Astracast sink waste broken. Need new sink
 

Yesterday I posted a question, asking if anyone knew of a source for the
waste fitting for an Astracast sink.

Today, after phoning every single plumbers merchants for 30 miles,
including Astracast suppliers, it seems I may as well have been asking
for a return ticket to the moon. You can't get them. They're not sold
separately, and the one that Astracast *do* sell won't fit a sink older
than 3 years.

So, for the want of a waste, the sink was lost. You can bet I'm not
buying an Astracast again. Bog standard stainless steel for me - whatever
the Mrs says.

Unfortunately I inherited the sink, although even if I had bought it, I
would never have imagined it needing scrapping because the waste can't be
supplied.

On a wider note, have you ever refused to buy anything, when the shop
can't supply consumables ? I recall going to buy a MIG welder a few years
ago, before they were hobbyist. We'd borrowed one, and had problems
getting the brass feed nozzle. We were in the shop, selected a welder,
went to the counter, and asked for 20 nozzles, which the sales assistant
said "they didn't sell". So we left the welder at the counter, and walked
out.

Astracast sink waste broken. Need new sink
 

"Jethro" wrote in message
...
Yesterday I posted a question, asking if anyone knew of a source for the
waste fitting for an Astracast sink.

Today, after phoning every single plumbers merchants for 30 miles,
including Astracast suppliers, it seems I may as well have been asking
for a return ticket to the moon. You can't get them. They're not sold
separately, and the one that Astracast *do* sell won't fit a sink older
than 3 years.

So, for the want of a waste, the sink was lost. You can bet I'm not
buying an Astracast again. Bog standard stainless steel for me - whatever
the Mrs says.

Unfortunately I inherited the sink, although even if I had bought it, I
would never have imagined it needing scrapping because the waste can't be
supplied.

On a wider note, have you ever refused to buy anything, when the shop
can't supply consumables ? I recall going to buy a MIG welder a few years
ago, before they were hobbyist. We'd borrowed one, and had problems
getting the brass feed nozzle. We were in the shop, selected a welder,
went to the counter, and asked for 20 nozzles, which the sales assistant
said "they didn't sell". So we left the welder at the counter, and walked
out.

Is it not possible to botch it up?
It's only a waste fitting.

Astracast sink waste broken. Need new sink
 

Jethro wrote:

Yesterday I posted a question, asking if anyone knew of a source for the
waste fitting for an Astracast sink.

Today, after phoning every single plumbers merchants for 30 miles,
including Astracast suppliers, it seems I may as well have been asking
for a return ticket to the moon. You can't get them. They're not sold
separately, and the one that Astracast *do* sell won't fit a sink older
than 3 years.

Maybe if you posted a picture of the damaged part, someone would know
where to get the spares?
I've got 2 large storage boxes full of sink spares here, I'm sure others
in the trade have too.
Alan.

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Astracast sink waste broken. Need new sink
 

On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 18:37:17 +0100, A.Lee wrote:

Jethro wrote:

Yesterday I posted a question, asking if anyone knew of a source for
the waste fitting for an Astracast sink.

Today, after phoning every single plumbers merchants for 30 miles,
including Astracast suppliers, it seems I may as well have been asking
for a return ticket to the moon. You can't get them. They're not sold
separately, and the one that Astracast *do* sell won't fit a sink older
than 3 years.

Maybe if you posted a picture of the damaged part, someone would know
where to get the spares?
I've got 2 large storage boxes full of sink spares here, I'm sure others
in the trade have too.
Alan.

It's back in place for now, but here's the identical piece someone else
had problems with http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b1/pbar/IMG_0339.jpg

in my case, it's the actual upper circular part which is cracked. Which
means the plug doesn't seal. It's not leaking to the outside (small
mercies) but leaking into the waste.

Astracast sink waste broken. Need new sink
 

On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 18:24:28 +0100, Mr Pounder wrote:

"Jethro" wrote in message
...
Yesterday I posted a question, asking if anyone knew of a source for
the waste fitting for an Astracast sink.

