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Newshound June 17th 10 09:59 PM

Help identifying wheel (slightly OT)
 
Just bought a horse trailer which has come without a spare wheel. It's an
old Ward, i.e. not one of the big names or I would be able to check with the
manufacturers.

The wheels on it are labelled

MEFRO 43554101

ET39

5 1/2J x 14 H2

It's running on 6 ply195R14C's which look like a reasonably common light
commercial tyre (850 kg per tyre @ 450 kPa).

I'm wondering if the previous owner didn't have a spare because they are
compatible with a Landy or other tow vehicle. Can anyone suggest where I
might find a reasonable priced spare? A quick google didn't provide any
obvious answers.

TIA

Steve


Adrian June 17th 10 10:04 PM

Help identifying wheel (slightly OT)
 
"newshound" gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:

ET39

5 1/2J x 14 H2


Only other thing you need to know is the PCD - measure between two
opposite holes if it's four stud. If it's five, measure between two
adjacent and multiply by 1.7

Newshound June 17th 10 10:12 PM

Help identifying wheel (slightly OT)
 


"Adrian" wrote in message
...
"newshound" gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:

ET39

5 1/2J x 14 H2


Only other thing you need to know is the PCD - measure between two
opposite holes if it's four stud. If it's five, measure between two
adjacent and multiply by 1.7


Thanks, havn't had a chance to measure that yet (it is 5 stud). I wondered
whether ET 39 might define this.


Bruce[_8_] June 17th 10 10:13 PM

Help identifying wheel (slightly OT)
 
On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 21:59:50 +0100, "newshound"
wrote:
Just bought a horse trailer which has come without a spare wheel. It's an
old Ward, i.e. not one of the big names or I would be able to check with the
manufacturers.

The wheels on it are labelled

MEFRO 43554101

ET39

5 1/2J x 14 H2

It's running on 6 ply195R14C's which look like a reasonably common light
commercial tyre (850 kg per tyre @ 450 kPa).

I'm wondering if the previous owner didn't have a spare because they are
compatible with a Landy or other tow vehicle. Can anyone suggest where I
might find a reasonable priced spare? A quick google didn't provide any
obvious answers.



You are missing some key information about the wheel. How many studs
does it have, what diameter are they (typically M12 using a 17mm
socket for the nut or bolt, or M14 using a 19mm) and what is the PCD
(pitch circle diameter) of the wheel fixings?


Adrian June 17th 10 10:29 PM

Help identifying wheel (slightly OT)
 
"newshound" gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:

Thanks, havn't had a chance to measure that yet (it is 5 stud). I
wondered whether ET 39 might define this.


No, that's the offset - the distance between mounting face and centre
line in mm.

Thinking about it, you'll also want to measure the diameter of the centre
hole, since that actually centralises the wheel on the hub. As well as
the diameter of the studs (as mentioned by Bruce), what's the seat angle
of the bolts? You can get around that last one by going for a full set of
five with appropriate bolts/nuts, or by just keeping a spare set of 'em
handy if they're different...

14" 5-stud isn't a common combo, though - I suspect you're looking at
something trailer-specific.

Wild guess...
http://www.towsure.com/product/2948-...nd_Tyre_Silver

Bruce[_8_] June 17th 10 10:49 PM

Help identifying wheel (slightly OT)
 
On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 22:12:10 +0100, "newshound"
wrote:



"Adrian" wrote in message
...
"newshound" gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:

ET39

5 1/2J x 14 H2


Only other thing you need to know is the PCD - measure between two
opposite holes if it's four stud. If it's five, measure between two
adjacent and multiply by 1.7


Thanks, havn't had a chance to measure that yet (it is 5 stud). I wondered
whether ET 39 might define this.



ET39 denotes an offset. The offset between the centreline of the
wheel rim and the mating face of the wheel (to the hub) is 39mm.

You still need the bolt diameter and PCD (pitch circle diameter).


freepo June 17th 10 11:06 PM

Help identifying wheel (slightly OT)
 
On 17 June, 21:59, "newshound" wrote:
Just bought a horse trailer which has come without a spare wheel. It's an
old Ward, i.e. not one of the big names or I would be able to check with the
manufacturers.

The wheels on it are labelled

MEFRO 43554101

ET39

5 1/2J x 14 H2

It's running on 6 ply195R14C's which look like a reasonably common light
commercial tyre (850 kg per tyre @ 450 kPa).

I'm wondering if the previous owner didn't have a spare because they are
compatible with a Landy or other tow vehicle. Can anyone suggest where I
might find a reasonable priced spare? A quick google didn't provide any
obvious answers.

TIA

Steve


Have a look in a scrap yard at their range of wheels, One near me in
Cardiff has about 100 - 150 wheels on a huge display rack. You might
get lucky.

You'll need an accurate measurement of the hub diameter for example I
have Vaux wheels with a hub diameter of about 56mm but I have also got
some mitsubishi/daewoo wheels with a hub dia of 55mm if it wasn't for
the hub diameter being too small by 1mm these wheels would fit my
Vaux it's rather irritating.

Dave Plowman (News) June 17th 10 11:23 PM

Help identifying wheel (slightly OT)
 
In article ,
Adrian wrote:
14" 5-stud isn't a common combo, though - I suspect you're looking at
something trailer-specific.


I was thinking that. But would they go to the bother of having special
wheels made?

The Rover P6/SD1 has 5 stud 14". Dunno the offset. The size of the centre
hole might help identify it.

