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Tim Streater gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying: Despite the fact that closing speeds are VERY unlikely to be higher than 10mph or so when it's busy - precisely BECAUSE it's busy...? There was a case of a woman and children burnt to death because the lorry driver didn't stop. Just because he's only got a closing speed of 10mph or so didn't stop him crushing her car into the lorry in front. Assuming you're thinking of http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7878605.stm then considerably higher speed than that. Yes, indeed. But what's the relevance to the situation we were discussing? Momentum. Inattention and ****wittery. A lorry is a lot bigger than I am so I really don't like sitting next to one (or a coach, come to that) at 70mph. All the more reason to get past it as quickly as possible, no? Accelerate, pull out, accelerate past, pull in and decelerate. Again, though, that just reinforces the suggestion that the wagon is a lower risk than the car you may have missed seeing coming from behind fast. He's just going to bimble along merrily nose-to-tail with the one in front. If he's going to pull out, then you can see that - because you can see him closing on the one in front. Wagon drivers tend not to do unpredictable things. Mostly not. But I give the foreign-plated ones the biggest berth anyway. Make sure you spend as little time in his blind-spot as possible. |
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The Natural Philosopher gurgled happily, sounding
much like they were saying: I think we should ensure that cyclists are not allowed to speed anywhere! They aren't, they are subject to the same speed limits as cars. Almost all speed limits only legally apply to motor vehicles. (In practice of course almost all cyclists keep below the limits anyway.) I think you are actually wrong. Speed limits apply to everything. No, they don't. They are explicitly only applicable (with some exceptions) to motor vehicles. |
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The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Tim Downie wrote: dennis@home wrote: "Clot" wrote in message I think we should ensure that cyclists are not allowed to speed anywhere! They aren't, they are subject to the same speed limits as cars. As there is no legal requirement for bicycles to have speedometers cyclists cannot be charged with speeding. They can. And they have been Um, "Furious riding" perhaps but unless you can quote a specific example I think you'll find that the specific charge isn't for "speeding". See http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...promenade.html Tim |
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In article , The Natural Philosopher wrote:
I think you are actually wrong. Speed limits apply to everything. No. See http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content...tDocId=2223981 |
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Alan Braggins wrote:
In article , Tim Streater wrote: "Tim Downie" wrote: I think we should ensure that cyclists are not allowed to speed anywhere! They aren't, they are subject to the same speed limits as cars. As there is no legal requirement for bicycles to have speedometers cyclists cannot be charged with speeding. Wrong. There was a loony cyclist in Cambridge who got done. And quite right too - it's about expectations. He was done for "riding furiously", not for exceeding the speed limit, because not only does the speed limit not apply to cyclists, he wasn't exceeding it: http://www.camcycle.org.uk/newslette...article14.html This one caught my eye. http://news.scotsman.com/scotland/To...ing.3681474.jp 91mph for a cyclist? shirly shome mishtake :-) This is more sobering.. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-sto...5875-20636756/ |
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"Tim Downie" wrote in message ... dennis@home wrote: "Clot" wrote in message I think we should ensure that cyclists are not allowed to speed anywhere! They aren't, they are subject to the same speed limits as cars. As there is no legal requirement for bicycles to have speedometers cyclists cannot be charged with speeding. There are cars with no legal requirement for a speedo but they can still be done. You can drive a car (under limited circumstances) with a broken speedo, you can still be done. What makes you think a cycle is different? |
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"cynic" wrote in message ... I had a plod point a radar gun at me whilst on horseback but when I asked what speed I was doing he said I wouldn't register on radar and nor would the horse unless we carried something reflective to a radar signal. Shame really as my horses (Icelandics) can cover ground at a high rate of knots and the speed would have been interesting Ask him to use a laser gun then. |
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In article , The Natural Philosopher wrote:
This one caught my eye. http://news.scotsman.com/scotland/To...ing.3681474.jp 91mph for a cyclist? shirly shome mishtake :-) Yes, the 200m record is only 82.33mph: http://www.ihpva.org/hpvarec3.htm#nom01 This is more sobering.. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-sto...5875-20636756/ Where by "speeding" they mean doing "about 17mph", so however bad his behaviour was, it wasn't actually relevent to speed limits. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/b...ts/7496757.stm |
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On 08/07/2010 10:45, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , "Tim Downie" wrote: dennis@home wrote: "Clot" wrote in message I think we should ensure that cyclists are not allowed to speed anywhere! They aren't, they are subject to the same speed limits as cars. As there is no legal requirement for bicycles to have speedometers cyclists cannot be charged with speeding. Wrong. There was a loony cyclist in Cambridge who got done. And quite right too - it's about expectations. If I'm stooging along the motorway at 65, look in the mirror, and decide to overtake as the klod behind is a long way off, my expectation is that he will still be a long way behind after I've moved to the fast lane. I don't expect to find him up my exhaust because the **** was doing 110. Equally an old granny crossing the road is not going to expect to be knocked over by the 35mph cyclist as she steps into the road. I always wait until I have an idea of the speed of a vehicle coming up behind before pulling into one of the OVERTAKING lanes. Plod might be approaching at well over 100 in an unmarked car. On a dual carriageway you are well aware of what is coming up behind and will have noticed how fast a vehicle is catching up. I am a grandad and I watch for cycles gong the wrong way down one way streets let alone gong too fast. Nowadays the old grandma is probably more likely to be hit by a cycle (or a mobility scooter) when she steps ON to the pavement! Googling Furious cycling offence brings up some interesting legal links. |
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The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Alan Braggins wrote: In article , Tim Streater wrote: "Tim Downie" wrote: I think we should ensure that cyclists are not allowed to speed anywhere! They aren't, they are subject to the same speed limits as cars. As there is no legal requirement for bicycles to have speedometers cyclists cannot be charged with speeding. Wrong. There was a loony cyclist in Cambridge who got done. And quite right too - it's about expectations. He was done for "riding furiously", not for exceeding the speed limit, because not only does the speed limit not apply to cyclists, he wasn't exceeding it: http://www.camcycle.org.uk/newslette...article14.html This one caught my eye. http://news.scotsman.com/scotland/To...ing.3681474.jp 91mph for a cyclist? shirly shome mishtake :-) Read again, "in a car". This is more sobering.. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-sto...5875-20636756/ Not charged with speeding but for "cycling dangerously". Tim |
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Wader of Doom wrote:
Tim Streater wrote: [...] Where by "speeding" they mean doing "about 17mph", so however bad his behaviour was, it wasn't actually relevent to speed limits. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/b...ts/7496757.stm You're not a lawyer, by any chance, are you? Angels, meet Mr Pinhead. Furrfu, are these argumentative cyclists in *every* newsgroup? Every Cambridge and every uk transport one definitely. Some of them have strayed into Uk.d-i-y I really do wish they'd save it for urc or urcm. They're even infesting unnc and unn.mod now. Its the cycling that does it. Very bad for people with anger management problems. Makes em worse. Its also penis envy. That's why the saddles are the shape they are of course. |
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On 08/07/2010 01:24, Clot wrote:
Please find your humour gene. I recall that once you were helpful to me regarding glasses but most times you knock folk and have shown that you are completely virtuous! Killing cats! ARW found a highly suitable way to try to resolve a situation. I'm sure that even the police would have found the approach amusing. Were you perchance a civil servant that had "out of the box" attitudes drummed out of you? It sounds like it. I think we should ensure that cyclists are not allowed to speed anywhere! Was that last sentence written as bait? Cyclists can't be prosecuted for speeding. Dave |
