bosch washing machine programs take a long time
I've got a Bosch WFG2020 washing machine. If I use the wash programs down
the right had side of the timer the programs take ages to complete, sometimes up to 4-5 hours, but if I use the programs on the left they're all fine and complete in a correct time-frame. Any ideas on what the problem could be? I know what you're thinking, why not just use the programs on the left? I would but I live with my mum who won't stop moaning about it, and now I've been given an ultimatum. Thanks for any advice...about the machine that is... |
bosch washing machine programs take a long time
tg wrote:
I've got a Bosch WFG2020 washing machine. If I use the wash programs down the right had side of the timer the programs take ages to complete, sometimes up to 4-5 hours, but if I use the programs on the left they're all fine and complete in a correct time-frame. Any ideas on what the problem could be? I know what you're thinking, why not just use the programs on the left? I would but I live with my mum who won't stop moaning about it, and now I've been given an ultimatum. Thanks for any advice...about the machine that is... The ones on the right are for cottons/linens and the ones on the left are for easycare etc, so presumably whatever determines the timing etc for those is likely whats failed. Still hard to see why that should just take a lot longer than normal as opposed to not working at all tho. |
bosch washing machine programs take a long time
On Mar 4, 5:46*am, "tg" wrote:
I've got a Bosch WFG2020 washing machine. If I use the wash programs down the right had side of the timer the programs take ages to complete, sometimes up to 4-5 hours, but if I use the programs on the left they're all fine and complete in a correct time-frame. Any ideas on what the problem could be? I know what you're thinking, why not just use the programs on the left? I would but I live with my mum who won't stop moaning about it, and now I've been given an ultimatum. Thanks for any advice...about the machine that is... First thing to check is, is the machine filling with water at a reasonable rate? If not how is the water pressure and if OK check the filter. You disconnect the hose from the machine, filter is inside the threaded bit on the machine. If not fill problem,you have to determine which part of the cycle is taking so long. Eg,could be a problem with the waste pipe being blocked (takes a long time to empty.) |
bosch washing machine programs take a long time
harry wrote:
On Mar 4, 5:46 am, "tg" wrote: I've got a Bosch WFG2020 washing machine. If I use the wash programs down the right had side of the timer the programs take ages to complete, sometimes up to 4-5 hours, but if I use the programs on the left they're all fine and complete in a correct time-frame. Any ideas on what the problem could be? I know what you're thinking, why not just use the programs on the left? I would but I live with my mum who won't stop moaning about it, and now I've been given an ultimatum. Thanks for any advice...about the machine that is... First thing to check is, is the machine filling with water at a reasonable rate? If not how is the water pressure and if OK check the filter. You disconnect the hose from the machine, filter is inside the threaded bit on the machine. If not fill problem,you have to determine which part of the cycle is taking so long. Eg,could be a problem with the waste pipe being blocked (takes a long time to empty.) If not, do they use flash ROM to hold the program on these things? If so, then it could conceivably get corrupted. Or there may be a bad joint on one of the data/ clock/ addressing pins on the microprocessor. -- Tciao for Now! John. |
bosch washing machine programs take a long time
thanks for the responses.
The machine fills fine, empties fine and heats the water fine. What I have noticed though is after the machine heats the water to the right temperature, the heater goes off (which is correct) but then the machine is still washing the clothes in the same hot water an hour later. I tested this using a 90 degree wash on the right hand side of the timer. The heater doesn't come back on once it goes off but the washing cycle just carries on. It's still washing the clothers in the same hot water as I write. So my question(s) is: 1) do you think it's the controller? 2) should the heater go on and off a few times or just the once? thanks for any further pointers. |
bosch washing machine programs take a long time
On 04/03/2012 13:45, tg wrote:
thanks for the responses. The machine fills fine, empties fine and heats the water fine. What I have noticed though is after the machine heats the water to the right temperature, the heater goes off (which is correct) but then the machine is still washing the clothes in the same hot water an hour later. I tested this using a 90 degree wash on the right hand side of the timer. The heater doesn't come back on once it goes off but the washing cycle just carries on. It's still washing the clothers in the same hot water as I write. So my question(s) is: 1) do you think it's the controller? 2) should the heater go on and off a few times or just the once? thanks for any further pointers. Is it actually reaching the target temperature? Often on hot washes the program waits in a holding state until the temperature is reached. It could indicate a failing heater or temperature sensor... -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
bosch washing machine programs take a long time
On Mar 4, 4:07*pm, John Rumm wrote:
