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How much space does a shower need?
It's a rather basic question but I can't find straightforward answers
anywhere. We're [re]designing an area in our house and want to install a new shower (among other things). In order to plan the layout we need to know how much space a shower needs. It might be a dedicated shower room or, if it fits, we might squeeze it into the existing downstairs loo. So any advice, pointers, etc. as to minimum and/or sensible sizes for a shower would be very welcome. -- Chris Green |
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On Jan 6, 10:46 am, wrote:
It's a rather basic question but I can't find straightforward answers anywhere. We're [re]designing an area in our house and want to install a new shower (among other things). In order to plan the layout we need to know how much space a shower needs. It might be a dedicated shower room or, if it fits, we might squeeze it into the existing downstairs loo. So any advice, pointers, etc. as to minimum and/or sensible sizes for a shower would be very welcome. -- Chris Green industry standard (look at shower tray sizes) vs personal taste (how small dare you go)? Jim K |
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wrote in message ... It's a rather basic question but I can't find straightforward answers anywhere. We're [re]designing an area in our house and want to install a new shower (among other things). In order to plan the layout we need to know how much space a shower needs. It might be a dedicated shower room or, if it fits, we might squeeze it into the existing downstairs loo. So any advice, pointers, etc. as to minimum and/or sensible sizes for a shower would be very welcome. Our current shower tray is 750mm * 750mm. Elbow room is a little less as the shower screen is inboard of the edge. I wouldn't like to go any smaller than that unless the whole family is built on budget lines. I am 6 foot tall and can manage in this, but I haven't tried to bend over in the shower (not that I could anyway). AFAIK this is a standard small shower cubicle. If you want to go for a full wet room then you have more flexibility as long as you can cover up the loo (And especially the toilet paper) when you are showering. For a small shower there are benefits in having the shower head over the middle of the area pointing down instead of taking up wall space. Cheers Dave R -- No plan survives contact with the enemy. [Not even bunny] Helmuth von Moltke the Elder (\__/) (='.'=) (")_(") |
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On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 12:23:01 -0000, David WE Roberts wrote:
I am 6 foot tall and can manage in this, but I haven't tried to bend over in the shower (not that I could anyway). I guess you squat to pick up the dropped soap or WHY. Washing lower legs is tricky without bending and or lifting it up. For a small shower there are benefits in having the shower head over the middle of the area pointing down instead of taking up wall space. Except then you can't get away from it to lather up or if it suddenly gets hot/cold. I find most shower on/off controls difficult to use with hands covered in lather. -- Cheers Dave. |
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"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message ll.co.uk... On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 12:23:01 -0000, David WE Roberts wrote: I am 6 foot tall and can manage in this, but I haven't tried to bend over in the shower (not that I could anyway). I guess you squat to pick up the dropped soap or WHY. Washing lower legs is tricky without bending and or lifting it up. For a small shower there are benefits in having the shower head over the middle of the area pointing down instead of taking up wall space. Except then you can't get away from it to lather up or if it suddenly gets hot/cold. I find most shower on/off controls difficult to use with hands covered in lather. Thermostatic shower control? Although that wouldn't sort the cold watrer only problem. -- No plan survives contact with the enemy. [Not even bunny] Helmuth von Moltke the Elder (\__/) (='.'=) (")_(") |
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On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 13:54:57 -0000, David WE Roberts wrote:
Except then you can't get away from it to lather up or if it suddenly gets hot/cold. I find most shower on/off controls difficult to use with hands covered in lather. Thermostatic shower control? Although that wouldn't sort the cold watrer only problem. Thermostatic have a lag though some are quite quick but the main problem with not being able to get out of the shower water is that you can't lather up well without the soap/detergent getting washed away. Most controls are too fiddly to use with wet soapy hands. -- Cheers Dave. |
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On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 15:37:49 +0000, Graham. wrote:
I wish someone would do something similar when designing public lavatory cubicals. All too often there is barely enough space to squeeze past he inward opening door and the pan, and I am not in the least overweight, quite the reverse. There is often ample space for bigger cubicles. The worst is in a local Starbucks coffee shop. The lavatory is tiny, and it's almost impossible to avoid setting off the hand drier as you stand there for a pee. You can just about shuffle round on the spot to wash your hands. It's a little bit easier to use the disabled one, or use a public loo nearby where there's loads of room. -- Frank Erskine |