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On 08/07/2010 12:22, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , Adrian wrote: Tim Streater gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: If I'm stooging along the motorway at 65, look in the mirror, and decide to overtake as the klod behind is a long way off, my expectation is that he will still be a long way behind after I've moved to the fast lane. I don't expect to find him up my exhaust because the **** was doing 110. If you're "looking", but not for long enough to gauge their rate of approach, then you're not looking properly. Isn't a drivers priority to expect other drivers to obey the rules? Looking back for long enough to determine the speed of cars behind approaching you is a lengthy job and there may well have been a big change in front of you. Rememeber, if you tail end a car, you are automaticaly responsible. Just as the speeding car would be if he tail ended you. There is that, but if their rate of approach is low you may have to look for too long. Umm, you'd be able to tell their rate of approach was slow enough not to be an issue, wouldn't you...? Normally yes, but if the clown is going really fast then he may not be that visible when you look. If your eyesight is so poor that you are unable to see somebody closing at a difference of 45mph (20 metres per second), then I wonder how you cope with pulling out of a side junction onto an NSL road? That is a totally different scenario. You are stopped and observing the cars that are approaching you. Sigh. Maths snipped If he's "not in sight", then he's not going to be right up on your arse THAT quickly, is he? He could have entered the motorway at that junction you just passed and only at the last minute got into the outside lane at 110 MPH Dave |
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dave gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying: Isn't a drivers priority to expect other drivers to obey the rules? Your driving instructor clearly failed to pass on one of the more important pieces of advice that mine (ex-Class 1 Police instructor) made sure I took in. Every other person on the road IS an incompetent lunatic and they ARE trying to kill you. Looking back for long enough to determine the speed of cars behind approaching you is a lengthy job Balls. Look in mirror, look forward again, look in mirror again - how much has their position changed? If your eyesight is so poor that you are unable to see somebody closing at a difference of 45mph (20 metres per second), then I wonder how you cope with pulling out of a side junction onto an NSL road? That is a totally different scenario. You are stopped and observing the cars that are approaching you. Fine. shrug You're doing 25mph. A car coming towards you is doing 25mph. Closing speed 50mph. Faster than Tim's scenario. If he's "not in sight", then he's not going to be right up on your arse THAT quickly, is he? He could have entered the motorway at that junction you just passed and only at the last minute got into the outside lane at 110 MPH He could have just parachuted straight into L3 from that passing transport plane, too. |
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On 8 July, 19:31, Adrian wrote:
dave gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: Isn't a drivers priority to expect other drivers to obey the rules? Your driving instructor clearly failed to pass on one of the more important pieces of advice that mine (ex-Class 1 Police instructor) made sure I took in. Every other person on the road IS an incompetent lunatic and they ARE trying to kill you. Looking back for long enough to determine the speed of cars behind approaching you is a lengthy job Balls. Look in mirror, look forward again, look in mirror again - how much has their position changed? If your eyesight is so poor that you are unable to see somebody closing at a difference of 45mph (20 metres per second), then I wonder how you cope with pulling out of a side junction onto an NSL road? That is a totally different scenario. You are stopped and observing the cars that are approaching you. Fine. shrug You're doing 25mph. A car coming towards you is doing 25mph. Closing speed 50mph. Faster than Tim's scenario. If he's "not in sight", then he's not going to be right up on your arse THAT quickly, is he? He could have entered the motorway at that junction you just passed and only at the last minute got into the outside lane at 110 MPH He could have just parachuted straight into L3 from that passing transport plane, too. with a tail wind he'd be doing more than 110 then.....;) Jim K |
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In message , "dennis@home"
writes "geoff" wrote in message ... In message , "dennis@home" writes "John Rumm" wrote in message ... Tell him it was all Dennis' idea - I am sure there are plenty here who will back you up! You do remember that this group is archived? FFS Dennis Are you really so humourless and stupid There is no humour in these posts, the fact that you think there is just shows that you are warped. As usual, your lack of comprehension lets you down I am referring to your lack of humour and stupidity In my years in uk.d-i-y I have never come across anyone so determined to prove what an idiot they are as you seem to be obsessed with doing I suppose that you never made anything of your life might part of the problem, and no longer being employed has put time on your hands, but that's no reason to inflict your deficiencies on others here -- geoff |
