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[email protected] January 6th 12 11:46 AM

How much space does a shower need?
 
It's a rather basic question but I can't find straightforward answers
anywhere.

We're [re]designing an area in our house and want to install a new
shower (among other things). In order to plan the layout we need to
know how much space a shower needs. It might be a dedicated shower
room or, if it fits, we might squeeze it into the existing downstairs
loo.

So any advice, pointers, etc. as to minimum and/or sensible sizes for
a shower would be very welcome.

--
Chris Green

Jim K[_3_] January 6th 12 12:03 PM

How much space does a shower need?
 
On Jan 6, 10:46 am, wrote:
It's a rather basic question but I can't find straightforward answers
anywhere.

We're [re]designing an area in our house and want to install a new
shower (among other things). In order to plan the layout we need to
know how much space a shower needs. It might be a dedicated shower
room or, if it fits, we might squeeze it into the existing downstairs
loo.

So any advice, pointers, etc. as to minimum and/or sensible sizes for
a shower would be very welcome.

--
Chris Green


industry standard (look at shower tray sizes) vs personal taste (how
small dare you go)?

Jim K

David WE Roberts[_4_] January 6th 12 01:23 PM

How much space does a shower need?
 

wrote in message ...
It's a rather basic question but I can't find straightforward answers
anywhere.

We're [re]designing an area in our house and want to install a new
shower (among other things). In order to plan the layout we need to
know how much space a shower needs. It might be a dedicated shower
room or, if it fits, we might squeeze it into the existing downstairs
loo.

So any advice, pointers, etc. as to minimum and/or sensible sizes for
a shower would be very welcome.



Our current shower tray is 750mm * 750mm.
Elbow room is a little less as the shower screen is inboard of the edge.
I wouldn't like to go any smaller than that unless the whole family is built
on budget lines.
I am 6 foot tall and can manage in this, but I haven't tried to bend over in
the shower (not that I could anyway).
AFAIK this is a standard small shower cubicle.
If you want to go for a full wet room then you have more flexibility as long
as you can cover up the loo (And especially the toilet paper) when you are
showering.
For a small shower there are benefits in having the shower head over the
middle of the area pointing down instead of taking up wall space.

Cheers

Dave R
--
No plan survives contact with the enemy.
[Not even bunny]

Helmuth von Moltke the Elder

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(='.'=)
(")_(")


Dave Liquorice[_3_] January 6th 12 01:34 PM

How much space does a shower need?
 
On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 12:23:01 -0000, David WE Roberts wrote:

I am 6 foot tall and can manage in this, but I haven't tried to bend
over in the shower (not that I could anyway).


I guess you squat to pick up the dropped soap or WHY. Washing lower
legs is tricky without bending and or lifting it up.

For a small shower there are benefits in having the shower head over the
middle of the area pointing down instead of taking up wall space.


Except then you can't get away from it to lather up or if it suddenly
gets hot/cold. I find most shower on/off controls difficult to use
with hands covered in lather.

--
Cheers
Dave.




David WE Roberts[_4_] January 6th 12 02:54 PM

How much space does a shower need?
 

"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ll.co.uk...
On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 12:23:01 -0000, David WE Roberts wrote:

I am 6 foot tall and can manage in this, but I haven't tried to bend
over in the shower (not that I could anyway).


I guess you squat to pick up the dropped soap or WHY. Washing lower
legs is tricky without bending and or lifting it up.

For a small shower there are benefits in having the shower head over the
middle of the area pointing down instead of taking up wall space.


Except then you can't get away from it to lather up or if it suddenly
gets hot/cold. I find most shower on/off controls difficult to use
with hands covered in lather.



Thermostatic shower control?
Although that wouldn't sort the cold watrer only problem.

--
No plan survives contact with the enemy.
[Not even bunny]

Helmuth von Moltke the Elder

(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")


Dave Liquorice[_3_] January 6th 12 04:05 PM

How much space does a shower need?
 
On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 13:54:57 -0000, David WE Roberts wrote:

Except then you can't get away from it to lather up or if it

suddenly
gets hot/cold. I find most shower on/off controls difficult to use
with hands covered in lather.


Thermostatic shower control?
Although that wouldn't sort the cold watrer only problem.


Thermostatic have a lag though some are quite quick but the main
problem with not being able to get out of the shower water is that
you can't lather up well without the soap/detergent getting washed
away. Most controls are too fiddly to use with wet soapy hands.