Today, after phoning every single plumbers merchants for 30 miles,
including Astracast suppliers, it seems I may as well have been asking
for a return ticket to the moon. You can't get them. They're not sold
separately, and the one that Astracast *do* sell won't fit a sink older
than 3 years.

So, for the want of a waste, the sink was lost. You can bet I'm not
buying an Astracast again. Bog standard stainless steel for me -
whatever the Mrs says.

Unfortunately I inherited the sink, although even if I had bought it, I
would never have imagined it needing scrapping because the waste can't
be supplied.

On a wider note, have you ever refused to buy anything, when the shop
can't supply consumables ? I recall going to buy a MIG welder a few
years ago, before they were hobbyist. We'd borrowed one, and had
problems getting the brass feed nozzle. We were in the shop, selected a
welder, went to the counter, and asked for 20 nozzles, which the sales
assistant said "they didn't sell". So we left the welder at the
counter, and walked out.

Is it not possible to botch it up?
It's only a waste fitting.

It *is* botched, in as much as it carries water away without leaking.
Unfortunately it doesn't seal ....

Astracast sink waste broken. Need new sink
 

Jethro wrote:

Maybe if you posted a picture of the damaged part, someone would know
where to get the spares?
I've got 2 large storage boxes full of sink spares here, I'm sure others
in the trade have too.
Alan.

It's back in place for now, but here's the identical piece someone else
had problems with http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b1/pbar/IMG_0339.jpg

That looks like a bog standard single sink strainer/outlet.
What difference is it to a standard part?
Any chance of a pic underneath?


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On Aug 27, 5:34*pm, Jethro wrote:
Yesterday I posted a question, asking if anyone knew of a source for the
waste fitting for an Astracast sink.

Today, after phoning every single plumbers merchants for 30 miles,
including Astracast suppliers, it seems I may as well have been asking
for a return ticket to the moon. You can't get them. They're not sold
separately, and the one that Astracast *do* sell won't fit a sink older
than 3 years.

So, for the want of a waste, the sink was lost. You can bet I'm not
buying an Astracast again. Bog standard stainless steel for me - whatever
the Mrs says.

Unfortunately I inherited the sink, although even if I had bought it, I
would never have imagined it needing scrapping because the waste can't be
supplied.

On a wider note, have you ever refused to buy anything, when the shop
can't supply consumables ? I recall going to buy a MIG welder a few years
ago, before they were hobbyist. We'd borrowed one, and had problems
getting the brass feed nozzle. We were in the shop, selected a welder,
went to the counter, and asked for 20 nozzles, which the sales assistant
said "they didn't sell". So we left the welder at the counter, and walked
out.

I've had no truoble getiting replacement waste sets, as said. They use
standard hole sizes and take standard waste sets. Methinks youre
talking googlies.


NT

Astracast sink waste broken. Need new sink
 

On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 19:12:45 +0100, A.Lee wrote:

Jethro wrote:

Maybe if you posted a picture of the damaged part, someone would know
where to get the spares?
I've got 2 large storage boxes full of sink spares here, I'm sure
others in the trade have too.
Alan.

It's back in place for now, but here's the identical piece someone else
had problems with
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b1/pbar/IMG_0339.jpg

That looks like a bog standard single sink strainer/outlet. What
difference is it to a standard part? Any chance of a pic underneath?

It most certainly is not a standard sink outlet. I have tried fitting the
standard (stainless steel) one, and ignoring the fact it comes with an
overflow (which this does not have), the profile of the composite sink
just doesn't fit the standard top piece.

Here's a series of photos I've taken ... apologies for plumbers mait.


http://s1123.photobucket.com/albums/l558/Jethro_uk/

As far as I can see, the top piece *has* to have that profile. Anything
else, and it won't seat into the sinkhole.

Astracast sink waste broken. Need new sink
 

On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 11:33:51 -0700, NT wrote:

On Aug 27, 5:34Â*pm, Jethro wrote:
Yesterday I posted a question, asking if anyone knew of a source for
the waste fitting for an Astracast sink.

Today, after phoning every single plumbers merchants for 30 miles,
including Astracast suppliers, it seems I may as well have been asking
for a return ticket to the moon. You can't get them. They're not sold
separately, and the one that Astracast *do* sell won't fit a sink older
than 3 years.

