DIYbanter

DIYbanter (https://www.diybanter.com/)
-   UK diy (https://www.diybanter.com/uk-diy/)
-   -   Lead acid repair (https://www.diybanter.com/uk-diy/321312-lead-acid-repair.html)

Tabby April 5th 11 02:05 AM

Lead acid repair
 
I expect to be disassembling some SLAs very soon to rebuild, since I
can't get what I'm looking for commercially. Any tips on case
disassembly with SLAs? Or on minimum plate thickness for SLAs that
will see vibration in use?


NT

MuddyMike April 5th 11 08:35 AM

Lead acid repair
 

"Tabby" wrote in message
...
I expect to be disassembling some SLAs very soon to rebuild, since I
can't get what I'm looking for commercially. Any tips on case
disassembly with SLAs? Or on minimum plate thickness for SLAs that
will see vibration in use?


Why would you disassembling some Scottish Law Agents?
http://www.SLAs.co.uk/
I did try a Google search but the results didn't show anything remotely DIY.
What are you on about?

Mike



Tabby April 5th 11 08:46 AM

Lead acid repair
 
On Apr 5, 2:05*am, Tabby wrote:
I expect to be disassembling some SLAs very soon to rebuild, since I
can't get what I'm looking for commercially. Any tips on case
disassembly with SLAs? Or on minimum plate thickness for SLAs that
will see vibration in use?

NT


* sealed lead acid batteries

Manticore April 5th 11 11:42 AM

Lead acid repair
 
Tabby wrote:
I expect to be disassembling some SLAs very soon to rebuild, since I
can't get what I'm looking for commercially. Any tips on case
disassembly with SLAs? Or on minimum plate thickness for SLAs that
will see vibration in use?


Service Level Agreements?



The Natural Philosopher[_2_] April 5th 11 11:43 AM

Lead acid repair
 
MuddyMike wrote:
"Tabby" wrote in message
...
I expect to be disassembling some SLAs very soon to rebuild, since I
can't get what I'm looking for commercially. Any tips on case
disassembly with SLAs? Or on minimum plate thickness for SLAs that
will see vibration in use?


Why would you disassembling some Scottish Law Agents?
http://www.SLAs.co.uk/
I did try a Google search but the results didn't show anything remotely DIY.
What are you on about?


Don't be silly, he is talking about Service Level Agreements, and
frankly an angle grinder is the only appropriate thing to use.


Mike



Skipweasel[_4_] April 5th 11 11:46 AM

Lead acid repair
 
In article ,
says...
I expect to be disassembling some SLAs very soon to rebuild, since I
can't get what I'm looking for commercially. Any tips on case
disassembly with SLAs? Or on minimum plate thickness for SLAs that
will see vibration in use?


Service Level Agreements?


Symbionese Liberation Armies? Patty Hearst is still alive, you know.

--
Skipweasel - never knowingly understood.

Graham. April 5th 11 11:59 AM

Lead acid repair
 

"Skipweasel" wrote in message ...
In article ,
says...
I expect to be disassembling some SLAs very soon to rebuild, since I
can't get what I'm looking for commercially. Any tips on case
disassembly with SLAs? Or on minimum plate thickness for SLAs that
will see vibration in use?


Service Level Agreements?


Symbionese Liberation Armies? Patty Hearst is still alive, you know.


She's only 57.

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%



MuddyMike April 5th 11 02:40 PM

Lead acid repair
 

"John Rumm" wrote in message
...
On 05/04/2011 08:35, MuddyMike wrote:
wrote in message
...
I expect to be disassembling some SLAs very soon to rebuild, since I
can't get what I'm looking for commercially. Any tips on case
disassembly with SLAs? Or on minimum plate thickness for SLAs that
will see vibration in use?


Why would you disassembling some Scottish Law Agents?
http://www.SLAs.co.uk/
I did try a Google search but the results didn't show anything remotely
DIY.
What are you on about?


The clue is in the message title! ;-)

OK. Lead acid repair = SLAs???
This is a DIY newsgroup not a crossword puzzle.

Mike



F Murtz[_2_] April 5th 11 02:51 PM

Lead acid repair
 
Tabby wrote:
I expect to be disassembling some SLAs very soon to rebuild, since I
can't get what I'm looking for commercially. Any tips on case
disassembly with SLAs? Or on minimum plate thickness for SLAs that
will see vibration in use?


NT

Now you see what happens when questions are reduced to acronyms
If you had said sealed lead acid you may have got an answer instead of
every body having fun and giggles (not that there is anything wrong with
that)

Steve Walker[_3_] April 5th 11 08:42 PM

Lead acid repair
 
On 05/04/2011 14:40, MuddyMike wrote:
"John wrote in message
...
On 05/04/2011 08:35, MuddyMike wrote:
wrote in message
...
I expect to be disassembling some SLAs very soon to rebuild, since I
can't get what I'm looking for commercially. Any tips on case
disassembly with SLAs? Or on minimum plate thickness for SLAs that
will see vibration in use?