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John Rumm wrote:
On 06/01/2012 10:46, wrote: It's a rather basic question but I can't find straightforward answers anywhere. We're [re]designing an area in our house and want to install a new shower (among other things). In order to plan the layout we need to know how much space a shower needs. It might be a dedicated shower room or, if it fits, we might squeeze it into the existing downstairs loo. So any advice, pointers, etc. as to minimum and/or sensible sizes for a shower would be very welcome. The smallest normal trays are about 750 square. Personally I find these too cramped, 850mm ones are just about usable. However much depends on the size of the people using it! The standard enclosures are often about 1.85m tall, and these I find too short! (I am about 6'3"). ISTR I found 600mmm square somewhere, but I could be wrong Make yer own enclosures out of tiled stud wall and or toughened glass .. |
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The Natural Philosopher wrote:
John Rumm wrote: On 06/01/2012 10:46, wrote: It's a rather basic question but I can't find straightforward answers anywhere. We're [re]designing an area in our house and want to install a new shower (among other things). In order to plan the layout we need to know how much space a shower needs. It might be a dedicated shower room or, if it fits, we might squeeze it into the existing downstairs loo. So any advice, pointers, etc. as to minimum and/or sensible sizes for a shower would be very welcome. The smallest normal trays are about 750 square. Personally I find these too cramped, 850mm ones are just about usable. However much depends on the size of the people using it! The standard enclosures are often about 1.85m tall, and these I find too short! (I am about 6'3"). ISTR I found 600mmm square somewhere, but I could be wrong http://www.bathroomtrade.co.uk/squar...ay-white.html? |
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On 06/01/2012 19:46, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote: John Rumm wrote: The smallest normal trays are about 750 square. Personally I find these too cramped, 850mm ones are just about usable. However much depends on the size of the people using it! The standard enclosures are often about 1.85m tall, and these I find too short! (I am about 6'3"). ISTR I found 600mmm square somewhere, but I could be wrong http://www.bathroomtrade.co.uk/squar...ay-white.html? Now that is getting silly. I would not know whether to get in that, or put it on! I would have to stand diagonally... -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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John Rumm :
On 06/01/2012 19:46, The Natural Philosopher wrote: The Natural Philosopher wrote: John Rumm wrote: The smallest normal trays are about 750 square. Personally I find these too cramped, 850mm ones are just about usable. However much depends on the size of the people using it! The standard enclosures are often about 1.85m tall, and these I find too short! (I am about 6'3"). ISTR I found 600mmm square somewhere, but I could be wrong http://www.bathroomtrade.co.uk/squar...ay-white.html? Now that is getting silly. I would not know whether to get in that, or put it on! I would have to stand diagonally... Take another look. It's designed for people with an optional leg. -- Mike Barnes |
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On Jan 6, 12:23*pm, "David WE Roberts" wrote:
wrote in ... It's a rather basic question but I can't find straightforward answers anywhere. We're [re]designing an area in our house and want to install a new shower (among other things). *In order to plan the layout we need to know how much space a shower needs. *It might be a dedicated shower room or, if it fits, we might squeeze it into the existing downstairs loo. So any advice, pointers, etc. as to minimum and/or sensible sizes for a shower would be very welcome. Our current shower tray is 750mm * 750mm. Elbow room is a little less as the shower screen is inboard of the edge. I wouldn't like to go any smaller than that unless the whole family is built on budget lines. I am 6 foot tall and can manage in this, but I haven't tried to bend over in the shower (not that I could anyway). AFAIK this is a standard small shower cubicle. If you want to go for a full wet room then you have more flexibility as long as you can cover up the loo (And especially the toilet paper) when you are showering. For a small shower there are benefits in having the shower head over the middle of the area pointing down instead of taking up wall space. Cheers Dave R -- No plan survives contact with the enemy. [Not even bunny] Helmuth von Moltke the Elder (\__/) (='.'=) (")_(") Wet room - ours is 1500 x 1600 - could lose a little I suppose but there's never any problems with bending over, lifting a leg, or anything else which is a double entendre ! If you do go this way, I laid the base concrete such that the shower area of 800mm square was about 50mm below floor level and I used 150mm quarry tiles to tile the whole thing making sure that the whole floor drained into the shower basin. Friends took the idea but the stupid builder didn't lay the floor properly and the room has to be swept each time one has a shower. Rob |
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The Natural Philosopher wrote:
John Rumm wrote: On 06/01/2012 10:46, wrote: It's a rather basic question but I can't find straightforward answers anywhere. We're [re]designing an area in our house and want to install a new shower (among other things). In order to plan the layout we need to know how much space a shower needs. It might be a dedicated shower room or, if it fits, we might squeeze it into the existing downstairs loo. So any advice, pointers, etc. as to minimum and/or sensible sizes for a shower would be very welcome. The smallest normal trays are about 750 square. Personally I find these too cramped, 850mm ones are just about usable. However much depends on the size of the people using it! The standard enclosures are often about 1.85m tall, and these I find too short! (I am about 6'3"). That is a point I must take into account, our son (for whom the shower is being installed) is 6'6". He's quite used to managing in places designed for 'normal' sized people though, it comes with the territory. -- Chris Green |
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The Natural wrote: John Rumm wrote: On 06/01/2012 10:46, wrote: It's a rather basic question but I can't find straightforward answers anywhere. We're [re]designing an area in our house and want to install a new shower (among other things). In order to plan the layout we need to know how much space a shower needs. It might be a dedicated shower room or, if it fits, we might squeeze it into the existing downstairs loo. So any advice, pointers, etc. as to minimum and/or sensible sizes for a shower would be very welcome. The smallest normal trays are about 750 square. Personally I find these too cramped, 850mm ones are just about usable. However much depends on the size of the people using it! The standard enclosures are often about 1.85m tall, and these I find too short! (I am about 6'3"). That is a point I must take into account, our son (for whom the shower is being installed) is 6'6". He's quite used to managing in places designed for 'normal' sized people though, it comes with the territory. As long as you have the room height, then the shower mount itself can allow the head to reach higher than the top of the enclosure. However if you extend this too far, then you get the problem of the spray escaping more into the room. The last one I did, I managed to find an enclosure that was 1.95m tall. Add that to the 100mm of upstand on the tray, and it was about enough for me... although he obviously has another three inches of height to deal with. (skipping the pre-made enclosure and using three walls and a screen may also solve the problem!) -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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Rumm writes On 07/01/2012 11:20, wrote: The Natural wrote: John Rumm wrote: On 06/01/2012 10:46, wrote: It's a rather basic question but I can't find straightforward answers anywhere. We're [re]designing an area in our house and want to install a new shower (among other things). In order to plan the layout we need to know how much space a shower needs. It might be a dedicated shower room or, if it fits, we might squeeze it into the existing downstairs loo. So any advice, pointers, etc. as to minimum and/or sensible sizes for a shower would be very welcome. The smallest normal trays are about 750 square. Personally I find these too cramped, 850mm ones are just about usable. However much depends on the size of the people using it! The standard enclosures are often about 1.85m tall, and these I find too short! (I am about 6'3"). That is a point I must take into account, our son (for whom the shower is being installed) is 6'6". He's quite used to managing in places designed for 'normal' sized people though, it comes with the territory. As long as you have the room height, then the shower mount itself can allow the head to reach higher than the top of the enclosure. However if you extend this too far, then you get the problem of the spray escaping more into the room. The last one I did, I managed to find an enclosure that was 1.95m tall. Add that to the 100mm of upstand on the tray, and it was about enough for me... although he obviously has another three inches of height to deal with. (skipping the pre-made enclosure and using three walls and a screen may also solve the problem!) Just measured mine.... H 1900 W700 L1150 with a 650 pivot door. These are tile to tile measurements with the actual tray slightly smaller. Suits a largish farmer very well: no trouble washing between my toes:-) Nice to have the rack for shampoo, soap etc. outside the reach of the spray head. regards -- Tim Lamb |
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On 06/01/2012 17:49, fred wrote:
In article , writes It's a rather basic question but I can't find straightforward answers anywhere. We're [re]designing an area in our house and want to install a new shower (among other things). In order to plan the layout we need to know how much space a shower needs. It might be a dedicated shower room or, if it fits, we might squeeze it into the existing downstairs loo. So any advice, pointers, etc. as to minimum and/or sensible sizes for a shower would be very welcome. I'm doing similar and am planning for 1000x800 which is towards the opulent end without being ridiculously expensive due to rarity. I like a rectangular shape and the shower will be mounted on a narrow side, spraying along the length. At the other end of the scale, 750 square would be (is) annoyingly small for me. I'll use a stock base for simplicity rather than rolling my own with tiles and tanking. If you're interested, I'll be using a standard bar shower mixer for easy replacement when it fails[1}. [1] that's when, not if, or in case ;-) My 700 x 1150 (internal dimensions) is a nice size. Room for two, if you can find someone similarly inclined.... |
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