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If Scotland gets independence
Do we have to rename the newsgroup?
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ARWadsworth wrote:
Do we have to rename the newsgroup? For the United Kingdom of England, Wales and Northern Ireland...? Nah, I'm just waiting for Scotland to harmonise on 110v. JGH |
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On Thu, 8 Mar 2012 14:07:27 -0800 (PST), jgharston
wrote: ARWadsworth wrote: Do we have to rename the newsgroup? For the United Kingdom of England, Wales and Northern Ireland...? Nah, I'm just waiting for Scotland to harmonise on 110v. d.c. -- Frank Erskine |
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"ARWadsworth" wrote in message ... Do we have to rename the newsgroup? On the Now Show (BBC Radio 4) they asked the audience for suggestions as to what the UK should be called if Scotland got independence. Best answer was Scot Free. -- Tinkerer |
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Tinkerer wrote
ARWadsworth wrote Do we have to rename the newsgroup? On the Now Show (BBC Radio 4) they asked the audience for suggestions as to what the UK should be called if Scotland got independence. Best answer was Scot Free. Trouble is that it wouldnt be, there'd still be hordes of them |
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Rod Speed wrote:
Tinkerer wrote ARWadsworth wrote Do we have to rename the newsgroup? On the Now Show (BBC Radio 4) they asked the audience for suggestions as to what the UK should be called if Scotland got independence. Best answer was Scot Free. Trouble is that it wouldnt be, there'd still be hordes of them yebbut we could close the borders right? -- To people who know nothing, anything is possible. To people who know too much, it is a sad fact that they know how little is really possible - and how hard it is to achieve it. |
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If Scotland gets independence
The Natural Philosopher wrote
Rod Speed wrote Tinkerer wrote ARWadsworth wrote Do we have to rename the newsgroup? On the Now Show (BBC Radio 4) they asked the audience for suggestions as to what the UK should be called if Scotland got independence. Best answer was Scot Free. Trouble is that it wouldnt be, there'd still be hordes of them yebbut we could close the borders right? Wrong. The EU doesnt allow that. They'd have to leave the EU too before you could do that and I doubt even the most rabid hairly legged barbarian in a dress is actually THAT stupid. |
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In message , Rod Speed
writes The Natural Philosopher wrote Rod Speed wrote Tinkerer wrote ARWadsworth wrote Do we have to rename the newsgroup? On the Now Show (BBC Radio 4) they asked the audience for suggestions as to what the UK should be called if Scotland got independence. Best answer was Scot Free. Trouble is that it wouldnt be, there'd still be hordes of them yebbut we could close the borders right? Wrong. The EU doesnt allow that. They'd have to leave the EU too before you could do that and I doubt even the most rabid hairly legged barbarian in a dress is actually THAT stupid. AIUI an independent Scotland would have to re-apply for membership of the Eu, assuming they wished to join, and it is a non-negotiable condition for new members that they join the euro. They would then be subject to fiscal control by Brussels - and do you think that lot will be able to keep their grubby little hands off the oil revenues. If I were Shetland I'd start an Independence from Scotland move right now. -- hugh |
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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... Rod Speed wrote: Tinkerer wrote ARWadsworth wrote Do we have to rename the newsgroup? On the Now Show (BBC Radio 4) they asked the audience for suggestions as to what the UK should be called if Scotland got independence. Best answer was Scot Free. Trouble is that it wouldnt be, there'd still be hordes of them yebbut we could close the borders right? Yes, and drive plantpot Jocks back over the border. |
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Doctor Drivel wrote
The Natural Philosopher wrote Rod Speed wrote: Tinkerer wrote ARWadsworth wrote Do we have to rename the newsgroup? On the Now Show (BBC Radio 4) they asked the audience for suggestions as to what the UK should be called if Scotland got independence. Best answer was Scot Free. Trouble is that it wouldnt be, there'd still be hordes of them yebbut we could close the borders right? Yes, and drive plantpot Jocks back over the border. Might not work too well. There are likely rather more of them in the military than you lot. |
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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... Rod Speed wrote: Tinkerer wrote ARWadsworth wrote Do we have to rename the newsgroup? On the Now Show (BBC Radio 4) they asked the audience for suggestions as to what the UK should be called if Scotland got independence. Best answer was Scot Free. Trouble is that it wouldnt be, there'd still be hordes of them yebbut we could close the borders right? Welsh & Scots devolution puts Glasgow, Edinburgh and Cardiff in great situations to English cities. The devolved countries have the power to introduce their taxation. There was a debate on Land Valuation Taxation in the Welsh Assembly recently. Glasgow is "re-attempting" to get Land Valuation Taxation implemented. This is difficult to do in England as the United Kingdom government have to pass this sort of tax. Liverpool with derelict buildings, similar to Glasgow, attempted to get Land Valuation Taxation through to clear up the dilapidated buildings a few years ago. Josh Vincent of Center for the Study of Economics in the USA, went to Liverpool to advise to local government, but Whitehall officials beat them down. Some people over the years in Liverpool have suggested Merseyside, in England, be incorporated into Wales. This sounds a good idea. OK Southport, St.Helens and New-le-Willows would want to move out and back to Lancashire, which is understandable as they are very Lancastrian. Fine. Neston on the Wirral, Runcorn/Widnes (Halton) can take their place. Then Wales will have two big cities, one north and one south, and they will have control over their own affairs, partially removing the dead paw of London. A great positive solution all around. |
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Doctor Drivel wrote:
Liverpool with derelict buildings, similar to Glasgow, attempted to get Land Valuation Taxation through to clear up the dilapidated buildings a few years ago. How would Land Valuation Taxation clear up dilapidated buildings? Knowing the way governments operate, the revenue would just go straight to Whitehall just as non-domestic rates does. JGH |
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The Irish are about to implement SVT (Site Value Tax). Land Value Tax on a
