hole. ;-(

So, rather than breaking out the newly Postcreted hole, I've read it's
acceptable to (carefully) drill / plug these concrete posts and
therefore maybe fit 3 of the little 'U' section metal fence panel
'clips' and use them on the alley fence post on one side and the std
'inline' post slot on the end of the party fence line?

I can make a gravel board from a 2' concrete slab (good excuse to buy
a 9 Angle Grinder g) that can be set in the ground and sit on the
concrete post mounts so that will take all the weight of a 2' wide by
5' high cut-down panel and so the load on the screws in the concrete
posts will mainly be in shear (wind loading).

So, what does the panel think please?

Cheers, T i m

[1] And this is partly for me as 1) I use his garden and 2) I'm going
to put a shed / store up at the bottom of the garden so a) had to do
something with the old fence that was falling to bits, b) won't be
able to get easy access to all this after any shed is up and c) don't
want anyone else damaging my stuff when 'they' try to fix any of it
(you wouldn't believe what others have done before me). ;-)

p.s. We pulled some fair size chunks of concrete out of the ground in
and around this fence project. The next day and before we thought
about lugging them up the dump and mate called who I don't speak to
that often on the 'scrounge' for any concrete / hardcore / soil as he
was filling in an old fishpond in his garden. "Yes of course you can
come round now and take it away ...!" ;-)


Some concrete posts have a couple of decent size holes in them already.
For hanging a gate on, I used bolts throught these holes to secure a wooden
post up against the installed concrete one.
Do your posts have holes already and if so can you use this method to help
with the junction?

Phil



T i m April 4th 12 06:07 PM

Fixing to concrete fence posts?
 
On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 15:34:17 +0100, "TheScullster"
wrote:


So, rather than breaking out the newly Postcreted hole, I've read it's
acceptable to (carefully) drill / plug these concrete posts and
therefore maybe fit 3 of the little 'U' section metal fence panel
'clips' and use them on the alley fence post on one side and the std
'inline' post slot on the end of the party fence line?



Some concrete posts have a couple of decent size holes in them already.


As these do but unfortunately in the wrong plane. ie, they go through
the post in the slots rather than across the post in the plain faces
(well, so it seems anyway).

For hanging a gate on, I used bolts throught these holes to secure a wooden
post up against the installed concrete one.


Yes, this is how the back gate is hung ... on wooden 'post's (they are
actually nearly 4x4"!) coach bolted to / though the concrete posts. In
fact on the fence-side post, the coach bolts went through wood,
concrete, wood and when I took one wood off to use the slot in the
concrete I cut the seized nuts off the bolts with a cutting disk on
the mini angle grinder through the post then put a 10mm thread on them
to suit the new shorter role g).

Do your posts have holes already and if so can you use this method to help
with the junction?


I was thinking that rather than drilling holes in the posts I could
use another of my favourite d-i-y things and glue (bond?) the U
brackets with the full-fat Gripfill or CT1?

Cheers, T i m


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