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A friend has moved into a new house with an Accenta 8 alarm system
which was originally installed by Protec, who were taken over by Initial then Chubb. It looks like the battery is flat as when he had to switch the electric off, the alarm went off. I believe to change the battery he'll need the engineer code, which Chubb won't let him have and want to charge a silly amount to come and change it. On the panel is written "Initial eng code". Anyone know what the engineer code Initial used is please? TIA, Jason |
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"zorro" gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying: Anyone know what the engineer code Initial used is please? Have you considered that putting a widely used master code for security alarms into the public domain might not be the best of plans? |
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On 11 Aug, 12:43, Adrian wrote:
"zorro" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: Anyone know what the engineer code Initial used is please? Have you considered that putting a widely used master code for security alarms into the public domain might not be the best of plans? especially "Jason" as it appears to be your first message on usenet with that email address....doh! guess your "friend" will have to pay up or dump the alarm and buy another ;) simples! |
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"Adrian" wrote in message ... "zorro" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: Anyone know what the engineer code Initial used is please? Have you considered that putting a widely used master code for security alarms into the public domain might not be the best of plans? You can't unset the alarm with it so it'd be no use to burglars. Anyway my email is valid. Jason |
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"Jim K" wrote in message ... On 11 Aug, 12:43, Adrian wrote: "zorro" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: Anyone know what the engineer code Initial used is please? Have you considered that putting a widely used master code for security alarms into the public domain might not be the best of plans? especially "Jason" as it appears to be your first message on usenet with that email address....doh! Yes, I usually use an invalid email. -- Andy |
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On 11 Aug, 13:12, "zorro" wrote:
"Jim K" wrote in message ... On 11 Aug, 12:43, Adrian wrote: "zorro" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: Anyone know what the engineer code Initial used is please? Have you considered that putting a widely used master code for security alarms into the public domain might not be the best of plans? especially "Jason" as it appears to be your first message on usenet with that email address....doh! Yes, I usually use an invalid email. -- Andy andy? was "jason" first time? LOL |
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"Jim K" wrote guess your "friend" will have to pay up or dump the alarm and buy another ;) simples! Can't he just set the thing off, disable the bell box battery (to silence the external sounder) then locate the factory reset button-thingy to return the panel to factory defaults? Granted he'll need to get instructions for re-setting of the panel and then re-programming with zone info etc before hand. If the alarm is generally good this has to be a better option for battery replacement than junking the equipment. Phil |
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On 11 Aug, 12:40, "zorro" wrote:
A friend has moved into a new house with an Accenta 8 alarm system which was originally installed by Protec, who were taken over by Initial then Chubb. It looks like the battery is flat as when he had to switch the electric off, the alarm went off. I believe to change the battery he'll need the engineer code, which Chubb won't let him have and want to charge a silly amount to come and change it. On the panel is written "Initial eng code". Anyone know what the engineer code Initial used is please? TIA, Jason I used to have a maintained and monitored system in a previous property, and my alarm company was a member of NACOSS http://www.nacoss.org.uk/ IIRC, NACOSS rules say that alarm companies must hand over the engineer code to the homeowner free of charge, if the homeowner ends the maintainance contract. |
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"TheScullster" wrote in message . uk... "Jim K" wrote guess your "friend" will have to pay up or dump the alarm and buy another ;) simples! Can't he just set the thing off, disable the bell box battery (to silence the external sounder) then locate the factory reset button-thingy to return the panel to factory defaults? Granted he'll need to get instructions for re-setting of the panel and then re-programming with zone info etc before hand. If the alarm is generally good this has to be a better option for battery replacement than junking the equipment. He does have the instructions to do a factory reset and reprogram, which he'll do if all else fails. Someone in another group suggested just what he did ie changing the battery while the alarm is going off, which would be quicker than a factory reset. But he'll need to check the engineer code isn't needed to reset after a 'tamper'. Although he's now got this crazy idea of going through all 10,000 codes till one works, he reckons he can do 100 in 6 mins so he can the lot in 10 hours but I'm sure he'll knacker the keypad before then! |