--
*I'm not your type. I'm not inflatable.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Mrcheerful June 18th 10 07:34 AM

Help identifying wheel (slightly OT)
 
newshound wrote:
Just bought a horse trailer which has come without a spare wheel.
It's an old Ward, i.e. not one of the big names or I would be able to
check with the manufacturers.

The wheels on it are labelled

MEFRO 43554101

ET39

5 1/2J x 14 H2

It's running on 6 ply195R14C's which look like a reasonably common
light commercial tyre (850 kg per tyre @ 450 kPa).

I'm wondering if the previous owner didn't have a spare because they
are compatible with a Landy or other tow vehicle. Can anyone suggest
where I might find a reasonable priced spare? A quick google didn't
provide any obvious answers.

TIA

Steve


that sounds like trailer specific wheels: I came across them on a portable
office from British Rail. I have a trailer with horsebox wheels which is
the same centre arrangement but 15 inch, I then found that Commer van wheels
would also fit (15inch?). Somewhere like Indespension would probably have
them.



Mrcheerful June 18th 10 08:27 AM

Help identifying wheel (slightly OT)
 
Mrcheerful wrote:
newshound wrote:
Just bought a horse trailer which has come without a spare wheel.
It's an old Ward, i.e. not one of the big names or I would be able to
check with the manufacturers.

The wheels on it are labelled

MEFRO 43554101

ET39

5 1/2J x 14 H2

It's running on 6 ply195R14C's which look like a reasonably common
light commercial tyre (850 kg per tyre @ 450 kPa).

I'm wondering if the previous owner didn't have a spare because they
are compatible with a Landy or other tow vehicle. Can anyone suggest
where I might find a reasonable priced spare? A quick google didn't
provide any obvious answers.

TIA

Steve


that sounds like trailer specific wheels: I came across them on a
portable office from British Rail. I have a trailer with horsebox
wheels which is the same centre arrangement but 15 inch, I then found
that Commer van wheels would also fit (15inch?). Somewhere like
Indespension would probably have them.


or were they CF bedford? CF wheels are 14 inch and 5 stud. I have some
here if you want me to double check any dimensions, there should be plenty
of those in breakers/ebay.



Bruce[_8_] June 18th 10 10:25 AM

Help identifying wheel (slightly OT)
 
On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 07:34:52 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
wrote:
newshound wrote:
Just bought a horse trailer which has come without a spare wheel.
It's an old Ward, i.e. not one of the big names or I would be able to
check with the manufacturers.

The wheels on it are labelled

MEFRO 43554101

ET39

5 1/2J x 14 H2

It's running on 6 ply195R14C's which look like a reasonably common
light commercial tyre (850 kg per tyre @ 450 kPa).

I'm wondering if the previous owner didn't have a spare because they
are compatible with a Landy or other tow vehicle. Can anyone suggest
where I might find a reasonable priced spare? A quick google didn't
provide any obvious answers.

TIA

Steve


that sounds like trailer specific wheels:



Nonsense. The same size (diameter, width, tyre) was used on VW T3
Transporters and Caravelles between 1979 and 1991.

The question is, what is the bolt diameter and PCD?

The VW wheels referred to were 5 M14 studs on a 112mm PCD.


Mrcheerful June 18th 10 10:31 AM

Help identifying wheel (slightly OT)
 
Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 07:34:52 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
wrote:
newshound wrote:
Just bought a horse trailer which has come without a spare wheel.
It's an old Ward, i.e. not one of the big names or I would be able
to check with the manufacturers.

The wheels on it are labelled

MEFRO 43554101

ET39

5 1/2J x 14 H2

It's running on 6 ply195R14C's which look like a reasonably common
light commercial tyre (850 kg per tyre @ 450 kPa).

I'm wondering if the previous owner didn't have a spare because they
are compatible with a Landy or other tow vehicle. Can anyone suggest
where I might find a reasonable priced spare? A quick google didn't
provide any obvious answers.

TIA

Steve


that sounds like trailer specific wheels:



Nonsense. The same size (diameter, width, tyre) was used on VW T3
Transporters and Caravelles between 1979 and 1991.

The question is, what is the bolt diameter and PCD?

The VW wheels referred to were 5 M14 studs on a 112mm PCD.


mefro wheels are in germany. the tech spec shet is he
http://www.mefro-raederwerk.de/filea...euterungen.pdf
includes english



Bruce[_8_] June 18th 10 11:04 AM

Help identifying wheel (slightly OT)
 
On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 10:31:58 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
wrote:

mefro wheels are in germany. the tech spec shet is he
http://www.mefro-raederwerk.de/filea...euterungen.pdf
includes english



Good detective work, Watson! ;-)


Newshound June 18th 10 07:29 PM

Help identifying wheel (slightly OT)
 


"Bruce" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 10:31:58 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
wrote:

mefro wheels are in germany. the tech spec shet is he
http://www.mefro-raederwerk.de/filea...euterungen.pdf
includes english



Good detective work, Watson! ;-)

Thanks to all for the useful steers, especially the data sheet. I'll be
checking the brakes in the next few days so that will give me a chance to
make the various measurements. I suspect that it is a trailer specific wheel
because the central part has a relatively wide flat area, unlike most
car/lorry/van wheels.


Andy Champ[_2_] June 18th 10 07:49 PM

Help identifying wheel (slightly OT)
 
Adrian wrote:

Thinking about it, you'll also want to measure the diameter of the centre
hole, since that actually centralises the wheel on the hub.


Not always. Some are lug-centric.

Andy


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