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Wall kettles - any experiences - is the Redring one any good?
We're considering getting a "fixed on the wall" water heater for
instant hot water to use for making coffee and such. A quick search turns up this:- http://www.discount-electrical.co.uk...res-2-2kw-240v which would appear to fulfil our fairly basic requirements and is a whole lot cheaper than anything else I can find, all the other more 'commercial' devices seem to be well over £200. We sort of want to try the idea out before spending *lots* of money so this might be a way to do it. Does anyone have any experience/knowledge of this device? -- Chris Green |
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Owain wrote:
On Jan 2, 11:20Â*am, wrote: We're considering getting a "fixed on the wall" water heater for instant hot water to use for making coffee and such. A quick search turns up this:- Â* Â*http://www.discount-electrical.co.uk...72/redring-cor... which would appear to fulfil our fairly basic requirements and is a whole lot cheaper than anything else I can find, all the other more 'commercial' devices seem to be well over £200. We sort of want to try the idea out before spending *lots* of money so this might be a way to do it. Does anyone have any experience/knowledge of this device? Yes. (a) they're not instant. It boils when you push the button and then turns off. How long it takes depends on how warm the water is. I just realised this after posting the link. That Redring device isn't one that maintains the water at boiling point like the more expensive ones. (b) water can go through repeated boil-keep warm - boil cycles. This means it isn't fresh Do you find this actually makes tea (in particular) not taste so good? (c) when you fill it you have to attach the hose to the cold tap and watch the level in the wall kettle. Inattention results in water pouring out the top of the wall kettle and going everywhere. (d) someone will assume the water coming out of the spout is at hand- washing temperature when in fact it's near boiling (e) someone always takes the last of the hot water and doesn't refill it Thanks for the comments. -- Chris Green |
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On Jan 2, 11:20*am, wrote:
We're considering getting a "fixed on the wall" water heater for instant hot water to use for making coffee and such. A quick search turns up this:- * *http://www.discount-electrical.co.uk...72/redring-cor... which would appear to fulfil our fairly basic requirements and is a whole lot cheaper than anything else I can find, all the other more 'commercial' devices seem to be well over £200. We sort of want to try the idea out before spending *lots* of money so this might be a way to do it. Does anyone have any experience/knowledge of this device? -- Chris Green The Creda Corvette and it's derivatives have been on the go for forty years to my knowledge. It's big advantage is that no plumbing is required. Safer where children are about, they can't pull it onto their heads. Leaves more space on the worksurface, Make sure the hose is long enough and will fit onto your tap. |
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So why don't they simply modify a power shower device to make hot water
available straight away rather than have a receptacle like a normal kettle?. I can see that to boil water you might have a safety risk, but if its just water for washing stuff etc, it sould be fine I'd have thought. Brian -- Brian Gaff - Note:- In order to reduce spam, any email without 'Brian Gaff' in the display name may be lost. Blind user, so no pictures please! "Owain" wrote in message ... On Jan 2, 11:20 am, wrote: We're considering getting a "fixed on the wall" water heater for instant hot water to use for making coffee and such. A quick search turns up this:- http://www.discount-electrical.co.uk...72/redring-cor... which would appear to fulfil our fairly basic requirements and is a whole lot cheaper than anything else I can find, all the other more 'commercial' devices seem to be well over £200. We sort of want to try the idea out before spending *lots* of money so this might be a way to do it. Does anyone have any experience/knowledge of this device? Yes. (a) they're not instant. It boils when you push the button and then turns off. How long it takes depends on how warm the water is. (b) water can go through repeated boil-keep warm - boil cycles. This means it isn't fresh (c) when you fill it you have to attach the hose to the cold tap and watch the level in the wall kettle. Inattention results in water pouring out the top of the wall kettle and going everywhere. (d) someone will assume the water coming out of the spout is at hand- washing temperature when in fact it's near boiling (e) someone always takes the last of the hot water and doesn't refill it Owain |
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On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 18:06:13 +0000, Brian Gaff wrote:
So why don't they simply modify a power shower device to make hot water available straight away rather than have a receptacle like a normal kettle?. I can see that to boil water you might have a safety risk, but if its just water for washing stuff etc, it sould be fine I'd have thought. Been around for years. Under-sink heaters. As you say, not boiling but... -- Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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We're considering getting a "fixed on the wall" water heater for instant hot water to use for making coffee and such. A quick search turns up this:- http://www.discount-electrical.co.uk...res-2-2kw-240v That says the minimum amount of water you can boil is a litre, which means a big waste of money if individual users just want a cupful at a time. -- Jeremy C B Nicoll - my opinions are my own. Email sent to my from-address will be deleted. Instead, please reply to replacing "aaa" by "284". |
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On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 16:58:59 +0000, Andy Champ
wrote: Used these kind of devices in student digs and several company kitchens since. They're always crap. Doesn't matter whether they're super cheap or horribly expensive, they always go wrong! At which point they leave screwholes and plumbing/cable entry points in the wrong place for the replacement ... :-(( Now we just buy a new kettle every few months when the old one dies. (Highest power we can, to cut down waits). And yes, I do mean every few months, it was meant for domestic use not for 20 people! DerekG |
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On 2 Jan 2012 18:20:49 GMT, Bob Eager wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 18:06:13 +0000, Brian Gaff wrote: So why don't they simply modify a power shower device to make hot water available straight away rather than have a receptacle like a normal kettle?. I can see that to boil water you might have a safety risk, but if its just water for washing stuff etc, it sould be fine I'd have thought. Been around for years. Under-sink heaters. As you say, not boiling but... what power are they? back off a fag packet calculation would indicate that it would take 40sec (37.something) to get one litre of water near boiling e.g 95C for 5C supply even using a 10kW heater unless I've missed something. Flow rate something like 26cm3/sec -- (º€¢.¸(¨*€¢.¸ ¸.€¢*¨)¸.€¢Âº) .€¢Â°€¢. Nik .€¢Â°€¢. (¸.€¢Âº(¸.€¢Â¨* *¨€¢.¸)º€¢.¸) |
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"Ghostrecon" wrote in message ... what power are they? back off a fag packet calculation would indicate that it would take 40sec (37.something) to get one litre of water near boiling e.g 95C for 5C supply even using a 10kW heater unless I've missed something. Flow rate something like 26cm3/sec The under sink heater sitting on the shelf in my shed, doing nothing, stores water (about 15l IIRC) and uses a 3kW heater. I don't think you can set it any hotter than about 90C. |
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On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 20:35:13 -0000, dennis@home wrote:
"Ghostrecon" wrote in message ... what power are they? back off a fag packet calculation would indicate that it would take 40sec (37.something) to get one litre of water near boiling e.g 95C for 5C supply even using a 10kW heater unless I've missed something. Flow rate something like 26cm3/sec The under sink heater sitting on the shelf in my shed, doing nothing, stores water (about 15l IIRC) and uses a 3kW heater. I don't think you can set it any hotter than about 90C. I was following Brians train of thought with the modified power shower and hot water on demand with no storage ....... -- (º€¢.¸(¨*€¢.¸ ¸.€¢*¨)¸.€¢Âº) .€¢Â°€¢. Nik .€¢Â°€¢. (¸.€¢Âº(¸.€¢Â¨* *¨€¢.¸)º€¢.¸) |
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dennis@home wrote:
The under sink heater sitting on the shelf in my shed, doing nothing, stores water (about 15l IIRC) and uses a 3kW heater. I don't think you can set it any hotter than about 90C. Cafe espresso machines also do hot water. Ours can be set from 92 to 97C, and runs off a 13A wall socket (and water feed). However it has a reservoir of almost-boiled water which it keeps hot (don't know the volume, but only a few litres) and brings it back up to temperature after you've just drawn water. I suspect it also tops up the heating on the water output too (same machine can do steam out of another nozzle). It makes perfectly good tea. But it's not exactly a cheap way to go... Theo |
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On Jan 2, 3:12*pm, wrote:
Owain wrote: On Jan 2, 11:20*am, wrote: We're considering getting a "fixed on the wall" water heater for instant hot water to use for making coffee and such. A quick search turns up this:- * *http://www.discount-electrical.co.uk...72/redring-cor... which would appear to fulfil our fairly basic requirements and is a whole lot cheaper than anything else I can find, all the other more 'commercial' devices seem to be well over £200. We sort of want to try the idea out before spending *lots* of money so this might be a way to do it. Does anyone have any experience/knowledge of this device? Yes. (a) they're not instant. It boils when you push the button and then turns off. How long it takes depends on how warm the water is. I just realised this after posting the link. *That Redring device isn't one that maintains the water at boiling point like the more expensive ones. (b) water can go through repeated boil-keep warm - boil cycles. This means it isn't fresh Do you find this actually makes tea (in particular) not taste so good? You should never boil the water in tea-making unless you are making chai. If the water isn't safe to drink from the tap, buy bottled water for tea-making. Coffee isn't so fussy, you can boil the arse out of the kettle and bad coffee still tastes bad, just don't steep it so hot. Tea relies on oxygen content in the water to get the nicest extraction. (c) when you fill it you have to attach the hose to the cold tap and watch the level in the wall kettle. Inattention results in water pouring out the top of the wall kettle and going everywhere. (d) someone will assume the water coming out of the spout is at hand- washing temperature when in fact it's near boiling (e) someone always takes the last of the hot water and doesn't refill it Thanks for the comments. -- Chris Green |
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"Andy Champ" wrote in message . uk... Now we just buy a new kettle every few months when the old one dies. (Highest power we can, to cut down waits). And yes, I do mean every few months, it was meant for domestic use not for 20 people! Sounds like you need two kettles. |
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On 03/01/2012 09:47, Doctor Drivel wrote:
"Andy Champ" wrote in message . uk... Now we just buy a new kettle every few months when the old one dies. (Highest power we can, to cut down waits). And yes, I do mean every few months, it was meant for domestic use not for 20 people! Sounds like you need two kettles. One kettle does the job. But because it's being boiled several times an hour rather than several times a day it doesn't last as long as it would in an ordinary home. Andy |
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On Jan 2, 4:58*pm, Andy Champ wrote:
On 02/01/2012 11:20, wrote: We're considering getting a "fixed on the wall" water heater for instant hot water to use for making coffee and such. A quick search turns up this:- * * *http://www.discount-electrical.co.uk...72/redring-cor... which would appear to fulfil our fairly basic requirements and is a whole lot cheaper than anything else I can find, all the other more 'commercial' devices seem to be well over £200. We sort of want to try the idea out before spending *lots* of money so this might be a way to do it. Does anyone have any experience/knowledge of this device? Used these kind of devices in student digs and several company kitchens since. *They're always crap. *Doesn't matter whether they're super cheap or horribly expensive, they always go wrong! We have zip heaters at work and they are fine apart from needing the occasional descale. MBQ |
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On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 02:44:27 -0800, Man at B&Q wrote:
On Jan 2, 4:58Â*pm, Andy Champ wrote: On 02/01/2012 11:20, wrote: We're considering getting a "fixed on the wall" water heater for instant hot water to use for making coffee and such. A quick search turns up this:- Â* Â* Â*http://www.discount-electrical.co.uk....php/20679372/ redring-cor... which would appear to fulfil our fairly basic requirements and is a whole lot cheaper than anything else I can find, all the other more 'commercial' devices seem to be well over £200. We sort of want to try the idea out before spending *lots* of money so this might be a way to do it. Does anyone have any experience/knowledge of this device? Used these kind of devices in student digs and several company kitchens since. Â*They're always crap. Â*Doesn't matter whether they're super cheap or horribly expensive, they always go wrong! We have zip heaters at work and they are fine apart from needing the occasional descale. So do we. OK if you don't want properly brewed tea. -- Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 18:06:13 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
wrote: So why don't they simply modify a power shower device to make hot water available straight away rather than have a receptacle like a normal kettle?. I can see that to boil water you might have a safety risk, but if its just water for washing stuff etc, it sould be fine I'd have thought. I have several old - but perfectly serviceable - electric showers; I intend to use one of them in that role for my workshop sink for handwashing, etc. |
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