On 04/03/2012 13:45, tg wrote: thanks for the responses. The machine fills fine, empties fine and heats the water fine. What I have noticed though is after the machine heats the water to the right temperature, the heater goes off (which is correct) but then the machine is still washing the clothes in the same hot water an hour later. I tested this using a 90 degree wash on the right hand side of the timer. The heater doesn't come back on once it goes off but the washing cycle just carries on. It's still washing the clothers in the same hot water as I write. So my question(s) is: 1) do you think it's the controller? 2) should the heater go on and off a few times or just the once? thanks for any further pointers. Is it actually reaching the target temperature? Often on hot washes the program waits in a holding state until the temperature is reached. It could indicate a failing heater or temperature sensor... If the temp sensor fails, either the water will boil, or it'll wash for the usual time or less, and below temp. If the heater were failing, the water would heat up faster, or not at all. My money's on the controller. NT |
bosch washing machine programs take a long time
"NT" wrote in message ... My money's on the controller. The water temperature appears to be correct for the heat setting. I took the controller board out and noticed overheating on it, marked by lines of soot along the conductor print. It looks as though the coil device on the other side is the cause of the heat. I suppose I'll just have to take the gamble on the price of a replacement board. I can't think what else it could be. |
bosch washing machine programs take a long time
tg wrote:
thanks for the responses. The machine fills fine, empties fine and heats the water fine. What I have noticed though is after the machine heats the water to the right temperature, the heater goes off (which is correct) but then the machine is still washing the clothes in the same hot water an hour later. I tested this using a 90 degree wash on the right hand side of the timer. The heater doesn't come back on once it goes off but the washing cycle just carries on. It's still washing the clothers in the same hot water as I write. So my question(s) is: 1) do you think it's the controller? Likely, cant see why the timing should be miles out just with the ones on the right. 2) should the heater go on and off a few times or just the once? Dunno, I dont have a front loader and dont heat the water anyway, I only ever cold wash. I wouldnt expect that it would bother to heat more than once, but dont know that. thanks for any further pointers. |
bosch washing machine programs take a long time
On 04/03/2012 19:23, NT wrote:
On Mar 4, 4:07 pm, John wrote: On 04/03/2012 13:45, tg wrote: thanks for the responses. The machine fills fine, empties fine and heats the water fine. What I have noticed though is after the machine heats the water to the right temperature, the heater goes off (which is correct) but then the machine is still washing the clothes in the same hot water an hour later. I tested this using a 90 degree wash on the right hand side of the timer. The heater doesn't come back on once it goes off but the washing cycle just carries on. It's still washing the clothers in the same hot water as I write. So my question(s) is: 1) do you think it's the controller? 2) should the heater go on and off a few times or just the once? thanks for any further pointers. Is it actually reaching the target temperature? Often on hot washes the program waits in a holding state until the temperature is reached. It could indicate a failing heater or temperature sensor... If the temp sensor fails, either the water will boil, or it'll wash for the usual time or less, and below temp. Note if the heater has an over temp cutout... If the heater were failing, the water would heat up faster, or not at all. My money's on the controller. Yup, they do get stuck sometimes... tis what killed our last dishwasher in the end. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
bosch washing machine programs take a long time
On 04/03/2012 19:29, tg wrote:
"NT" wrote in message ... My money's on the controller. The water temperature appears to be correct for the heat setting. I took the controller board out and noticed overheating on it, marked by lines of soot along the conductor print. It looks as though the coil device on the other side is the cause of the heat. I suppose I'll just have to take the gamble on the price of a replacement board. I can't think what else it could be. What sort of parts were there on the board? (i.e. would they be replaceable for less than the cost of a new board, or where there lots of unidentifiable ICs?) -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
bosch washing machine programs take a long time
On Mar 4, 7:23*pm, NT wrote:
On Mar 4, 4:07*pm, John Rumm wrote: On 04/03/2012 13:45, tg wrote: thanks for the responses. The machine fills fine, empties fine and heats the water fine. What I have noticed though is after the machine heats the water to the right temperature, the heater goes off (which is correct) but then the machine is still washing the clothes in the same hot water an hour later. I tested this using a 90 degree wash on the right hand side of the timer. The heater doesn't come back on once it goes off but the washing cycle just carries on. It's still washing the clothers in the same hot water as I write. So my question(s) is: 1) do you think it's the controller? 2) should the heater go on and off a few times or just the once? thanks for any further pointers. Is it actually reaching the target temperature? Often on hot washes the program waits in a holding state until the temperature is reached. It could indicate a failing heater or temperature sensor... If the temp sensor fails, either the water will boil, or it'll wash for the usual time or less, and below temp. If the heater were failing, the water would heat up faster, or not at all. My money's on the controller. NT- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - +1 on controller. |
bosch washing machine programs take a long time
On Mar 5, 1:24*am, John Rumm wrote:
On 04/03/2012 19:23, NT wrote: On Mar 4, 4:07 pm, John *wrote: On 04/03/2012 13:45, tg wrote: thanks for the responses. The machine fills fine, empties fine and heats the water fine. What I have noticed though is after the machine heats the water to the right temperature, the heater goes off (which is correct) but then the machine is still washing the clothes in the same hot water an hour later. I tested this using a 90 degree wash on the right hand side of the timer. The heater doesn't come back on once it goes off but the washing cycle just carries on. It's still washing the clothers in the same hot water as I write. So my question(s) is: 1) do you think it's the controller? 2) should the heater go on and off a few times or just the once? thanks for any further pointers. Is it actually reaching the target temperature? Often on hot washes the program waits in a holding state until the temperature is reached. It could indicate a failing heater or temperature sensor... If the temp sensor fails, either the water will boil, or it'll wash for the usual time or less, and below temp. Note if the heater has an over temp cutout... I've never seen a WM element with any sort of cutout, but things might have moved on. Its not a safety issue if it boils though, so I wouldnt expect to ever see one. If the heater were failing, the water would heat up faster, or not at all. My money's on the controller. Yup, they do get stuck sometimes... tis what killed our last dishwasher in the end. |
bosch washing machine programs take a long time
"John Rumm" wrote in message o.uk... On 04/03/2012 19:29, tg wrote: snip What sort of parts were there on the board? (i.e. would they be replaceable for less than the cost of a new board, or where there lots of unidentifiable ICs?) it was the coiled device next to the heatsink. I think they call them inductors but I haven't a clue what the rating of it is or where I could get another. Nothing is printed on it. The boards are £154 (+ vat?) new from bosch uk so I'll wait for one to come up on ebay. The machine is entirely useable in the meantime and I've re-assembled it and it's washing now. I'll have to cope with a moaning mum until then. |
bosch washing machine programs take a long time
On 06/03/2012 10:37, tg wrote:
"John Rumm" wrote in message o.uk... On 04/03/2012 19:29, tg wrote: snip What sort of parts were there on the board? (i.e. would they be replaceable for less than the cost of a new board, or where there lots of unidentifiable ICs?) it was the coiled device next to the heatsink. I think they call them inductors but I haven't a clue what the rating of it is or where I could get another. Depends a bit on the type... to be fair they don't usually fail even if they have got a bit hot. Replacements can be bought ready made or made from bits depending on the type. You would need a LCR meter or something similar to read its value directly - its not the sort of reading most multimeters can do directly. However it would be quite easy to assess its value with a suitable AC source and a ammeter (assuming its still basically working!) Nothing is printed on it. The boards are £154 (+ vat?) new from bosch uk so I'll wait for one to come up on ebay. The machine is entirely useable in the meantime and I've re-assembled it and it's washing now. I'll have to cope with a moaning mum until then. ;-) -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
bosch washing machine programs take a long time
Den söndag 4 mars 2012 kl. 06:46:48 UTC+1 skrev tg:
I've got a Bosch WFG2020 washing machine. If I use the wash programs down the right had side of the timer the programs take ages to complete, sometimes up to 4-5 hours, but if I use the programs on the left they're all fine and complete in a correct time-frame. Any ideas on what the problem could be? I know what you're thinking, why not just use the programs on the left? I would but I live with my mum who won't stop moaning about it, and now I've been given an ultimatum. Thanks for any advice...about the machine that is... |
bosch washing machine programs take a long time
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bosch washing machine programs take a long time
On Thursday, 28 March 2019 20:14:30 UTC, Bill Wright wrote:
On 28/03/2019 18:00, wrote: Den söndag 4 mars 2012 kl. 06:46:48 UTC+1 skrev tg: I've got a Bosch WFG2020 washing machine. If I use the wash programs down the right had side of the timer the programs take ages to complete, sometimes up to 4-5 hours, but if I use the programs on the left they're all fine and complete in a correct time-frame. Any ideas on what the problem could be? I know what you're thinking, why not just use the programs on the left? I would but I live with my mum who won't stop moaning about it, and now I've been given an ultimatum. Thanks for any advice...about the machine that is... RTFM. It might be meant to be like that, for people who set it in the morning then go to work. Bill he's had time to read it thousands of times |
bosch washing machine programs take a long time
Yes exactly, and my fix would be stick some fablon over the ones you don't
want! Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! wrote in message ... On Thursday, 28 March 2019 20:14:30 UTC, Bill Wright wrote: On 28/03/2019 18:00, wrote: Den söndag 4 mars 2012 kl. 06:46:48 UTC+1 skrev tg: I've got a Bosch WFG2020 washing machine. If I use the wash programs down the right had side of the timer the programs take ages to complete, sometimes up to 4-5 hours, but if I use the programs on the left they're all fine and complete in a correct time-frame. Any ideas on what the problem could be? I know what you're thinking, why not just use the programs on the left? I would but I live with my mum who won't stop moaning about it, and now I've been given an ultimatum. Thanks for any advice...about the machine that is... RTFM. It might be meant to be like that, for people who set it in the morning then go to work. Bill he's had time to read it thousands of times |
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