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wrote in message ... On 11 Aug, 12:40, "zorro" wrote: A friend has moved into a new house with an Accenta 8 alarm system which was originally installed by Protec, who were taken over by Initial then Chubb. It looks like the battery is flat as when he had to switch the electric off, the alarm went off. I believe to change the battery he'll need the engineer code, which Chubb won't let him have and want to charge a silly amount to come and change it. On the panel is written "Initial eng code". Anyone know what the engineer code Initial used is please? TIA, Jason I used to have a maintained and monitored system in a previous property, and my alarm company was a member of NACOSS http://www.nacoss.org.uk/ IIRC, NACOSS rules say that alarm companies must hand over the engineer code to the homeowner free of charge, if the homeowner ends the maintainance contract. Thanks - but unfortunately it was the previous occupants who cancelled the contract several years ago. |
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"Jim K" wrote in message ... On 11 Aug, 13:12, "zorro" wrote: "Jim K" wrote in message ... On 11 Aug, 12:43, Adrian wrote: "zorro" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: Anyone know what the engineer code Initial used is please? Have you considered that putting a widely used master code for security alarms into the public domain might not be the best of plans? especially "Jason" as it appears to be your first message on usenet with that email address....doh! Yes, I usually use an invalid email. -- Andy andy? was "jason" first time? LOL Well you didn't seem to believe "Jason" did you "Jim" |
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Adrian wrote:
"zorro" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: Anyone know what the engineer code Initial used is please? Have you considered that putting a widely used master code for security alarms into the public domain might not be the best of plans? It is probably not a good idea. I have however phoned a friend and by tomorrow night I should have the answer. -- Adam |
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zorro wrote:
"Jim K" wrote in message ... On 11 Aug, 12:43, Adrian wrote: "zorro" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: Anyone know what the engineer code Initial used is please? Have you considered that putting a widely used master code for security alarms into the public domain might not be the best of plans? especially "Jason" as it appears to be your first message on usenet with that email address....doh! Yes, I usually use an invalid email. Under what name? JimK knows who you are but I do not. It may or make a difference regarding me giving you the Initial master code. -- Adam |
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On 11 Aug, 19:15, "ARWadsworth"
wrote: JimK knows who you are but I do not. It may or make a difference regarding me giving you the Initial master code. eh? No I never heard of any of all 3 of 'em ;) Just found it a bit odd that someone starts posting form a "new" (yet allegedly valid) email addy asking burglar alarm security questions on 2 groups and using at least 2 names in 3 posts....call me shushpicious if need be.... Cheers Jim K |
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On 11 Aug, 12:43, Adrian wrote:
Have you considered that putting a widely used master code for security alarms into the public domain might not be the best of plans? Have you considered that it's already out there, and that the real fix would be to change it after installation? An Accenta panel is cheap and pretty common, so Bill Sykes can find this out, in a worst case, simply by buying a new panel. |
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"Jim K" wrote in message ... On 11 Aug, 19:15, "ARWadsworth" wrote: JimK knows who you are but I do not. It may or make a difference regarding me giving you the Initial master code. eh? No I never heard of any of all 3 of 'em ;) Just found it a bit odd that someone starts posting form a "new" (yet allegedly valid) email addy asking burglar alarm security questions on 2 groups and using at least 2 names in 3 posts....call me shushpicious if need be.... Well perhaps you're right to be suspicious. These are my usual posting details - I used my friend's name/email in case anyone preferred to email the details rather than potentially get into trouble by posting on a public forum. But then I'm still an anonymous stranger on usenet (after all anyone could use the posting details I'm using now, or those of any poster), if there's a security risk in giving out the engineer code then don't do it - he has other options and I've had lots of good advice. But AIUI the engineer code is for maintenance of the system and can't be used to unset the system - you can only get into engineer programming if the system is unset with the user code first. -- Andy |
