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My son has a tap in his garden that feeds a vertical fairly thick walled
rubbery plastic pipe to a right angle connector. From there water was
fed via buried rubbery pipe to 3 taps located at various quite long
distances around the garden.

Last Winter in the frost, the rubber pipe to connector started leaking
and produced a huge ice sculpture.

As a temporary bodge, I stuck a bar from a socket set in the end of the
tube and held it there with a clip. It looked as though the inside of
the connector was smooth and the rubbery pipe had been glued into place.
There was no sign of anything looking like an olive.

I took some measurements and visited a couple of usually good merchants
looking to buy some sort of connection arrangement, but only got talk
like "that's imperial, haven't seen anything like that for years". They
also said that any glue they sold would be useless because it would
either not work or dissolve the plastic.

I've put some pics that might be visible at

https://picasaweb.google.com/billaboard/PipeJoint

Any simple low-cost suggestions? I know I should have measured the pipe
again before writing this, but forgot. It's about an inch od.

--
Bill

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"Bill" wrote in message
...

My son has a tap in his garden that feeds a vertical fairly thick
walled
rubbery plastic pipe to a right angle connector. From there water
was
fed via buried rubbery pipe to 3 taps located at various quite long
distances around the garden.

Last Winter in the frost, the rubber pipe to connector started
leaking
and produced a huge ice sculpture.

As a temporary bodge, I stuck a bar from a socket set in the end of
the
tube and held it there with a clip. It looked as though the inside
of
the connector was smooth and the rubbery pipe had been glued into
place.
There was no sign of anything looking like an olive.

I took some measurements and visited a couple of usually good
merchants
looking to buy some sort of connection arrangement, but only got
talk
like "that's imperial, haven't seen anything like that for years".
They
also said that any glue they sold would be useless because it would
either not work or dissolve the plastic.

I've put some pics that might be visible at

https://picasaweb.google.com/billaboard/PipeJoint

Any simple low-cost suggestions? I know I should have measured the
pipe
again before writing this, but forgot. It's about an inch od.

--
Bill

OK so it looks like a 3/4" imperial compression elbow. You need a
short stub of 3/4" copper pipe sweated to a suitable pipe barb to suit
the inner diameter of the rubbery hose, and a 3/4" imperial olive. (No
size references in the photo so it may be 1/2" imperial in which case
15mm olives can be pressed in to service.)

Imperial olives are available but need searching for. Beware that the
measurement here is the pipe bore not the outside. There are 3/4"
copper olives widely available used by air conditioning outfits, but
their pipe is measured on the outside!!!!

AWEM

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"Andrew Mawson" wrote in message
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"Bill" wrote in message
...

My son has a tap in his garden that feeds a vertical fairly thick
walled
rubbery plastic pipe to a right angle connector. From there water
was
fed via buried rubbery pipe to 3 taps located at various quite
long
distances around the garden.

Last Winter in the frost, the rubber pipe to connector started
leaking
and produced a huge ice sculpture.

As a temporary bodge, I stuck a bar from a socket set in the end
of
the
tube and held it there with a clip. It looked as though the inside
of
the connector was smooth and the rubbery pipe had been glued into
place.
There was no sign of anything looking like an olive.

I took some measurements and visited a couple of usually good
merchants
looking to buy some sort of connection arrangement, but only got
talk
like "that's imperial, haven't seen anything like that for years".
They
also said that any glue they sold would be useless because it
would
either not work or dissolve the plastic.

I've put some pics that might be visible at

https://picasaweb.google.com/billaboard/PipeJoint

Any simple low-cost suggestions? I know I should have measured the
pipe
again before writing this, but forgot. It's about an inch od.

--
Bill

OK so it looks like a 3/4" imperial compression elbow. You need a
short stub of 3/4" copper pipe sweated to a suitable pipe barb to
suit
the inner diameter of the rubbery hose, and a 3/4" imperial olive.
(No
size references in the photo so it may be 1/2" imperial in which
case
15mm olives can be pressed in to service.)

Imperial olives are available but need searching for. Beware that
the
measurement here is the pipe bore not the outside. There are 3/4"
copper olives widely available used by air conditioning outfits, but
their pipe is measured on the outside!!!!

AWEM


OR: you could carefully remove the 3/4" elbow, sweat a hose barb into
the free end, and re-assemble it where it was.