--
Cheers
Dave.




Roger Mills[_2_] January 6th 12 04:12 PM

How much space does a shower need?
 
On 06/01/2012 10:46, wrote:
It's a rather basic question but I can't find straightforward answers
anywhere.

We're [re]designing an area in our house and want to install a new
shower (among other things). In order to plan the layout we need to
know how much space a shower needs. It might be a dedicated shower
room or, if it fits, we might squeeze it into the existing downstairs
loo.

So any advice, pointers, etc. as to minimum and/or sensible sizes for
a shower would be very welcome.

If you really want *minimum* dimensions, have a look at a few touring
caravans!
--
Cheers,
Roger
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Frank Erskine January 6th 12 04:56 PM

How much space does a shower need?
 
On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 15:37:49 +0000, Graham. wrote:


I wish someone would do something similar when designing public
lavatory cubicals.
All too often there is barely enough space to squeeze past he inward
opening door and the pan, and I am not in the least overweight, quite
the reverse. There is often ample space for bigger cubicles.


The worst is in a local Starbucks coffee shop. The lavatory is tiny,
and it's almost impossible to avoid setting off the hand drier as you
stand there for a pee. You can just about shuffle round on the spot to
wash your hands.
It's a little bit easier to use the disabled one, or use a public loo
nearby where there's loads of room.

--
Frank Erskine

fred January 6th 12 06:49 PM

How much space does a shower need?
 
In article , writes
It's a rather basic question but I can't find straightforward answers
anywhere.

We're [re]designing an area in our house and want to install a new
shower (among other things). In order to plan the layout we need to
know how much space a shower needs. It might be a dedicated shower
room or, if it fits, we might squeeze it into the existing downstairs
loo.

So any advice, pointers, etc. as to minimum and/or sensible sizes for
a shower would be very welcome.

I'm doing similar and am planning for 1000x800 which is towards the
opulent end without being ridiculously expensive due to rarity. I like a
rectangular shape and the shower will be mounted on a narrow side,
spraying along the length. At the other end of the scale, 750 square
would be (is) annoyingly small for me. I'll use a stock base for
simplicity rather than rolling my own with tiles and tanking.

If you're interested, I'll be using a standard bar shower mixer for easy
replacement when it fails[1}.

[1] that's when, not if, or in case ;-)
--
fred
it's a ba-na-na . . . .

John Rumm January 6th 12 07:16 PM

How much space does a shower need?
 
On 06/01/2012 10:46, wrote:

It's a rather basic question but I can't find straightforward answers
anywhere.

We're [re]designing an area in our house and want to install a new
shower (among other things). In order to plan the layout we need to
know how much space a shower needs. It might be a dedicated shower
room or, if it fits, we might squeeze it into the existing downstairs
loo.

So any advice, pointers, etc. as to minimum and/or sensible sizes for
a shower would be very welcome.


The smallest normal trays are about 750 square. Personally I find these
too cramped, 850mm ones are just about usable. However much depends on
the size of the people using it! The standard enclosures are often about
1.85m tall, and these I find too short! (I am about 6'3").


--
Cheers,

John.

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The Natural Philosopher[_2_] January 6th 12 08:12 PM

How much space does a shower need?
 
John Rumm wrote:
On 06/01/2012 10:46, wrote:

It's a rather basic question but I can't find straightforward answers
anywhere.

We're [re]designing an area in our house and want to install a new
shower (among other things). In order to plan the layout we need to
know how much space a shower needs. It might be a dedicated shower
room or, if it fits, we might squeeze it into the existing downstairs
loo.

So any advice, pointers, etc. as to minimum and/or sensible sizes for
a shower would be very welcome.


The smallest normal trays are about 750 square. Personally I find these
too cramped, 850mm ones are just about usable. However much depends on
the size of the people using it! The standard enclosures are often about
1.85m tall, and these I find too short! (I am about 6'3").


ISTR I found 600mmm square somewhere, but I could be wrong


Make yer own enclosures out of tiled stud wall and or toughened glass ..

The Natural Philosopher[_2_] January 6th 12 08:46 PM

How much space does a shower need?
 
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
John Rumm wrote:
On 06/01/2012 10:46, wrote:

It's a rather basic question but I can't find straightforward answers
anywhere.

We're [re]designing an area in our house and want to install a new
shower (among other things). In order to plan the layout we need to
know how much space a shower needs. It might be a dedicated shower
room or, if it fits, we might squeeze it into the existing downstairs
loo.

