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MarkG[_2_] May 30th 11 11:32 PM

Double glazing fitting. FENSA needed?
 
Hi, my builder has given me a price to supply and fit double glazed door
and window on a small porch he has built for me (he has been dealing with
the council with regards to building regs).

I don't believe he is FENSA registered (according to their website), and I
believe that the council will require some installation certification.
Does this mean he has to be FENSA approved to fit it? Should I get
someone that is to sort it out instead?


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Jim K[_3_] May 30th 11 11:45 PM

Double glazing fitting. FENSA needed?
 
On May 30, 11:32 pm, MarkG wrote:
Hi, my builder has given me a price to supply and fit double glazed door
and window on a small porch he has built for me (he has been dealing with
the council with regards to building regs).

I don't believe he is FENSA registered (according to their website), and I
believe that the council will require some installation certification.
Does this mean he has to be FENSA approved to fit it? Should I get
someone that is to sort it out instead?


Fensa is a self certifying alternative to Building Control (i.e. Regs)
involvement.

As yr builder is already dealing with Regs and Bldg Ctrl tghere should
be no problem...you could even do it yourself (hence UK.D-I-Y....)

;)
Jim K

Peter Johnson May 31st 11 03:31 PM

Double glazing fitting. FENSA needed?
 
On Mon, 30 May 2011 23:32:49 +0100, MarkG wrote:

Hi, my builder has given me a price to supply and fit double glazed door
and window on a small porch he has built for me (he has been dealing with
the council with regards to building regs).

I don't believe he is FENSA registered (according to their website), and I
believe that the council will require some installation certification.
Does this mean he has to be FENSA approved to fit it? Should I get
someone that is to sort it out instead?


If building control has been involved you will get a completion
certificate that covers the entire structure, including the windows.
(The building inspector has a device that checks for the use of coated
glass, ie Pilkington K.)

The Other Mike[_3_] May 31st 11 04:02 PM

Double glazing fitting. FENSA needed?
 
On Mon, 30 May 2011 23:32:49 +0100, MarkG wrote:

Hi, my builder has given me a price to supply and fit double glazed door
and window on a small porch he has built for me (he has been dealing with
the council with regards to building regs).

I don't believe he is FENSA registered (according to their website), and I
believe that the council will require some installation certification.
Does this mean he has to be FENSA approved to fit it? Should I get
someone that is to sort it out instead?


Isn't a porch more or less exempt from any requirements with regards
to building regs?

Or if you fit it with windows and a door do they have to comply with
building regs?

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/per...rojects/porch/




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Jim K[_3_] May 31st 11 04:18 PM

Double glazing fitting. FENSA needed?
 
On May 31, 3:31 pm, Peter Johnson
wrote:
On Mon, 30 May 2011 23:32:49 +0100, MarkG wrote:
Hi, my builder has given me a price to supply and fit double glazed door
and window on a small porch he has built for me (he has been dealing with
the council with regards to building regs).


I don't believe he is FENSA registered (according to their website), and I
believe that the council will require some installation certification.
Does this mean he has to be FENSA approved to fit it? Should I get
someone that is to sort it out instead?


If building control has been involved you will get a completion
certificate that covers the entire structure, including the windows.
(The building inspector has a device that checks for the use of coated
glass, ie Pilkington K.)


tho whether they choose to use them all depends ;)

Jim K

MarkG May 31st 11 07:35 PM

Double glazing fitting. FENSA needed?
 
On Tue, 31 May 2011 16:02:25 +0100, The Other Mike
wrote:

On Mon, 30 May 2011 23:32:49 +0100, MarkG wrote:

Hi, my builder has given me a price to supply and fit double glazed door
and window on a small porch he has built for me (he has been dealing
with
the council with regards to building regs).

I don't believe he is FENSA registered (according to their website),
and I
believe that the council will require some installation certification.
Does this mean he has to be FENSA approved to fit it? Should I get
someone that is to sort it out instead?


Isn't a porch more or less exempt from any requirements with regards
to building regs?