AWEM

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On Wed, 6 Jul 2011 16:29:20 +0100, Bill wrote:

As a temporary bodge, I stuck a bar from a socket set in the end of the
tube and held it there with a clip. It looked as though the inside of
the connector was smooth and the rubbery pipe had been glued into place.
There was no sign of anything looking like an olive.

That pipe looks suspiciously like the black alkathene that out mains
water supply is in. And the elbow a compression elbow. When I had to
repair(*) that pipe I got some metal inserts that fitted (slighly
loose) and used a 22mm compression fitting. It hasn't leaked.

(*) Who runs a mains water pipe through a waste pipe FFS!

--
Cheers
Dave.

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On Jul 6, 4:29*pm, Bill wrote:
My son has a tap in his garden that feeds a vertical fairly thick walled
rubbery plastic pipe to a right angle connector. From there water was
fed via buried rubbery pipe to 3 taps located at various quite long
distances around the garden.

Last Winter in the frost, the rubber pipe to connector started leaking
and produced a huge ice sculpture.

As a temporary bodge, I stuck a bar from a socket set in the end of the
tube and held it there with a clip. It looked as though the inside of
the connector was smooth and the rubbery pipe had been glued into place.
There was no sign of anything looking like an olive.

I took some measurements and visited a couple of usually good merchants
looking to buy some sort of connection arrangement, but only got talk
like "that's imperial, haven't seen anything like that for years". They
also said that any glue they sold would be useless because it would
either not work or dissolve the plastic.

I've put some pics that might be visible at

https://picasaweb.google.com/billaboard/PipeJoint

Any simple low-cost suggestions? I know I should have measured the pipe
again before writing this, but forgot. It's about an inch od.

--
Bill

Try an agricultural supplier, there are plenty of farms with imperial
pipework in place.

Jonathan

Outdoor plumbing repair
 

On Wed, 06 Jul 2011 16:29:20 +0100, Bill wrote:

My son has a tap in his garden that feeds a vertical fairly thick walled
rubbery plastic pipe to a right angle connector. From there water was
fed via buried rubbery pipe to 3 taps located at various quite long
distances around the garden.

Last Winter in the frost, the rubber pipe to connector started leaking
and produced a huge ice sculpture.

As a temporary bodge, I stuck a bar from a socket set in the end of the
tube and held it there with a clip. It looked as though the inside of
the connector was smooth and the rubbery pipe had been glued into place.
There was no sign of anything looking like an olive.

I took some measurements and visited a couple of usually good merchants
looking to buy some sort of connection arrangement, but only got talk
like "that's imperial, haven't seen anything like that for years". They
also said that any glue they sold would be useless because it would
either not work or dissolve the plastic.

I've put some pics that might be visible at

https://picasaweb.google.com/billaboard/PipeJoint

Any simple low-cost suggestions? I know I should have measured the pipe
again before writing this, but forgot. It's about an inch od.

I successfully used these fittings on alkathene pipe last year;

http://www.philmac.co.uk/products/3g-metricimperial/

Graham Plumbers' Merchant stocked them;

http://www.graham-group.co.uk/homepa...equestid=83546

The pipe is sized by its internal diameter eg. 3/4"

HTH.

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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Bill saying
something like:

I've put some pics that might be visible at

https://picasaweb.google.com/billaboard/PipeJoint

Any simple low-cost suggestions?

That looks like Alkathene pipe, beloved of farmers. Hie thee doon to a
farm supplies stockist and get the necessary fittings. You'll probably
find the outside will take a 3/4" (or 22mm) olive and once it's
compressed into place the pipe won't budge (it's the 3/4" OD, 1/2" ID
pipe, I assume). You don't need an insert for the thick walled stuff.

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In message , Grimly
Curmudgeon writes
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Bill saying
something like:

I've put some pics that might be visible at

https://picasaweb.google.com/billaboard/PipeJoint

Any simple low-cost suggestions?

That looks like Alkathene pipe, beloved of farmers. Hie thee doon to a
farm supplies stockist and get the necessary fittings. You'll probably
find the outside will take a 3/4" (or 22mm) olive and once it's
compressed into place the pipe won't budge (it's the 3/4" OD, 1/2" ID
pipe, I assume). You don't need an insert for the thick walled stuff.

Thanks for all the replies. Very helpful, unlike the weather today.

I'll measure up, find suppliers - agricultural or the Grahams near us -
buy some bits and wait for a day when we are both there and the rain
stops.
--
Bill