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"Adrian" wrote in message ... dave gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: Isn't a drivers priority to expect other drivers to obey the rules? Your driving instructor clearly failed to pass on one of the more important pieces of advice that mine (ex-Class 1 Police instructor) made sure I took in. That's odd, mine was too and he said the same. Every other person on the road IS an incompetent lunatic and they ARE trying to kill you. Of course once you start driving you soon realise he was telling the truth. |
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In message , The Natural Philosopher
writes Tim Streater wrote: In article , "Tim Downie" wrote: dennis@home wrote: "Clot" wrote in message I think we should ensure that cyclists are not allowed to speed anywhere! They aren't, they are subject to the same speed limits as cars. As there is no legal requirement for bicycles to have speedometers cyclists cannot be charged with speeding. Wrong. There was a loony cyclist in Cambridge who got done. And quite right too - it's about expectations. If I'm stooging along the motorway at 65, look in the mirror, and decide to overtake as the klod behind is a long way off, my expectation is that he will still be a long way behind after I've moved to the fast lane. I don't expect to find him up my exhaust because the **** was doing 110. Then you had better watch out in Germany. Where you're stuck behind some doddery **** doing maybe 120 on the autobahn , you're totally blocked in by traffic in the middle lane - you still get some fat arschloch in a big merc riding up your rear bumper flashing you to get out of the way I found that a good solid tow bar and good hand brake work wonders in this situation -- geoff |
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"geoff" wrote in message ... In message , "dennis@home" writes "geoff" wrote in message ... In message , "dennis@home" writes "John Rumm" wrote in message ... Tell him it was all Dennis' idea - I am sure there are plenty here who will back you up! You do remember that this group is archived? FFS Dennis Are you really so humourless and stupid There is no humour in these posts, the fact that you think there is just shows that you are warped. As usual, your lack of comprehension lets you down I am referring to your lack of humour and stupidity In my years in uk.d-i-y I have never come across anyone so determined to prove what an idiot they are as you seem to be obsessed with doing I suppose that you never made anything of your life might part of the problem, and no longer being employed has put time on your hands, but that's no reason to inflict your deficiencies on others here Still making stuff up I see. Is lying a habit to you? |
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In message , Tim
Streater writes In article , Adrian wrote: Tim Streater gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: If I'm stooging along the motorway at 65, look in the mirror, decide to overtake as the klod behind is a long way off, my expectation is that he will still be a long way behind after I've moved to the fast lane. I don't expect to find him up my exhaust because the **** was doing 110. If you're "looking", but not for long enough to gauge their rate approach, then you're not looking properly. There is that, but if their rate of approach is low you may have to look for too long. Umm, you'd be able to tell their rate of approach was slow enough not to be an issue, wouldn't you...? Normally yes, but if the clown is going really fast then he may not be that visible when you look. And then I'd rather focus on the lorry I'm overtaking, thanks. What's this "rather" ? You really should have a feeling for all your surroundings. I don't think - oh there's a lorry, I'd better concentrate on that, it's "lorry ahead, car closing from behind, taxi coming the other way, crossroad approaching. And it should all be subconscious -- geoff |
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writes In article , The Natural Philosopher wrote: This one caught my eye. http://news.scotsman.com/scotland/To...ing.3681474.jp 91mph for a cyclist? shirly shome mishtake :-) Yes, the 200m record is only 82.33mph: http://www.ihpva.org/hpvarec3.htm#nom01 This is more sobering.. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-sto...-as-speeding-c yclist-jason-howard-is-fined-2-200-for-killing-teenager-115875-20636756/ Where by "speeding" they mean doing "about 17mph", so however bad his behaviour was, it wasn't actually relevent to speed limits. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/b...ts/7496757.stm Does somebody want to do the maths on this article ? -- geoff |