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Andy Dingley wrote:
On 11 Aug, 12:43, Adrian wrote: Have you considered that putting a widely used master code for security alarms into the public domain might not be the best of plans? Have you considered that it's already out there, and that the real fix would be to change it after installation? An Accenta panel is cheap and pretty common, so Bill Sykes can find this out, in a worst case, simply by buying a new panel. Buying a new panel would only give you the factory default setting. Alarm installers always change the factory default setting so that the customer cannot make changes themselves. Most alarm companies change the factory defalt number to a number that is common to their firm. ADT for example always use the same engineers code on all their alarms. As I know the code I can modify their alarms. -- Adam |
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On Aug 12, 5:21 pm, "ARWadsworth"
wrote: Andy Dingley wrote: On 11 Aug, 12:43, Adrian wrote: Have you considered that putting a widely used master code for security alarms into the public domain might not be the best of plans? Have you considered that it's already out there, and that the real fix would be to change it after installation? An Accenta panel is cheap and pretty common, so Bill Sykes can find this out, in a worst case, simply by buying a new panel. Buying a new panel would only give you the factory default setting. Alarm installers always change the factory default setting so that the customer cannot make changes themselves. Most alarm companies change the factory defalt number to a number that is common to their firm. ADT for example always use the same engineers code on all their alarms. As I know the code I can modify their alarms. -- Adam could "mystery customer" (assuming it exists) not just fit the new panel ? or are there some other overheads that are best avoided? Jim K |
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Jim K wrote:
On Aug 12, 5:21 pm, "ARWadsworth" wrote: Andy Dingley wrote: On 11 Aug, 12:43, Adrian wrote: Have you considered that putting a widely used master code for security alarms into the public domain might not be the best of plans? Have you considered that it's already out there, and that the real fix would be to change it after installation? An Accenta panel is cheap and pretty common, so Bill Sykes can find this out, in a worst case, simply by buying a new panel. Buying a new panel would only give you the factory default setting. Alarm installers always change the factory default setting so that the customer cannot make changes themselves. Most alarm companies change the factory defalt number to a number that is common to their firm. ADT for example always use the same engineers code on all their alarms. As I know the code I can modify their alarms. -- Adam could "mystery customer" (assuming it exists) not just fit the new panel ? or are there some other overheads that are best avoided? Jim K You have lost me with the mystery customer? I have come across some alarm panels where it is easier and cheaper just to swap the panel for a new panel. I do not take control of the panel by changing the engineers code and keeping it for the use of extracting more money from a customer. -- Adam |
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On 12 Aug, 19:45, "ARWadsworth"
wrote: Jim K wrote: On Aug 12, 5:21 pm, "ARWadsworth" wrote: Andy Dingley wrote: On 11 Aug, 12:43, Adrian wrote: Have you considered that putting a widely used master code for security alarms into the public domain might not be the best of plans? Have you considered that it's already out there, and that the real fix would be to change it after installation? An Accenta panel is cheap and pretty common, so Bill Sykes can find this out, in a worst case, simply by buying a new panel. Buying a new panel would only give you the factory default setting. Alarm installers always change the factory default setting so that the customer cannot make changes themselves. Most alarm companies change the factory defalt number to a number that is common to their firm. ADT for example always use the same engineers code on all their alarms. As I know the code I can modify their alarms. -- Adam could "mystery customer" (assuming it exists) not just fit the new panel ? or are there some other overheads that are best avoided? Jim K You have lost me with the mystery customer? sorry;) I meant jason/andy/pandy/zorro/ben10's mate with the alarm problem I have come across some alarm panels where it is easier and cheaper just to swap the panel for a new panel. thassa what I wasa gettin at - as another way for the "mysterious" person with the prob. to get around... I do not take control of the panel by changing the engineers code and keeping it for the use of extracting more money from a customer. I believe you ;) Cheers Jim K |
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Jim K wrote:
On 12 Aug, 19:45, "ARWadsworth" wrote: Jim K wrote: On Aug 12, 5:21 pm, "ARWadsworth" wrote: Andy Dingley wrote: On 11 Aug, 12:43, Adrian wrote: Have you considered that putting a widely used master code for security alarms into the public domain might not be the best of plans? Have you considered that it's already out there, and that the real fix would be to change it after installation? An Accenta panel is cheap and pretty common, so Bill Sykes can find this out, in a worst case, simply by buying a new panel. Buying a new panel would only give you the factory default setting. Alarm installers always change the factory default setting so that the customer cannot make changes themselves. Most alarm companies change the factory defalt number to a number that is common to their firm. ADT for example always use the same engineers code on all their alarms. As I know the code I can modify their alarms. -- Adam could "mystery customer" (assuming it exists) not just fit the new panel ? or are there some other overheads that are best avoided? Jim K You have lost me with the mystery customer? sorry;) I meant jason/andy/pandy/zorro/ben10's mate with the alarm problem I have come across some alarm panels where it is easier and cheaper just to swap the panel for a new panel. thassa what I wasa gettin at - as another way for the "mysterious" person with the prob. to get around... I do not take control of the panel by changing the engineers code and keeping it for the use of extracting more money from a customer. I believe you ;) Cheers Jim K I gave Zorro, Andy or Jason the code. -- Adam |
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On Aug 12, 8:44 pm, "ARWadsworth"
wrote: Jim K wrote: On 12 Aug, 19:45, "ARWadsworth" wrote: Jim K wrote: On Aug 12, 5:21 pm, "ARWadsworth" wrote: Andy Dingley wrote: On 11 Aug, 12:43, Adrian wrote: Have you considered that putting a widely used master code for security alarms into the public domain might not be the best of plans? Have you considered that it's already out there, and that the real fix would be to change it after installation? An Accenta panel is cheap and pretty common, so Bill Sykes can find this out, in a worst case, simply by buying a new panel. Buying a new panel would only give you the factory default setting. Alarm installers always change the factory default setting so that the customer cannot make changes themselves. Most alarm companies change the factory defalt number to a number that is common to their firm. ADT for example always use the same engineers code on all their alarms. As I know the code I can modify their alarms. -- Adam could "mystery customer" (assuming it exists) not just fit the new panel ? or are there some other overheads that are best avoided? Jim K You have lost me with the mystery customer? sorry;) I meant jason/andy/pandy/zorro/ben10's mate with the alarm problem I have come across some alarm panels where it is easier and cheaper just to swap the panel for a new panel. thassa what I wasa gettin at - as another way for the "mysterious" person with the prob. to get around... I do not take control of the panel by changing the engineers code and keeping it for the use of extracting more money from a customer. I believe you ;) Cheers Jim K I gave Zorro, Andy or Jason the code. -- Adam I still believe you ;) Jim K |
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"ARWadsworth" wrote in message news:abY8o.96438$Y21.41815@hurricane... Jim K wrote: On 12 Aug, 19:45, "ARWadsworth" wrote: Jim K wrote: On Aug 12, 5:21 pm, "ARWadsworth" wrote: Andy Dingley wrote: On 11 Aug, 12:43, Adrian wrote: Have you considered that putting a widely used master code for security alarms into the public domain might not be the best of plans? Have you considered that it's already out there, and that the real fix would be to change it after installation? An Accenta panel is cheap and pretty common, so Bill Sykes can find this out, in a worst case, simply by buying a new panel. Buying a new panel would only give you the factory default setting. Alarm installers always change the factory default setting so that the customer cannot make changes themselves. Most alarm companies change the factory defalt number to a number that is common to their firm. ADT for example always use the same engineers code on all their alarms. As I know the code I can modify their alarms. -- Adam could "mystery customer" (assuming it exists) not just fit the new panel ? or are there some other overheads that are best avoided? Jim K You have lost me with the mystery customer? sorry;) I meant jason/andy/pandy/zorro/ben10's mate with the alarm problem I have come across some alarm panels where it is easier and cheaper just to swap the panel for a new panel. thassa what I wasa gettin at - as another way for the "mysterious" person with the prob. to get around... I do not take control of the panel by changing the engineers code and keeping it for the use of extracting more money from a customer. I believe you ;) Cheers Jim K I gave Zorro, Andy or Jason the code. And it worked! Thanks very much! -- Andy |
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Andy Pandy wrote:
I gave Zorro, Andy or Jason the code. And it worked! Thanks very much! Dennis will be along soon claiming that I have broken some law by passing the engineers number on. -- Adam |
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In article ,