So, for the want of a waste, the sink was lost. You can bet I'm not
buying an Astracast again. Bog standard stainless steel for me -
whatever the Mrs says.

Unfortunately I inherited the sink, although even if I had bought it, I
would never have imagined it needing scrapping because the waste can't
be supplied.

On a wider note, have you ever refused to buy anything, when the shop
can't supply consumables ? I recall going to buy a MIG welder a few
years ago, before they were hobbyist. We'd borrowed one, and had
problems getting the brass feed nozzle. We were in the shop, selected a
welder, went to the counter, and asked for 20 nozzles, which the sales
assistant said "they didn't sell". So we left the welder at the
counter, and walked out.

I've had no truoble getiting replacement waste sets, as said. They use
standard hole sizes and take standard waste sets. Methinks youre talking
googlies.


I have tried fitting a "standard" waste. It doesn't fit the hole in the
sink, which has a custom profile.

Astracast sink waste broken. Need new sink
 

Jethro wrote:

On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 19:12:45 +0100, A.Lee wrote:

Jethro wrote:

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b1/pbar/IMG_0339.jpg

That looks like a bog standard single sink strainer/outlet. What
difference is it to a standard part? Any chance of a pic underneath?

It most certainly is not a standard sink outlet. I have tried fitting the
standard (stainless steel) one, and ignoring the fact it comes with an
overflow (which this does not have), the profile of the composite sink
just doesn't fit the standard top piece.

http://s1123.photobucket.com/albums/l558/Jethro_uk/

As far as I can see, the top piece *has* to have that profile. Anything
else, and it won't seat into the sinkhole.

I've got 2 here. The bigger one has a body diameter of around 63mm, the
smaller around 53mm.
They both have overflows, as do nearly all new ones, but the plugs are
there to block them if not required.

http://www.maydavid.co.uk/images/wastes.jpg
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Jethro wrote:
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 19:12:45 +0100, A.Lee wrote:

Jethro wrote:

Maybe if you posted a picture of the damaged part, someone would know
where to get the spares?
I've got 2 large storage boxes full of sink spares here, I'm sure
others in the trade have too.
Alan.
It's back in place for now, but here's the identical piece someone else
had problems with
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b1/pbar/IMG_0339.jpg
That looks like a bog standard single sink strainer/outlet. What
difference is it to a standard part? Any chance of a pic underneath?

It most certainly is not a standard sink outlet. I have tried fitting the
standard (stainless steel) one, and ignoring the fact it comes with an
overflow (which this does not have), the profile of the composite sink
just doesn't fit the standard top piece.

Here's a series of photos I've taken ... apologies for plumbers mait.


http://s1123.photobucket.com/albums/l558/Jethro_uk/

As far as I can see, the top piece *has* to have that profile. Anything
else, and it won't seat into the sinkhole.

use a cheap tin one, bend it roughly to shape and bed on silicone rubber


If it is a composite sink, do whatever is necessary on the back with car
body filler.

Astracast sink waste broken. Need new sink
 

On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 20:54:37 +0100, A.Lee wrote:

Jethro wrote:

On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 19:12:45 +0100, A.Lee wrote:

Jethro wrote:

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b1/pbar/IMG_0339.jpg

That looks like a bog standard single sink strainer/outlet. What
difference is it to a standard part? Any chance of a pic underneath?

It most certainly is not a standard sink outlet. I have tried fitting
the standard (stainless steel) one, and ignoring the fact it comes with
an overflow (which this does not have), the profile of the composite
sink just doesn't fit the standard top piece.

http://s1123.photobucket.com/albums/l558/Jethro_uk/

As far as I can see, the top piece *has* to have that profile. Anything
else, and it won't seat into the sinkhole.

I've got 2 here. The bigger one has a body diameter of around 63mm, the
smaller around 53mm.
They both have overflows, as do nearly all new ones, but the plugs are
there to block them if not required.

http://www.maydavid.co.uk/images/wastes.jpg

Now we're getting somewhere - assuming the metal part will fit into the
sink profile.