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"dennis@home" wrote in message ... "Clot" wrote in message news:6V8Zn.85266$9c1.822@hurricane... dennis@home wrote: "geoff" wrote in message ... In message , "dennis@home" writes "John Rumm" wrote in message ... Tell him it was all Dennis' idea - I am sure there are plenty here who will back you up! You do remember that this group is archived? FFS Dennis Are you really so humourless and stupid There is no humour in these posts, the fact that you think there is just shows that you are warped. Please find your humour gene. I recall that once you were helpful to me regarding glasses but most times you knock folk and have shown that you are completely virtuous! Killing cats! I don't kill cats, I grow flowers. You may notice that the web site I posted is a cat lovers site and gave details of the symptoms and advised on what to do if the cat has them. What others choose to do with that information is up to them. ARW found a highly suitable way to try to resolve a situation. I'm sure that even the police would have found the approach amusing. If you are so sure go and tell them so they can enjoy the joke. Tell the victim too so he can have a good laugh. Its only a joke because it isn't being done to you. Harassing neighbours will never be a joke. People that think its a joke need treatment. ARW doesn't have the balls to go talk to him all he thinks about is how can I get even. Even in his warped judgement I add. Were you perchance a civil servant that had "out of the box" attitudes drummed out of you? It sounds like it. Wrong again, I just don't like bullies like ARW. Yes, sneaking about harassing people anonymously is bullying. Its not being funny even if the neighbour actually did what ARW said. I wouldn't trust what he said in the first place, there are always two sides to a story and you are a clot for thinking there isn't. It was funny. And the two neighbours that were in on it also thought so. I would have prefered it if had he not parked infront of a driveway blocking me in and that he had not called me a ****. Adam |
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On 8 July, 20:35, "ARWadsworth"
wrote: "dennis@home" wrote in message ... "Clot" wrote in message news:6V8Zn.85266$9c1.822@hurricane... dennis@home wrote: "geoff" wrote in message ... In message , "dennis@home" writes "John Rumm" wrote in message ... Tell him it was all Dennis' idea - I am sure there are plenty here who will back you up! You do remember that this group is archived? FFS Dennis Are you really so humourless and stupid There is no humour in these posts, the fact that you think there is just shows that you are warped. Please find your humour gene. I recall that once you were helpful to me regarding glasses but most times you knock folk and have shown that you are completely virtuous! Killing cats! I don't kill cats, I grow flowers. You may notice that the web site I posted is a cat lovers site and gave details of the symptoms and advised on what to do if the cat has them. What others choose to do with that information is up to them. ARW found a highly suitable way to try to resolve a situation. I'm sure that even the police would have found the approach amusing. If you are so sure go and tell them so they can enjoy the joke. Tell the victim too so he can have a good laugh. Its only a joke because it isn't being done to you. Harassing neighbours will never be a joke. People that think its a joke need treatment. ARW doesn't have the balls to go talk to him all he thinks about is how can I get even. Even in his warped judgement I add. Were you perchance a civil servant that had "out of the box" attitudes drummed out of you? It sounds like it. Wrong again, I just don't like bullies like ARW. Yes, sneaking about harassing people anonymously is bullying. Its not being funny even if the neighbour actually did what ARW said. I wouldn't trust what he said in the first place, there are always two sides to a story and you are a clot for thinking there isn't. It was funny. And the two neighbours that were in on it also thought so. I would have prefered it if had he not parked infront of a driveway blocking me in and that he had not called me a ****. Adam move on Adam, let the spiders and the dustmites deal with this - your work here is done ;))) Cheers Jim K |
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"dennis@home" gurgled happily, sounding
much like they were saying: Isn't a drivers priority to expect other drivers to obey the rules? Your driving instructor clearly failed to pass on one of the more important pieces of advice that mine (ex-Class 1 Police instructor) made sure I took in. That's odd, mine was too and he said the same. Wasn't Bob H, in Bakewell, was it? Every other person on the road IS an incompetent lunatic and they ARE trying to kill you. Of course once you start driving you soon realise he was telling the truth. Breaking you in gently, if anything. |
