Another question re moving my Thorn M54 boiler
 

Thanks to all for the input re my question about repositioning my floor-
standing Thorn M54 boiler.

Where the boiler was previously positioned, it had a straight, vertical
flue going up into the old chimney. (The boiler was standing in what used
to be the old kitchen fireplace.)

The flue is about 5 ft long, and made of asbestos or possibly cement &
fibre.

I now need a flue that goes vertically up for about 3 ft and then does a
90-degree bend and goes out through the house's cavity wall.

Where can I obtain a cheapish flue components that would be suitable? I
think all I need is a straight piece of 4" diameter tube, plus a right-
angle bend, and a simple flue-terminating ghizmo for the outside of the
house. Regarding the straight sections, I guess I could use the old flue,
cut into two sections (wearing a face mask in case it's asbestos).

Having said that, the flue will be fully visible in my kitchen so something
a bit nicer-looking might be prefereable if I can do it without pawning the
family jewels.

Thanks,

Al

Another question re moving my Thorn M54 boiler
 

"AL_n" wrote in message
...
Thanks to all for the input re my question about repositioning my floor-
standing Thorn M54 boiler.

Where the boiler was previously positioned, it had a straight, vertical
flue going up into the old chimney. (The boiler was standing in what used
to be the old kitchen fireplace.)

The flue is about 5 ft long, and made of asbestos or possibly cement &
fibre.

I now need a flue that goes vertically up for about 3 ft and then does a
90-degree bend and goes out through the house's cavity wall.

Where can I obtain a cheapish flue components that would be suitable? I
think all I need is a straight piece of 4" diameter tube, plus a right-
angle bend, and a simple flue-terminating ghizmo for the outside of the
house. Regarding the straight sections, I guess I could use the old flue,
cut into two sections (wearing a face mask in case it's asbestos).

Having said that, the flue will be fully visible in my kitchen so
something
a bit nicer-looking might be prefereable if I can do it without pawning
the
family jewels.

Thanks,

Al


What you need is the old gas appliance rigid flue, twists together, you can
get the offsets and terminals. however all todays modern
boilers have fan assisted flue's, so you will have to delve aound for the
old stuff, some of the old type plumbers merchants
might have some knocking about. You need to go throught the wall with an
offset not at 90, and the flue should rise up the wall to terminate 1mtr
above any opening light
think you are trying to convert it to a balenced flue with the ghizmo thing,
and it cannot be done.
good luck

Another question re moving my Thorn M54 boiler
 

"A Plumber" wrote in
o.uk:

What you need is the old gas appliance rigid flue, twists together,
you can get the offsets and terminals. however all todays modern
boilers have fan assisted flue's, so you will have to delve aound for
the old stuff, some of the old type plumbers merchants
might have some knocking about. You need to go throught the wall with
an offset not at 90, and the flue should rise up the wall to terminate
1mtr above any opening light
think you are trying to convert it to a balenced flue with the ghizmo
thing, and it cannot be done.
good luck

Thank you for the info. Does a door (i.e., the front door of the house)
equate to an "opening light",or does the "opening light" term specifically
mean "window"? When did this building reg come into force, any idea?

Al

Another question re moving my Thorn M54 boiler
 

In article ,
"AL_n" writes:
"A Plumber" wrote in
o.uk:

What you need is the old gas appliance rigid flue, twists together,
you can get the offsets and terminals. however all todays modern
boilers have fan assisted flue's, so you will have to delve aound for
the old stuff, some of the old type plumbers merchants
might have some knocking about. You need to go throught the wall with
an offset not at 90, and the flue should rise up the wall to terminate
1mtr above any opening light
think you are trying to convert it to a balenced flue with the ghizmo
thing, and it cannot be done.
good luck

Thank you for the info. Does a door (i.e., the front door of the house)
equate to an "opening light",or does the "opening light" term specifically
mean "window"? When did this building reg come into force, any idea?

Forget this route.
Whilst I might not say you must chuck out such a boiler and
get a modern one if it was just sitting there working,
there's no way you should be reinstalling this boiler.
Now is definitely the time to chuck it, and the time and
money you are spending on reinstalling it is a complete waste.
You don't have the right bits, you will probably struggle to
get new seals and other parts needed during installation, you
don't seem to have the installation manual, it's the type of
appliance which can all too easily kill you and you don't know
how to install such an appliance safely, and it's not legal to
do so anymore anyway. Chuck it.

