Oil tank alarms
 

Anyone got on advice on a decent oil tank alarm please? Must be easy to
fit and tamper proof (and, assuming it's wireless, not possible to
block the signal to the receiver, etc).

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Oil tank alarms
 

On 10 Dec 2010 21:15:24 GMT, Matt wrote:

Anyone got on advice on a decent oil tank alarm please?

Do you mean alarm as in "my contents are being stolen" or alarm as in
"I'm very nearly empty"?

I'm not aware of any of the former, the closest I've seen is a
lockable clamp for the filler cap.

http://www.cheapestoil.co.uk/shop/oil-tank-lock.aspx

The problem with theft is the beggers who do it don't really care,
lock the cap and they'll simply cut a hole in the tank stick a hose
in connected to a pump/tank in the back of their van and pump away.
If the hole is below the oil level so what?

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Cheers
Dave.

Oil tank alarms
 

On Dec 10, 9:15*pm, "Matt" wrote:
Anyone got on advice on a decent oil tank alarm please? Must be easy to
fit and tamper proof (and, assuming it's wireless, not possible to
block the signal to the receiver, etc).

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Try here
http://www.boilerjuice.com/shop/cat/...-security.html

Oil tank alarms
 

Gel wrote:

On Dec 10, 9:15*pm, "Matt" wrote:
Anyone got on advice on a decent oil tank alarm please? Must be
easy to fit and tamper proof (and, assuming it's wireless, not
possible to block the signal to the receiver, etc).

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Try here
http://www.boilerjuice.com/shop/cat/...-security.html

Thanks. I think a lock might just cause more problems as any thieves
will just drill a hole in the side and syphon off the contents. What's
needed is an alarm like the Watchman but which also has a tamper proof
mechnism so it can't simply be removed or somehow disabled.

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Oil tank alarms
 

Can you build an onduline shed around it - tannalised wood, onduline,
fake window, fake door?
Essentially the inflatable tanks in reverse, unless some regulations
prohibit it.

Is it possible to bury a bunded tank, concrete lintels and slabs on
top?

If a tank is 1000L I can see someday it being worth £1k if not more,
black gold sitting in the garden as it were.

Oil tank alarms
 

On Dec 10, 10:51*pm, "Matt" wrote:
Gel wrote:
On Dec 10, 9:15 pm, "Matt" wrote:
Anyone got on advice on a decent oil tank alarm please? Must be
easy to fit and tamper proof (and, assuming it's wireless, not
possible to block the signal to the receiver, etc).

--

Try here
http://www.boilerjuice.com/shop/cat/...-security.html

Thanks. I think a lock might just cause more problems as any thieves
will just drill a hole in the side and syphon off the contents. What's
needed is an alarm like the Watchman but which also has a tamper proof
mechnism so it can't simply be removed or somehow disabled.

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I've got a Watchman-sonic tank level monitor, which works perfectly.

Seems they do a similar alarm system as well:

http://www.sensor-systems.com/produc...ion.html#Alarm

Oil tank alarms
 

wrote:

On Dec 10, 10:51*pm, "Matt" wrote:
Gel wrote:
On Dec 10, 9:15 pm, "Matt" wrote:
Anyone got on advice on a decent oil tank alarm please? Must be
easy to fit and tamper proof (and, assuming it's wireless, not
possible to block the signal to the receiver, etc).

--

Try here
http://www.boilerjuice.com/shop/cat/...-security.html

Thanks. I think a lock might just cause more problems as any thieves
will just drill a hole in the side and syphon off the contents.
What's needed is an alarm like the Watchman but which also has a
tamper proof mechnism so it can't simply be removed or somehow
disabled.

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I've got a Watchman-sonic tank level monitor, which works perfectly.

Seems they do a similar alarm system as well:

http://www.sensor-systems.com/produc...ion.html#Alarm


I was looking at the Watchman - looks good, but is it tamper proof? I
mean what's to stop some enterprising thief from unscrewing it, so
preventing it from sending an alarm to the receiver?

Or, for that matter, somehow shielding it so that it can't send an
alarm to the receiver?
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Oil tank alarms
 

On Dec 11, 10:03*am, "Matt" wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 10, 10:51 pm, "Matt" wrote:
Gel wrote:
On Dec 10, 9:15 pm, "Matt" wrote:
Anyone got on advice on a decent oil tank alarm please? Must be
easy to fit and tamper proof (and, assuming it's wireless, not
possible to block the signal to the receiver, etc).

--

Try here
http://www.boilerjuice.com/shop/cat/...-security.html

Thanks. I think a lock might just cause more problems as any thieves
will just drill a hole in the side and syphon off the contents.
What's needed is an alarm like the Watchman but which also has a
tamper proof mechnism so it can't simply be removed or somehow
disabled.

--

I've got a Watchman-sonic tank level monitor, which works perfectly.

Seems they do a similar alarm system as well:

http://www.sensor-systems.com/produc...ion.html#Alarm

I was looking at the Watchman - looks good, but is it tamper proof? I
mean what's to stop some enterprising thief from unscrewing it, so
preventing it from sending an alarm to the receiver?

Or, for that matter, somehow shielding it so that it can't send an
alarm to the receiver?
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Unless he was Fingers McFingers, the ace safe-cracker - if he'd
unscrewed it, the distance between the sensor and surface (usually the
oil level surface) would change - hence an alarm.

(I tried this with my tank-level sensor when I was setting it up,
varying the distance above the table-top, and checking the display -
to make sure they'd paired properly).

OTOH most oil-tank oil thieves are probably mindless thugs that
wouldn't give a f*** about an alarm - unless someone scary is right
there to take some enforcement action.

As always - a dog with great big gnashy teeth is the best protection.