" writes: I used to have a maintained and monitored system in a previous property, and my alarm company was a member of NACOSS http://www.nacoss.org.uk/ IIRC, NACOSS rules say that alarm companies must hand over the engineer code to the homeowner free of charge, if the homeowner ends the maintainance contract. That will depend on the homeowner owning the alarm. They rarely do if they dealt with an alarm company. If you are paying someone to buy and install an alarm for you, then you shouldn't pay until you have been handed over all the installation information such as instructions, codes, and programming details specific for your particular installation. Such a system can be monitored but cannot have emergency services callout if the customer has programming access to it. Whilst monitoring with emergency services callout is required, then programming would have to be withheld from the customer and the system must be on a maintenance contract. If you are paying for an alarm service (which is most the common), then you are renting the alarm, just like you used to have to rent a phone handset from the GPO, as part of their service. Such a system can be monitored with emergency services callout, because alarm company are responsible for the programming and design of the system. -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
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Hi Andy - we are in the same situation. Moved into a house with a fitted Chubb alarm, the thing started making a beeping noises during the middle of a movie, and then part way through the next movie the things starts wailing like bloody murder. We called chubb, as apparently it needs to be "reset" - however, charging over $400 5 days before Christmas just seems mean, when they just have a code to put in.
Can you pretty please share the engineers code so we can turn this darn alarm off and put our newborn baby to bed? |
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I do not think there is any one code. If there was it might be a bit of a
poor alarm. One supposes it might be linked to the serial number and I suppose if the company are rip off merchants, you are stuck. I'm not sure if these things are hackable. I'm always getting called byalarm folk trying to give me a free quote. Very generous, not. Brian -- From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active Remember, if you don't like where I post or what I say, you don't have to read my posts! :-) wrote in message ... Hi Andy - we are in the same situation. Moved into a house with a fitted Chubb alarm, the thing started making a beeping noises during the middle of a movie, and then part way through the next movie the things starts wailing like bloody murder. We called chubb, as apparently it needs to be "reset" - however, charging over $400 5 days before Christmas just seems mean, when they just have a code to put in. Can you pretty please share the engineers code so we can turn this darn alarm off and put our newborn baby to bed? |
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In article , Brian-Gaff
wrote: I do not think there is any one code. If there was it might be a bit of a poor alarm. One supposes it might be linked to the serial number and I suppose if the company are rip off merchants, you are stuck. I'm not sure if these things are hackable. I'm always getting called byalarm folk trying to give me a free quote. Very generous, not. Brian Generally, alarm service companies set their own unique "maintenance" code. This way they don't need to carry a reference book withem them. -- Please note new email address: |
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Hi Andy - we are in the same situation. Moved into a house with a fitted Chubb alarm, the thing started making a beeping noises during the middle of a movie, and then part way through the next movie the things starts wailing like bloody murder. We called chubb, as apparently it needs to be "reset" - however, charging over $400 5 days before Christmas just seems mean, when they just have a code to put in. Can you pretty please share the engineers code so we can turn this darn alarm off and put our newborn baby to bed? For that kind of money you'd be cheaper fitting a new control board if you DIY it. Tim |
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In article , Tim+ wrote:
wrote: Hi Andy - we are in the same situation. Moved into a house with a fitted Chubb alarm, the thing started making a beeping noises during the middle of a movie, and then part way through the next movie the things starts wailing like bloody murder. We called chubb, as apparently it needs to be "reset" - however, charging over $400 5 days before Christmas just seems mean, when they just have a code to put in. Can you pretty please share the engineers code so we can turn this darn alarm off and put our newborn baby to bed? For that kind of money you'd be cheaper fitting a new control board if you DIY it. If you've anything worth insuring, your insurance company will insist on an annual check by a reputable alarm company. -- Please note new email address: |
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In article ,