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writes "geoff" wrote in message ... In message , "dennis@home" writes "geoff" wrote in message ... In message , "dennis@home" writes "John Rumm" wrote in message ... Tell him it was all Dennis' idea - I am sure there are plenty here who will back you up! You do remember that this group is archived? FFS Dennis Are you really so humourless and stupid There is no humour in these posts, the fact that you think there is just shows that you are warped. As usual, your lack of comprehension lets you down I am referring to your lack of humour and stupidity In my years in uk.d-i-y I have never come across anyone so determined to prove what an idiot they are as you seem to be obsessed with doing I suppose that you never made anything of your life might part of the problem, and no longer being employed has put time on your hands, but that's no reason to inflict your deficiencies on others here Still making stuff up I see. Is lying a habit to you? Making what up ? -- geoff |
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"Adrian" wrote in message ... "dennis@home" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: Isn't a drivers priority to expect other drivers to obey the rules? Your driving instructor clearly failed to pass on one of the more important pieces of advice that mine (ex-Class 1 Police instructor) made sure I took in. That's odd, mine was too and he said the same. Wasn't Bob H, in Bakewell, was it? Not that I recall, it was a long time ago. Every other person on the road IS an incompetent lunatic and they ARE trying to kill you. Of course once you start driving you soon realise he was telling the truth. Breaking you in gently, if anything. He also said that passing your test doesn't mean you can drive, just that you can go and learn by yourself. Its a shame so many don't learn anything later. I think compulsory re-tests every 5 years would be a good idea to sort out the drivers that don't improve. |
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In message , "dennis@home"
writes "Adrian" wrote in message ... "dennis@home" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: Isn't a drivers priority to expect other drivers to obey the rules? Your driving instructor clearly failed to pass on one of the more important pieces of advice that mine (ex-Class 1 Police instructor) made sure I took in. That's odd, mine was too and he said the same. Wasn't Bob H, in Bakewell, was it? Not that I recall, it was a long time ago. Every other person on the road IS an incompetent lunatic and they ARE trying to kill you. Of course once you start driving you soon realise he was telling the truth. Breaking you in gently, if anything. He also said that passing your test doesn't mean you can drive, just that you can go and learn by yourself. Its a shame so many don't learn anything later. I think compulsory re-tests every 5 years would be a good idea to sort out the drivers that don't improve. And how are you going to achieve that braniac ? they can't even cope with the first timers and if you hadn't noticed, money is short in the public sector, cutbacks and redundancies are being made across the public sector **** me you're a retard Mind you, if it got you off the road it would be worth it -- geoff |
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dave wrote:
Isn't a drivers priority to expect other drivers to obey the rules? No a dr8ivers priority is to exept the unexpected and assume that th eclot who is indicatng to pull into teh side raod you are waiting to leave is - actually turning into te drive just past it - is a dozy **** who has had his indicator on for the last 20 miles - is on a scam trying to get you to have an accident with him. |
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geoff wrote:
In message , "dennis@home" There is no humour in these posts, the fact that you think there is just shows that you are warped. In my years in uk.d-i-y I have never come across anyone so determined to prove what an idiot they are as you seem to be obsessed with doing Good grief! most groups have at least one resident idiot. This group has two. |
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Adrian saying something like: Your driving instructor clearly failed to pass on one of the more important pieces of advice that mine (ex-Class 1 Police instructor) made sure I took in. Beware of smug old gits sticking rigidly to the limits? |
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember The Natural Philosopher saying something like: This is more sobering.. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-sto...5875-20636756/ "Judge Terence English, in Aylesbury, Bucks, blasted Howard's "devil may care" riding but said there was no death by dangerous cycling." What? The arsehole was on the pavement, which is, in and of itself inherently hazardous to pedestrians, and is a deliberate act, not just a chance thing. |
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In message , The Natural Philosopher
writes geoff wrote: In message , "dennis@home" There is no humour in these posts, the fact that you think there is just shows that you are warped. In my years in uk.d-i-y I have never come across anyone so determined to prove what an idiot they are as you seem to be obsessed with doing Good grief! most groups have at least one resident idiot. This group has two. Who, me or dennis ? (I assume drivel is the other one) -- geoff |