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

Another question re moving my Thorn M54 boiler
 

On 04/10/2010 19:53, A Plumber wrote:
wrote in message
...
Thanks to all for the input re my question about repositioning my floor-
standing Thorn M54 boiler.

Where the boiler was previously positioned, it had a straight, vertical
flue going up into the old chimney. (The boiler was standing in what used
to be the old kitchen fireplace.)

The flue is about 5 ft long, and made of asbestos or possibly cement&
fibre.

I now need a flue that goes vertically up for about 3 ft and then does a
90-degree bend and goes out through the house's cavity wall.

Where can I obtain a cheapish flue components that would be suitable? I
think all I need is a straight piece of 4" diameter tube, plus a right-
angle bend, and a simple flue-terminating ghizmo for the outside of the
house. Regarding the straight sections, I guess I could use the old flue,
cut into two sections (wearing a face mask in case it's asbestos).

Having said that, the flue will be fully visible in my kitchen so
something
a bit nicer-looking might be prefereable if I can do it without pawning
the
family jewels.

Thanks,

Al


What you need is the old gas appliance rigid flue, twists together, you can
get the offsets and terminals. however all todays modern
boilers have fan assisted flue's, so you will have to delve aound for the
old stuff, some of the old type plumbers merchants
might have some knocking about. You need to go throught the wall with an
offset not at 90, and the flue should rise up the wall to terminate 1mtr
above any opening light
think you are trying to convert it to a balenced flue with the ghizmo thing,
and it cannot be done.
good luck

I was just going to answer about the outlet regulations.

Dave

Another question re moving my Thorn M54 boiler
 

AL_n wrote:
Thanks to all for the input re my question about repositioning my floor-
standing Thorn M54 boiler.

Where the boiler was previously positioned, it had a straight, vertical
flue going up into the old chimney. (The boiler was standing in what used
to be the old kitchen fireplace.)

The flue is about 5 ft long, and made of asbestos or possibly cement&
fibre.

I now need a flue that goes vertically up for about 3 ft and then does a
90-degree bend and goes out through the house's cavity wall.

Where can I obtain a cheapish flue components that would be suitable? I
think all I need is a straight piece of 4" diameter tube, plus a right-
angle bend, and a simple flue-terminating ghizmo for the outside of the
house. Regarding the straight sections, I guess I could use the old flue,
cut into two sections (wearing a face mask in case it's asbestos).

Having said that, the flue will be fully visible in my kitchen so something
a bit nicer-looking might be prefereable if I can do it without pawning the
family jewels.

Thanks,

Al

I used Rite Vent http://www.schiedel.co.uk/rite-vent
when I last did a gas install.
Twin wall is the stuff to use.

Bob

Another question re moving my Thorn M54 boiler
 

"Bob Minchin" wrote in message
...
AL_n wrote:
Thanks to all for the input re my question about repositioning my floor-
standing Thorn M54 boiler.

Where the boiler was previously positioned, it had a straight, vertical
flue going up into the old chimney. (The boiler was standing in what used
to be the old kitchen fireplace.)

The flue is about 5 ft long, and made of asbestos or possibly cement&
fibre.

I now need a flue that goes vertically up for about 3 ft and then does a
90-degree bend and goes out through the house's cavity wall.

Where can I obtain a cheapish flue components that would be suitable? I
think all I need is a straight piece of 4" diameter tube, plus a right-
angle bend, and a simple flue-terminating ghizmo for the outside of the
house. Regarding the straight sections, I guess I could use the old flue,
cut into two sections (wearing a face mask in case it's asbestos).

Having said that, the flue will be fully visible in my kitchen so
something
a bit nicer-looking might be prefereable if I can do it without pawning
the
family jewels.

Thanks,

Al

I used Rite Vent http://www.schiedel.co.uk/rite-vent
when I last did a gas install.
Twin wall is the stuff to use.

Bob

Don't forget to get a qualified gas fitter in to do the gas work and check
the flueing is to regs