Brian-Gaff wrote: I do not think there is any one code. If there was it might be a bit of a poor alarm. One supposes it might be linked to the serial number and I suppose if the company are rip off merchants, you are stuck. I'm not sure if these things are hackable. I'm always getting called byalarm folk trying to give me a free quote. Very generous, not. Dunno these 'rented' types, but both of mine - one quite old now recently replaced - go back to the factory codes if powered down including the internal battery. -- *Why do we say something is out of whack? What is a whack? * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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In message , charles
writes In article , Tim+ wrote: wrote: Hi Andy - we are in the same situation. Moved into a house with a fitted Chubb alarm, the thing started making a beeping noises during the middle of a movie, and then part way through the next movie the things starts wailing like bloody murder. We called chubb, as apparently it needs to be "reset" - however, charging over $400 5 days before Christmas just seems mean, when they just have a code to put in. Can you pretty please share the engineers code so we can turn this darn alarm off and put our newborn baby to bed? For that kind of money you'd be cheaper fitting a new control board if you DIY it. If you've anything worth insuring, your insurance company will insist on an annual check by a reputable alarm company. Only if a an alarm is a requirement, or you want to get the benefit of any discount (which isn't normally much) We have an alarm, but not for the purposes of insurance -- Chris French |
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In article , Chris French
wrote: In message , charles writes In article , Tim+ wrote: wrote: Hi Andy - we are in the same situation. Moved into a house with a fitted Chubb alarm, the thing started making a beeping noises during the middle of a movie, and then part way through the next movie the things starts wailing like bloody murder. We called chubb, as apparently it needs to be "reset" - however, charging over $400 5 days before Christmas just seems mean, when they just have a code to put in. Can you pretty please share the engineers code so we can turn this darn alarm off and put our newborn baby to bed? For that kind of money you'd be cheaper fitting a new control board if you DIY it. If you've anything worth insuring, your insurance company will insist on an annual check by a reputable alarm company. Only if a an alarm is a requirement, or you want to get the benefit of any discount (which isn't normally much) We have an alarm, but not for the purposes of insurance which is why I said "If you've anything worth insuring". You might just have an alarm for your own peace of mind. I did for many years, but inheriting somthing rather valuable changed the situation. -- Please note new email address: |
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Google should provide you with a source to download the installers instructions and the users instructions. If I am thinking of the correct alarm panel the unit can be restored to factory default by powering down, fitting a jumper, powering up again. You may find it easier on the neighbours if you disconnect the speaker in the external siren box while you find your way through the system.
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Initial/Chubb burglar alarm engineer code
On Thursday, 12 August 2010 20:44:55 UTC+1, ARWadsworth wrote:
Jim K wrote: On 12 Aug, 19:45, "ARWadsworth" wrote: Jim K wrote: On Aug 12, 5:21 pm, "ARWadsworth" wrote: Andy Dingley wrote: On 11 Aug, 12:43, Adrian wrote: Have you considered that putting a widely used master code for security alarms into the public domain might not be the best of plans? Have you considered that it's already out there, and that the real fix would be to change it after installation? An Accenta panel is cheap and pretty common, so Bill Sykes can find this out, in a worst case, simply by buying a new panel. Buying a new panel would only give you the factory default setting. Alarm installers always change the factory default setting so that the customer cannot make changes themselves. Most alarm companies change the factory defalt number to a number that is common to their firm. ADT for example always use the same engineers code on all their alarms. As I know the code I can modify their alarms. -- Adam could "mystery customer" (assuming it exists) not just fit the new panel ? or are there some other overheads that are best avoided? Jim K You have lost me with the mystery customer? sorry;) I meant jason/andy/pandy/zorro/ben10's mate with the alarm problem I have come across some alarm panels where it is easier and cheaper just to swap the panel for a new panel. thassa what I wasa gettin at - as another way for the "mysterious" person with the prob. to get around... I do not take control of the panel by changing the engineers code and keeping it for the use of extracting more money from a customer. I believe you ;) Cheers Jim K I gave Zorro, Andy or Jason the code. -- Adam Hello Andy, would you be very kind and give me the code. I have an alarm system that was originally installed by a company that is not longer in business. The maintenance was taken over by Chubb before we bought the property. We now use the system un-monitored, but want to give the business to a non-Chubb company. |
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