Why would you disassembling some Scottish Law Agents?
http://www.SLAs.co.uk/
I did try a Google search but the results didn't show anything remotely
DIY.
What are you on about?


The clue is in the message title! ;-)

OK. Lead acid repair = SLAs???
This is a DIY newsgroup not a crossword puzzle.

Mike


Sealed Lead Acid (Gel cell) batteries. The sort of thing that you can
turn upside down without the acid leaking.

SteveW



MuddyMike April 5th 11 10:38 PM

Lead acid repair
 

"Steve Walker" wrote in message
...
On 05/04/2011 14:40, MuddyMike wrote:
"John wrote in message
...
On 05/04/2011 08:35, MuddyMike wrote:
wrote in message
...
I expect to be disassembling some SLAs very soon to rebuild, since I
can't get what I'm looking for commercially. Any tips on case
disassembly with SLAs? Or on minimum plate thickness for SLAs that
will see vibration in use?


Why would you disassembling some Scottish Law Agents?
http://www.SLAs.co.uk/
I did try a Google search but the results didn't show anything remotely
DIY.
What are you on about?

The clue is in the message title! ;-)

OK. Lead acid repair = SLAs???
This is a DIY newsgroup not a crossword puzzle.

Mike


Sealed Lead Acid (Gel cell) batteries. The sort of thing that you can turn
upside down without the acid leaking.


Or wang a 6 inch nail through like the Optima red top on my Land Rover?
Still too few clues.

Mike



Bill[_18_] April 5th 11 11:04 PM

Lead acid repair
 
In message
,
Tabby writes
I expect to be disassembling some SLAs very soon to rebuild, since I
can't get what I'm looking for commercially. Any tips on case
disassembly with SLAs? Or on minimum plate thickness for SLAs that
will see vibration in use?

Well, it's a shame that there are no answers because my son has just
brought me two 12 volt sealed lead acid batteries to look at.
I put them on my old traditional transformer + rectifier charger and
they pull about 2 amps in, settle back off-charge at about 10 volts, and
one section in the middle seems to be hotter than the surrounding area.

So, I'd be interested in any info as well.
--
Bill

Steve Walker April 6th 11 08:44 AM

Lead acid repair
 
Graham. wrote:
"Skipweasel" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...
I expect to be disassembling some SLAs very soon to rebuild, since I
can't get what I'm looking for commercially. Any tips on case
disassembly with SLAs? Or on minimum plate thickness for SLAs that
will see vibration in use?

Service Level Agreements?


Symbionese Liberation Armies? Patty Hearst is still alive, you know.


She's only 57.


would.



Bob Minchin[_4_] April 6th 11 10:22 AM

Lead acid repair
 
Bill wrote:
In message
,
Tabby writes
I expect to be disassembling some SLAs very soon to rebuild, since I
can't get what I'm looking for commercially. Any tips on case
disassembly with SLAs? Or on minimum plate thickness for SLAs that
will see vibration in use?

Well, it's a shame that there are no answers because my son has just
brought me two 12 volt sealed lead acid batteries to look at.
I put them on my old traditional transformer + rectifier charger and
they pull about 2 amps in, settle back off-charge at about 10 volts, and
one section in the middle seems to be hotter than the surrounding area.

So, I'd be interested in any info as well.

That suggests a shorted cell.
They should always be charged at constant voltage not on a traditional
charger. 2.35v per cell until charged, 2.25 float charge max
Stored ones must be charged at least every 6 months.


After many attempt to bring leads acis back from the dead I no longer
bother. IME they never come back to anything like reliable performance.
They can't be realistically opened, the best you can do is to drill down
to the connecting straps to connect to individual cells.

Bob

Tabby April 6th 11 10:32 AM

Lead acid repair
 
On Apr 6, 10:22*am, Bob Minchin
wrote:
Bill wrote:
In message
,
Tabby writes
I expect to be disassembling some SLAs very soon to rebuild, since I
can't get what I'm looking for commercially. Any tips on case
disassembly with SLAs? Or on minimum plate thickness for SLAs that
will see vibration in use?


Well, it's a shame that there are no answers because my son has just
brought me two 12 volt sealed lead acid batteries to look at.
I put them on my old traditional transformer + rectifier charger and
they pull about 2 amps in, settle back off-charge at about 10 volts, and
one section in the middle seems to be hotter than the surrounding area.


So, I'd be interested in any info as well.


That suggests a shorted cell.
They should always be charged at constant voltage not on a traditional
charger. 2.35v per cell until charged, 2.25 float charge max
Stored ones must be charged at least every 6 months.

After many attempt to bring leads acis back from the dead I no longer
bother. IME they never come back to anything like reliable performance.
They can't be realistically opened, the best you can do is to drill down
to the connecting straps to connect to individual cells.

Bob


Likely course of action is to set hand held circular saw to very
shallow, and cut all around the sides near the top. When done,
thinking of regluing it back on with silicone and reinforcing the
whole thing with an all round layer of duct tape. A bit bodgy but
should do the job - I'm pretty much assuming the case is welded
together, not prise-apartable.


NT


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 09:10 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2014 DIYbanter