So any advice, pointers, etc. as to minimum and/or sensible sizes for
a shower would be very welcome.


The smallest normal trays are about 750 square. Personally I find
these too cramped, 850mm ones are just about usable. However much
depends on the size of the people using it! The standard enclosures
are often about 1.85m tall, and these I find too short! (I am about
6'3").


ISTR I found 600mmm square somewhere, but I could be wrong



http://www.bathroomtrade.co.uk/squar...ay-white.html?

John Rumm January 6th 12 11:27 PM

How much space does a shower need?
 
On 06/01/2012 19:46, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
John Rumm wrote:


The smallest normal trays are about 750 square. Personally I find
these too cramped, 850mm ones are just about usable. However much
depends on the size of the people using it! The standard enclosures
are often about 1.85m tall, and these I find too short! (I am about
6'3").


ISTR I found 600mmm square somewhere, but I could be wrong



http://www.bathroomtrade.co.uk/squar...ay-white.html?


Now that is getting silly. I would not know whether to get in that, or
put it on!

I would have to stand diagonally...


--
Cheers,

John.

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Mike Barnes January 6th 12 11:53 PM

How much space does a shower need?
 
John Rumm :
On 06/01/2012 19:46, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
John Rumm wrote:


The smallest normal trays are about 750 square. Personally I find
these too cramped, 850mm ones are just about usable. However much
depends on the size of the people using it! The standard enclosures
are often about 1.85m tall, and these I find too short! (I am about
6'3").


ISTR I found 600mmm square somewhere, but I could be wrong



http://www.bathroomtrade.co.uk/squar...ay-white.html?


Now that is getting silly. I would not know whether to get in that, or
put it on!

I would have to stand diagonally...


Take another look. It's designed for people with an optional leg.

--
Mike Barnes

robgraham January 7th 12 12:44 AM

How much space does a shower need?
 
On Jan 6, 12:23*pm, "David WE Roberts" wrote:
wrote in ...
It's a rather basic question but I can't find straightforward answers
anywhere.


We're [re]designing an area in our house and want to install a new
shower (among other things). *In order to plan the layout we need to
know how much space a shower needs. *It might be a dedicated shower
room or, if it fits, we might squeeze it into the existing downstairs
loo.


So any advice, pointers, etc. as to minimum and/or sensible sizes for
a shower would be very welcome.


Our current shower tray is 750mm * 750mm.
Elbow room is a little less as the shower screen is inboard of the edge.
I wouldn't like to go any smaller than that unless the whole family is built
on budget lines.
I am 6 foot tall and can manage in this, but I haven't tried to bend over in
the shower (not that I could anyway).
AFAIK this is a standard small shower cubicle.
If you want to go for a full wet room then you have more flexibility as long
as you can cover up the loo (And especially the toilet paper) when you are
showering.
For a small shower there are benefits in having the shower head over the
middle of the area pointing down instead of taking up wall space.

Cheers

Dave R
--
No plan survives contact with the enemy.
[Not even bunny]

Helmuth von Moltke the Elder

(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")


Wet room - ours is 1500 x 1600 - could lose a little I suppose but
there's never any problems with bending over, lifting a leg, or
anything else which is a double entendre !

If you do go this way, I laid the base concrete such that the shower
area of 800mm square was about 50mm below floor level and I used 150mm
quarry tiles to tile the whole thing making sure that the whole floor
drained into the shower basin.

Friends took the idea but the stupid builder didn't lay the floor
properly and the room has to be swept each time one has a shower.

Rob

[email protected] January 7th 12 12:20 PM

How much space does a shower need?
 
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
John Rumm wrote:
On 06/01/2012 10:46, wrote:

It's a rather basic question but I can't find straightforward answers
anywhere.

We're [re]designing an area in our house and want to install a new
shower (among other things). In order to plan the layout we need to
know how much space a shower needs. It might be a dedicated shower
room or, if it fits, we might squeeze it into the existing downstairs
loo.

So any advice, pointers, etc. as to minimum and/or sensible sizes for
a shower would be very welcome.


The smallest normal trays are about 750 square. Personally I find these
too cramped, 850mm ones are just about usable. However much depends on
the size of the people using it! The standard enclosures are often about
1.85m tall, and these I find too short! (I am about 6'3").

That is a point I must take into account, our son (for whom the shower
is being installed) is 6'6".

He's quite used to managing in places designed for 'normal' sized
people though, it comes with the territory.