local level replacing the equiv of Council Tax. http://smarttaxes.org/ They will have High Level Group meeting this Thursday. They will report their advice on a land value tax within a couple of weeks. If they recommend SVT, it could be implemented within the year. It looks like the Irish are way ahead of us. http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/4130922...2012++copy.pdf |
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On Mar 13, 9:44*pm, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , *"Doctor Drivel" wrote: "The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... Rod Speed wrote: Tinkerer wrote ARWadsworth wrote Do we have to rename the newsgroup? On the Now Show (BBC Radio 4) they asked the audience for suggestions as to what the UK should be called if Scotland got independence. *Best answer was Scot Free. Trouble is that it wouldnt be, there'd still be hordes of them yebbut we could close the borders right? Welsh & Scots devolution puts Glasgow, Edinburgh and Cardiff in great situations to English cities. The devolved countries have the power to introduce their taxation. There was a debate on Land Valuation Taxation in the Welsh Assembly recently. Glasgow is "re-attempting" to get Land Valuation Taxation implemented. This is difficult to do in England as the United Kingdom government have to pass this sort of tax. Liverpool with derelict buildings, similar to Glasgow, attempted to get Land Valuation Taxation through to clear up the dilapidated buildings a few years ago.* Josh Vincent of Center for the Study of Economics in the USA, went to Liverpool to advise to local government, but Whitehall officials beat them down. Some people over the years in Liverpool have suggested Merseyside, in England, be incorporated into Wales. This sounds a good idea. OK Southport, St.Helens and New-le-Willows would want to move out and back to Lancashire, which is understandable as they are very Lancastrian. *Fine. Neston on the Wirral, Runcorn/Widnes (Halton) can take their place. Then Wales will have two big cities, one north and one south, and they will have control over their own affairs, partially removing the dead paw of London. A great positive solution all around. Can Flint move out of Wales then? AIUI, there's no ethnic Welsh living there. -- Tim "That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted" *-- *Bill of Rights 1689- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - There is only ethnic Welsh in parts of the extreme west of Wales. |
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Tinkerer wrote:
"ARWadsworth" wrote in message ... Do we have to rename the newsgroup? On the Now Show (BBC Radio 4) they asked the audience for suggestions as to what the UK should be called if Scotland got independence. Best answer was Scot Free. ROFLMAO! -- To people who know nothing, anything is possible. To people who know too much, it is a sad fact that they know how little is really possible - and how hard it is to achieve it. |
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You cannot rename newsgroups or indeed delete them as far as I know, only
create new ones or disconnect them from the distribution list. Brian -- Brian Gaff....Note, this account does not accept Bcc: email. graphics are great, but the blind can't hear them Email: __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________ "ARWadsworth" wrote in message ... Do we have to rename the newsgroup? -- Adam |
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Brian Gaff wrote
ARWadsworth wrote Do we have to rename the newsgroup? You cannot rename newsgroups or indeed delete them as far as I know, You can in fact delete them if you know how to do that, but with most groups someone will just reverse that very quickly. only create new ones or disconnect them from the distribution list. You cant disconnect them either with most major news servers. |
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No but there does seem to be somone doing so in the various heirarchies, so
it has to come from a central source. Also of course control messages from people without the required privs will often be ignored as you noted. Brian -- Brian Gaff - Note:- In order to reduce spam, any email without 'Brian Gaff' in the display name may be lost. Blind user, so no pictures please! "Rod Speed" wrote in message ... Brian Gaff wrote ARWadsworth wrote Do we have to rename the newsgroup? You cannot rename newsgroups or indeed delete them as far as I know, You can in fact delete them if you know how to do that, but with most groups someone will just reverse that very quickly. only create new ones or disconnect them from the distribution list. You cant disconnect them either with most major news servers. |
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Brian Gaff wrote:
Rod Speed wrote Brian Gaff wrote ARWadsworth wrote Do we have to rename the newsgroup? You cannot rename newsgroups or indeed delete them as far as I know, You can in fact delete them if you know how to do that, but with most groups someone will just reverse that very quickly. only create new ones or disconnect them from the distribution list. You cant disconnect them either with most major news servers. No but there does seem to be somone doing so in the various heirarchies, Doing what ? so it has to come from a central source. Nope. Also of course control messages from people without the required privs will often be ignored as you noted. It isnt hard get them if you know what you are doing. |
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all the threads
that confuses a top poster Oh look "Brian Gaff" wrote in message ... No but there does seem to be somone doing so in the various heirarchies, so it has to come from a central source. Also of course control messages from people without the required privs will often be ignored as you noted. Brian -- Brian Gaff - Note:- In order to reduce spam, any email without 'Brian Gaff' in the display name may be lost. Blind user, so no pictures please! "Rod Speed" wrote in message ... Brian Gaff wrote ARWadsworth wrote Do we have to rename the newsgroup? You cannot rename newsgroups or indeed delete them as far as I know, You can in fact delete them if you know how to do that, but with most groups someone will just reverse that very quickly. only create new ones or disconnect them from the distribution list. You cant disconnect them either with most major news servers. |
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On 12/03/2012 21:34, Doctor Drivel wrote:
all the threads that confuses a top poster Oh look Read Brian's signature. Andy |
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In message , Brian Gaff
writes You cannot rename newsgroups or indeed delete them as far as I know, only create new ones or disconnect them from the distribution list. Brian Err brian it's not a wholly serious question -- geoff |
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