Maybe you can teach him to bark out the oil level.

Another approach would be to rig up motion sensors near the tank, so
they get the sirens and lights if they shouldn't be near there.

Oil tank alarms
 

Unless he was Fingers McFingers, the ace safe-cracker - if he'd
unscrewed it, the distance between the sensor and surface (usually the
oil level surface) would change - hence an alarm.

(I tried this with my tank-level sensor when I was setting it up,
varying the distance above the table-top, and checking the display -
to make sure they'd paired properly).

OTOH most oil-tank oil thieves are probably mindless thugs that
wouldn't give a f*** about an alarm - unless someone scary is right
there to take some enforcement action.

As always - a dog with great big gnashy teeth is the best protection.

Maybe you can teach him to bark out the oil level.

Another approach would be to rig up motion sensors near the tank, so
they get the sirens and lights if they shouldn't be near there.


That's the dilemma isn't it - how far do you go to protect an oil tank?

I'm not convinced about locking it as a determined thief will simply
drill a hole in the tank and so make a hell of a mess. To my mind the
'best' option seems to be to leave the tank so there is easy access to
the refill point, BUT to fit an alarm.

As you say, your average brain dead thug isn't going to worry too much
about an alarm, but it at least warns the householder so they can call
the cops.

Putting Fido on guard is an option, but he can't be there all the time.

Motion sensors - nice, but possibly could be tripped by wildlife,
leading to many false alarms?

I do like this option though:

http://www.ultimatehandyman.co.uk/ALARM_MINES.htm

a blank shotgun cartridge attached to a trip wire. :-)



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Oil tank alarms
 

On Dec 11, 10:24*am, " wrote:
OTOH most oil-tank oil thieves are probably mindless
thugs that wouldn't give a f*** about an alarm

Hmmm.... bush... cheney.... halliburton... :-)

Oil tank alarms
 

On Dec 11, 2:54*pm, "js.b1" wrote:
On Dec 11, 10:24*am, " wrote:

OTOH most oil-tank oil thieves are probably mindless
thugs that wouldn't give a f*** about an alarm

Hmmm.... bush... cheney.... halliburton... :-)

There ya go.

If Saddam had got himself some great big Rotweilers, he'd still be the
boss.

Oil tank alarms
 

wrote in message
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On Dec 11, 2:54 pm, "js.b1" wrote:
On Dec 11, 10:24 am, " wrote:

OTOH most oil-tank oil thieves are probably mindless
thugs that wouldn't give a f*** about an alarm

Hmmm.... bush... cheney.... halliburton... :-)

There ya go.

If Saddam had got himself some great big Rotweilers, he'd still be the
boss.

I use a small cheap (£9) movement alarm that also operates when a pin is
pulled out.
I use it on a holiday property and can be extended by using fishing line to
cover greater distances.
It could be set at a height well above animals and would be almost
invisible.
I cover 4 windows with mine using screw in eyelet hooks to go around corners
etc.

It could be positioned away from the tank but across the likely approach
path.

http://www.besafealarms.com/BSA57/Mo...rm-(MD194).htm

Oil tank alarms
 

SS wrote:


wrote in message

... On Dec 11, 2:54 pm, "js.b1" wrote: On Dec
11, 10:24 am, " wrote:

OTOH most oil-tank oil thieves are probably mindless
thugs that wouldn't give a f*** about an alarm

Hmmm.... bush... cheney.... halliburton... :-)

There ya go.

If Saddam had got himself some great big Rotweilers, he'd still be the
boss.

I use a small cheap (#9) movement alarm that also operates when a pin
is pulled out. I use it on a holiday property and can be extended by
using fishing line to cover greater distances. It could be set at a
height well above animals and would be almost invisible. I cover 4
windows with mine using screw in eyelet hooks to go around corners
etc.

It could be positioned away from the tank but across the likely
approach path.

http://www.besafealarms.com/BSA57/Mo...rm-(MD194).htm



I like that idea (for all kinds of reasons) - thanks for the suggestion
and link
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Oil tank alarms
 

On Dec 11, 11:18*am, "Matt" wrote:


a blank shotgun cartridge attached to a trip wire. :-)

How about a live one pointed in the appropriate direction?

Oil tank alarms
 

"Matt" wrote in message
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SS wrote:


wrote in message

... On Dec 11, 2:54 pm, "js.b1" wrote: On Dec
11, 10:24 am, " wrote:

OTOH most oil-tank oil thieves are probably mindless
thugs that wouldn't give a f*** about an alarm

Hmmm.... bush... cheney.... halliburton... :-)

There ya go.

If Saddam had got himself some great big Rotweilers, he'd still be the
boss.

I use a small cheap (#9) movement alarm that also operates when a pin
is pulled out. I use it on a holiday property and can be extended by
using fishing line to cover greater distances. It could be set at a
height well above animals and would be almost invisible. I cover 4
windows with mine using screw in eyelet hooks to go around corners
etc.

It could be positioned away from the tank but across the likely
approach path.

http://www.besafealarms.com/BSA57/Mo...rm-(MD194).htm



I like that idea (for all kinds of reasons) - thanks for the suggestion
and link
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Glad to be of help Matt, with a little imagination they can be very
versatile and almost invisible to the casual observer.
Sometimes we try to be too clever and to expensive.
I am currently working on a roman lock for a shed that will cost nothing and
be almost impossible to open (unless you know how)
It is so basic it will defeat most anyone.

Oil tank alarms
 

On Friday, 10 December 2010 21:15:24 UTC, Matt wrote:
Anyone got on advice on a decent oil tank alarm please? Must be easy to
fit and tamper proof (and, assuming it's wireless, not possible to
block the signal to the receiver, etc).

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