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Is tanalised timber green?
Hi Gang
I will be ordering some timber from my local timber yard to make a garden bench. Thinking 2x4 nominal PAR tanalised timber. Now the treated timber (sawn) at the depots is a horrible green. But is that tanalised or just weather treated? I want to stain and varnish this bench so don't want the green stuff! Cheers EC |
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Eric Cartman wrote:
Hi Gang I will be ordering some timber from my local timber yard to make a garden bench. Thinking 2x4 nominal PAR tanalised timber. Now the treated timber (sawn) at the depots is a horrible green. But is that tanalised or just weather treated? I want to stain and varnish this bench so don't want the green stuff! Some is, some is more brownish I think. In time it all goes grey anyway. Cheers EC |
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The Natural Philosopher wrote in message ...
Some is, some is more brownish I think. In time it all goes grey anyway. Question is then, can I stain on top of these colourings? EC |
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Dave Plowman wrote in message ...
In article , Eric Cartman wrote: Question is then, can I stain on top of these colourings? EC Sawn tanalised can be over painted with the usual fence type colour/preservative. But PAR isn't suitable for this sort of paint. FWIW, I've never seen green PAR. I have had to order it PAR, the timber yard have to place an order for the PAR as they only stock sawn. Have confirmed it will come in Green so will have to try some dark stains on it! At least if I make the bench and it falls to bits after the first season it was me that did it and not BandQ can't blame anyone then. Cheers EC |
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Eric Cartman wrote: I have had to order it PAR, the timber yard have to place an order for the PAR as they only stock sawn. Have confirmed it will come in Green so will have to try some dark stains on it! I'd have thought if it has to be ordered, you could have asked for clear pressure treated stuff. I *think* tanalised is green purely for easy identification, and checking how far the treatment has penetrated. -- *Prepositions are not words to end sentences with * Dave Plowman London SW 12 RIP Acorn |
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Steve Firth wrote: There'll be a mad woman in any minute now to rant on and on about it. FWIW when cutting any preserved timber or indeed any timber, wear a dust mask. Absolutely. And I've modified mine for my fag. -- *Husbands should come with instructions Dave Plowman London SW 12 RIP Acorn |
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In message , Huge
writes Dave Plowman writes: In article , Eric Cartman wrote: Question is then, can I stain on top of these colourings? EC Sawn tanalised can be over painted with the usual fence type colour/preservative. But PAR isn't suitable for this sort of paint. FWIW, I've never seen green PAR. PAR? In my world, PAR stands for Polished All Round and refers to glass... Or ... Planed All Round (which is why it's never straight) and refers to wood -- geoff |
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Dave Plowman wrote:
In article , Eric Cartman wrote: I have had to order it PAR, the timber yard have to place an order for the PAR as they only stock sawn. Have confirmed it will come in Green so will have to try some dark stains on it! I'd have thought if it has to be ordered, you could have asked for clear pressure treated stuff. I *think* tanalised is green purely for easy identification, and checking how far the treatment has penetrated. The only time I bought tanalised timber it was a *light* brown colour - about as dark as pine goes after being exposed to sunlight for a couple of years. I painted it with white microporous paint and it covered with one coat. Maybe someone can confirm this but I thought that Tanalising was a specific process, maybe even a trademark, and therefore not all pressure treated timber is *tanalised*, it could just be Cuprinol green wood preservative or similar applied in a pressure vessel. Oh, and when Tommy Walsh uses tanalised timer on Ground Force it never looks green. |
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The Brown/Green often depends upon what it is treated with.
Brown is better for soil contact (always damp), green is best for dry areas. The dampness of the wood effect what will attack it. You can find in depth anaylsis of the different treatments if you search google. Rick On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 09:09:41 +0100, Andy Hall wrote: On 14 Jul 2003 23:37:55 -0700, (Eric Cartman) wrote: The Natural Philosopher wrote in message ... Some is, some is more brownish I think. In time it all goes grey anyway. Question is then, can I stain on top of these colourings? EC It might be worth looking a bit further. I found that most of the DIY stores had timber that was simply dipped in green preservative (not pressure treated) - but they didn't claim it either - I forget what the weasel words were. Timber yards had pressure treated, but again in green. Eventually I found a choice of green and brown pressure treated timber at a fencing company with their own saw mill who are also manufacturing fencing rather than just stocking. They have their own pressure treating plant and were doing both colours - the brown being a little more than the green. You can stain on top of green as long as the brown is a fairly dark one. Paler colours will tend to look rather muddy. ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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Genuinely tanalised timber is always green. Some other treatments can
be brown; both solvent based and stink a bit. What you need is protimised timber; this doesn't have a colour and will take any finish. Just had my 14x5 purlins done like this. |
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Eric Cartman wrote: So its not sutiable where it comes in contact with surface water, i.e. after a downpour the top of the table will be under water. Don't think this is the meaning of surface water. I'd guess they mean immersed in water on the ground for some time - not merely wet. -- *Why is the man who invests all your money called a broker? * Dave Plowman London SW 12 RIP Acorn |
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Dave Plowman wrote in message ...
In article , Eric Cartman wrote: So its not sutiable where it comes in contact with surface water, i.e. after a downpour the top of the table will be under water. Don't think this is the meaning of surface water. I'd guess they mean immersed in water on the ground for some time - not merely wet. Hmm possibly. Too late anyway as my tanalised timber is turning up next week! |
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