Where did you get those, please ?

Astracast sink waste broken. Need new sink
 

On Aug 27, 8:44*pm, Jethro wrote:
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 11:33:51 -0700, NT wrote:
On Aug 27, 5:34*pm, Jethro wrote:
Yesterday I posted a question, asking if anyone knew of a source for
the waste fitting for an Astracast sink.

Today, after phoning every single plumbers merchants for 30 miles,
including Astracast suppliers, it seems I may as well have been asking
for a return ticket to the moon. You can't get them. They're not sold
separately, and the one that Astracast *do* sell won't fit a sink older
than 3 years.

So, for the want of a waste, the sink was lost. You can bet I'm not
buying an Astracast again. Bog standard stainless steel for me -
whatever the Mrs says.

Unfortunately I inherited the sink, although even if I had bought it, I
would never have imagined it needing scrapping because the waste can't
be supplied.

On a wider note, have you ever refused to buy anything, when the shop
can't supply consumables ? I recall going to buy a MIG welder a few
years ago, before they were hobbyist. We'd borrowed one, and had
problems getting the brass feed nozzle. We were in the shop, selected a
welder, went to the counter, and asked for 20 nozzles, which the sales
assistant said "they didn't sell". So we left the welder at the
counter, and walked out.

I've had no truoble getiting replacement waste sets, as said. They use
standard hole sizes and take standard waste sets. Methinks youre talking
googlies.

I have tried fitting a "standard" waste. It doesn't fit the hole in the
sink, which has a custom profile.

Want to show us a pic? Modifying holes is usuually doable


NT

Astracast sink waste broken. Need new sink
 

Jethro wrote:

On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 20:54:37 +0100, A.Lee wrote:

I've got 2 here. The bigger one has a body diameter of around 63mm, the
smaller around 53mm.
They both have overflows, as do nearly all new ones, but the plugs are
there to block them if not required.

http://www.maydavid.co.uk/images/wastes.jpg

Now we're getting somewhere - assuming the metal part will fit into the
sink profile.

Where did you get those, please ?

Plumbers Merchants, builders supplies, kitchen suppliers, or search
online.
You need to know the diameter of the top flange, and the main body.
Anything else is superfluous. It doesnt matter if it has an overflow,
they can be blocked off.
And yes, it is a std. fitting, just not a very common one. You've not
said what size it is.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kitchen-Si...er-Waste-Brush
ed-Chrome-/330603245361?pt=UK_Home_Garden_Kitchen_KitchenFurn iture_EH&ha
sh=item4cf97d2f31

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KITCHEN-SI...NGE-/370537938
940?pt=UK_Home_Garden_Kitchen_KitchenFurniture_EH& hash=item5645c83ffc

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KITCHEN-SI...NGE-CHROME-/37
0537945921?pt=UK_Home_Garden_Kitchen_KitchenFurnit ure_EH&hash=item5645c8
5b41
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On Aug 27, 8:38*pm, Jethro wrote:
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 19:12:45 +0100, A.Lee wrote:
Jethro wrote:

Maybe if you posted a picture of the damaged part, someone would know
where to get the spares?
I've got 2 large storage boxes full of sink spares here, I'm sure
others in the trade have too.
Alan.

It's back in place for now, but here's the identical piece someone else
had problems with
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b1/pbar/IMG_0339.jpg

That looks like a bog standard single sink strainer/outlet. What
difference is it to a standard part? Any chance of a pic underneath?

It most certainly is not a standard sink outlet. I have tried fitting the
standard (stainless steel) one, and ignoring the fact it comes with an
overflow (which this does not have), the profile of the composite sink
just doesn't fit the standard top piece.

Here's a series of photos I've taken ... apologies for plumbers mait.

http://s1123.photobucket.com/albums/l558/Jethro_uk/

As far as I can see, the top piece *has* to have that profile. Anything
else, and it won't seat into the sinkhole.

Finally the link worked - a standard waste set will fit that. You'll
lose the knob control feature, but imho its no loss. If you fit
stainless ones instead, they wont crack up, leak and break.


NT