--
Chris Green

John Rumm January 7th 12 04:25 PM

How much space does a shower need?
 
On 07/01/2012 11:20, wrote:
The Natural wrote:
John Rumm wrote:
On 06/01/2012 10:46,
wrote:

It's a rather basic question but I can't find straightforward answers
anywhere.

We're [re]designing an area in our house and want to install a new
shower (among other things). In order to plan the layout we need to
know how much space a shower needs. It might be a dedicated shower
room or, if it fits, we might squeeze it into the existing downstairs
loo.

So any advice, pointers, etc. as to minimum and/or sensible sizes for
a shower would be very welcome.

The smallest normal trays are about 750 square. Personally I find these
too cramped, 850mm ones are just about usable. However much depends on
the size of the people using it! The standard enclosures are often about
1.85m tall, and these I find too short! (I am about 6'3").

That is a point I must take into account, our son (for whom the shower
is being installed) is 6'6".

He's quite used to managing in places designed for 'normal' sized
people though, it comes with the territory.


As long as you have the room height, then the shower mount itself can
allow the head to reach higher than the top of the enclosure. However if
you extend this too far, then you get the problem of the spray escaping
more into the room.

The last one I did, I managed to find an enclosure that was 1.95m tall.
Add that to the 100mm of upstand on the tray, and it was about enough
for me... although he obviously has another three inches of height to
deal with.

(skipping the pre-made enclosure and using three walls and a screen may
also solve the problem!)


--
Cheers,

John.

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Tim Lamb[_2_] January 7th 12 10:01 PM

How much space does a shower need?
 
In message , John
Rumm writes
On 07/01/2012 11:20, wrote:
The Natural wrote:
John Rumm wrote:
On 06/01/2012 10:46,
wrote:

It's a rather basic question but I can't find straightforward answers
anywhere.

We're [re]designing an area in our house and want to install a new
shower (among other things). In order to plan the layout we need to
know how much space a shower needs. It might be a dedicated shower
room or, if it fits, we might squeeze it into the existing downstairs
loo.

So any advice, pointers, etc. as to minimum and/or sensible sizes for
a shower would be very welcome.

The smallest normal trays are about 750 square. Personally I find these
too cramped, 850mm ones are just about usable. However much depends on
the size of the people using it! The standard enclosures are often about
1.85m tall, and these I find too short! (I am about 6'3").

That is a point I must take into account, our son (for whom the shower
is being installed) is 6'6".

He's quite used to managing in places designed for 'normal' sized
people though, it comes with the territory.


As long as you have the room height, then the shower mount itself can
allow the head to reach higher than the top of the enclosure. However
if you extend this too far, then you get the problem of the spray
escaping more into the room.

The last one I did, I managed to find an enclosure that was 1.95m tall.
Add that to the 100mm of upstand on the tray, and it was about enough
for me... although he obviously has another three inches of height to
deal with.

(skipping the pre-made enclosure and using three walls and a screen may
also solve the problem!)


Just measured mine.... H 1900 W700 L1150 with a 650 pivot door. These
are tile to tile measurements with the actual tray slightly smaller.
Suits a largish farmer very well: no trouble washing between my toes:-)

Nice to have the rack for shampoo, soap etc. outside the reach of the
spray head.

regards

--
Tim Lamb

Newshound January 7th 12 11:07 PM

How much space does a shower need?
 
On 06/01/2012 17:49, fred wrote:
In article , writes
It's a rather basic question but I can't find straightforward answers
anywhere.

We're [re]designing an area in our house and want to install a new
shower (among other things). In order to plan the layout we need to
know how much space a shower needs. It might be a dedicated shower
room or, if it fits, we might squeeze it into the existing downstairs
loo.

So any advice, pointers, etc. as to minimum and/or sensible sizes for
a shower would be very welcome.

I'm doing similar and am planning for 1000x800 which is towards the
opulent end without being ridiculously expensive due to rarity. I like a
rectangular shape and the shower will be mounted on a narrow side,
spraying along the length. At the other end of the scale, 750 square
would be (is) annoyingly small for me. I'll use a stock base for
simplicity rather than rolling my own with tiles and tanking.

If you're interested, I'll be using a standard bar shower mixer for easy
replacement when it fails[1}.

[1] that's when, not if, or in case ;-)


My 700 x 1150 (internal dimensions) is a nice size. Room for two, if you
can find someone similarly inclined....


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