Or if you fit it with windows and a door do they have to comply with
building regs?

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/per...rojects/porch/





Sorry, should have been more specific, it's a porch with a shower/toilet,
so IS subject to building regs. Thanks for all the advice, I will
confirm with my builder that the stuff he wants to order is K Glass (are
equivalents allowed?), and meets the U-factor Rating in the plans (1.60
W/m2k).

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Jim K[_3_] May 31st 11 10:32 PM

Double glazing fitting. FENSA needed?
 
On May 31, 7:35 pm, MarkG wrote:
On Tue, 31 May 2011 16:02:25 +0100, The Other Mike



wrote:
On Mon, 30 May 2011 23:32:49 +0100, MarkG wrote:


Hi, my builder has given me a price to supply and fit double glazed door
and window on a small porch he has built for me (he has been dealing
with
the council with regards to building regs).


I don't believe he is FENSA registered (according to their website),
and I
believe that the council will require some installation certification.
Does this mean he has to be FENSA approved to fit it? Should I get
someone that is to sort it out instead?


Isn't a porch more or less exempt from any requirements with regards
to building regs?


Or if you fit it with windows and a door do they have to comply with
building regs?


http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/per...rojects/porch/


Sorry, should have been more specific, it's a porch with a shower/toilet,
so IS subject to building regs. Thanks for all the advice, I will
confirm with my builder that the stuff he wants to order is K Glass (are
equivalents allowed?), and meets the U-factor Rating in the plans (1.60
W/m2k).

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OK if he has plans to work to then even simpler:- do nothing, don't be
seen to be "interfering" and possibly open yourself to sharing blame
(and remedial costs) for any mistakes in spec.?
Also pay as little as you can until *you* have the "signed off"
Building Ctrl approved paperwork in your hands - make that clear
subtly if not already discussed or make sure you are there for the
final Building Ctrl inspection to hear the approval first hand before
paying.

Jim K

MarkG May 31st 11 10:47 PM

Double glazing fitting. FENSA needed?
 
On Tue, 31 May 2011 22:32:59 +0100, Jim K wrote:

On May 31, 7:35 pm, MarkG wrote:
On Tue, 31 May 2011 16:02:25 +0100, The Other Mike



wrote:
On Mon, 30 May 2011 23:32:49 +0100, MarkG wrote:


Hi, my builder has given me a price to supply and fit double glazed

door
and window on a small porch he has built for me (he has been dealing
with
the council with regards to building regs).


I don't believe he is FENSA registered (according to their website),
and I
believe that the council will require some installation

certification.
Does this mean he has to be FENSA approved to fit it? Should I get
someone that is to sort it out instead?


Isn't a porch more or less exempt from any requirements with regards
to building regs?


Or if you fit it with windows and a door do they have to comply with
building regs?


http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/per...rojects/porch/


Sorry, should have been more specific, it's a porch with a
shower/toilet,
so IS subject to building regs. Thanks for all the advice, I will
confirm with my builder that the stuff he wants to order is K Glass (are
equivalents allowed?), and meets the U-factor Rating in the plans (1.60
W/m2k).

--
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OK if he has plans to work to then even simpler:- do nothing, don't be
seen to be "interfering" and possibly open yourself to sharing blame
(and remedial costs) for any mistakes in spec.?
Also pay as little as you can until *you* have the "signed off"
Building Ctrl approved paperwork in your hands - make that clear
subtly if not already discussed or make sure you are there for the
final Building Ctrl inspection to hear the approval first hand before
paying.

Jim K



Unfortunately, it's not so easy, I asked the builder to only build the
shell (as I know plenty of other tradesment, and I can do some stuff
myself), so I have paid him in full for the work he has done to date. I
know he got the inspector out to inspect the footings, oversight and wall
insulation, and that the next callout is really after the roof insulation,
electrics and UPVC is in.

I was never around when they came out thou, perhaps I should get them out
just to tell me everything so far is OK. Are they OK about that sort of
thing? Or do they only like talking to builders, rather than the home
owners?



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