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember (Alan Braggins) saying something like: Where by "speeding" they mean doing "about 17mph", so however bad his behaviour was, it wasn't actually relevent to speed limits. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/b...ts/7496757.stm Futher down that page, relating to another incident... "Cynthia Barlow, chairwoman of safety charity RoadPeace, thinks it is drivers who need to alter their habits to protect the growing band of cyclists across Britain. Her daughter Alex McVitty, 26, was killed in 2000 when a turning lorry struck her bike in the City of London. "The biggest problem involving the interaction between cyclists and heavy goods vehicles is when the cyclist is going straight on and the lorry is turning left," Mrs Barlow said." She's still banging on about it, apparently oblivious to the fact her daughter was somewhere she shouldn't have been and lacked the basic observational skills to survive in city traffic. She's so far up De Nile she's in ficking Khartoum. |
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"geoff" wrote in message ... And how are you going to achieve that braniac ? You pay, like you do now, braniac. they can't even cope with the first timers and if you hadn't noticed, money is short in the public sector, cutbacks and redundancies are being made across the public sector **** me you're a retard Mind you, if it got you off the road it would be worth it Well I expect it will get you off the road. That's why I want lots of average speed cameras, just to get you off the road. |
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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... dave wrote: Isn't a drivers priority to expect other drivers to obey the rules? No a dr8ivers priority is to exept the unexpected and assume that th eclot who is indicatng to pull into teh side raod you are waiting to leave is - actually turning into te drive just past it 95% of the drivers indicating to turn into the road I use every day drive past and turn up the next road 50 m on. They just don't appear to think the road is there even when there are cars waiting to turn right. - is a dozy **** who has had his indicator on for the last 20 miles No, they start indicating about 40 m before, you can watch them. - is on a scam trying to get you to have an accident with him. |
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Grimly Curmudgeon gurgled happily,
sounding much like they were saying: Your driving instructor clearly failed to pass on one of the more important pieces of advice that mine (ex-Class 1 Police instructor) made sure I took in. Beware of smug old gits sticking rigidly to the limits? 2mph above them, because it gives him a little frisson of naughtiness? Fortunately, they're not all like that particular one... |
OT Cheeky Bastard Pt2 - Latest News
"dennis@home" gurgled happily, sounding
much like they were saying: Every other person on the road IS an incompetent lunatic and they ARE trying to kill you. Of course once you start driving you soon realise he was telling the truth. Breaking you in gently, if anything. He also said that passing your test doesn't mean you can drive, just that you can go and learn by yourself. Its a shame so many don't learn anything later. I think compulsory re-tests every 5 years would be a good idea to sort out the drivers that don't improve. Too many regard the driving test and MOT as the same thing - a high-water mark rather than a bare minimum. |
OT Cheeky Bastard Pt2 - Latest News
"dennis@home" gurgled happily, sounding
much like they were saying: Well I expect it will get you off the road. That's why I want lots of average speed cameras, just to get you off the road. phew I can stop agreeing with you now. |
OT Cheeky Bastard Pt2 - Latest News
Grimly Curmudgeon gurgled happily,
sounding much like they were saying: Futher down that page, relating to another incident... "Cynthia Barlow, chairwoman of safety charity RoadPeace, thinks it is drivers who need to alter their habits to protect the growing band of cyclists across Britain. Her daughter Alex McVitty, 26, was killed in 2000 when a turning lorry struck her bike in the City of London. "The biggest problem involving the interaction between cyclists and heavy goods vehicles is when the cyclist is going straight on and the lorry is turning left," Mrs Barlow said." She's still banging on about it, apparently oblivious to the fact her daughter was somewhere she shouldn't have been and lacked the basic observational skills to survive in city traffic. She's so far up De Nile she's in ficking Khartoum. She's right, though - it's the drivers who need to alter their habits. More specifically, truck drivers need to stop turning left, the reckless *******s. It achieves nothing that three right turns won't achieve, much more safely. |
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