Reasonable or not - Fence install?
 

We paid a professional fencing contractor to put some concrete fence
posts, concrete kick panels and 6' panels in. As you might expect
working up to another long ago done similar fence at right angles to
the new one - the panels did not quite work out at full panels, there
was an 18" gap to be filled. This was quoted for as a separate job to
the rest, at £65 for a part panel to be put in.

The part panel has been just pushed in, with no fixing to the already
fixed post which has no socket on its face and no concrete kick board,
just sat on the bare ground to rot. Fair enough I suppose if they had
thrown it in for nothing, but probably not if you are paying £65 for
the job to be done properly. What does the panel think, before I start
growling down the phone?

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Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

Reasonable or not - Fence install?
 

Harry Bloomfield wrote:
We paid a professional fencing contractor to put some concrete fence
posts, concrete kick panels and 6' panels in. As you might expect
working up to another long ago done similar fence at right angles to
the new one - the panels did not quite work out at full panels, there
was an 18" gap to be filled. This was quoted for as a separate job to
the rest, at £65 for a part panel to be put in.

The part panel has been just pushed in, with no fixing to the already
fixed post which has no socket on its face and no concrete kick board,
just sat on the bare ground to rot. Fair enough I suppose if they had
thrown it in for nothing, but probably not if you are paying £65 for
the job to be done properly. What does the panel think, before I start
growling down the phone?

Harry,

To me it would be a no-brainer. The contractor quoted for the job
(presumably) stating what would be involved to complete the job to match in
with the other works - ergo, that has not happened and I personally would be
on the telephone politely telling him that there was a problem with his
work, question his reasons for doing the job that way, and if there was no
valid reason for that, asking to return and rectify the problem.


Cash

Reasonable or not - Fence install?
 

"Harry Bloomfield" wrote in message
. uk...
We paid a professional fencing contractor to put some concrete fence
posts, concrete kick panels and 6' panels in. As you might expect working
up to another long ago done similar fence at right angles to the new one -
the panels did not quite work out at full panels, there was an 18" gap to
be filled. This was quoted for as a separate job to the rest, at £65 for a
part panel to be put in.

The part panel has been just pushed in, with no fixing to the already
fixed post which has no socket on its face and no concrete kick board,
just sat on the bare ground to rot. Fair enough I suppose if they had
thrown it in for nothing, but probably not if you are paying £65 for the
job to be done properly. What does the panel think, before I start
growling down the phone?

--
Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

Complain now, or borrow my cement mixer if you want to DIY the bodge job.

Adam

Reasonable or not - Fence install?
 

On Wed, 12 May 2010 19:35:06 +0100, ARWadsworth wrote:

Complain now, or borrow my cement mixer if you want to DIY the bodge
job.

Being you, Adam, I thought 'cement mixer' and then 'contractor' and
'concrete overcoat'!!

Sorry... .-)

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Reasonable or not - Fence install?
 

"Bob Eager" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 12 May 2010 19:35:06 +0100, ARWadsworth wrote:

Complain now, or borrow my cement mixer if you want to DIY the bodge
job.

Being you, Adam, I thought 'cement mixer' and then 'contractor' and
'concrete overcoat'!!

Sorry... .-)

No need to be sorry. All that is buried under my patio is an old Vauxhall
Carlton:-)

Adam

Reasonable or not - Fence install?
 

Harry Bloomfield wrote:
We paid a professional fencing contractor to put some concrete fence
posts, concrete kick panels and 6' panels in. As you might expect
working up to another long ago done similar fence at right angles to
the new one - the panels did not quite work out at full panels, there
was an 18" gap to be filled. This was quoted for as a separate job to
the rest, at £65 for a part panel to be put in.

The part panel has been just pushed in, with no fixing to the already
fixed post which has no socket on its face and no concrete kick board,
just sat on the bare ground to rot. Fair enough I suppose if they had
thrown it in for nothing, but probably not if you are paying £65 for
the job to be done properly. What does the panel think, before I start
growling down the phone?

If I come across this situation I raid the 'damaged panels' corner of my
supplier & find a panel where I can cut out the piece I need. Get them for
half price. You would need to buy a complete gravel board, so £25 max for
the materials, leaves him £40 for the labour. No more than an hour to cut
the gravel board & screw a batten onto the concrete post.

He isn't going to be out of pocket if he does this properly & he should.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

Reasonable or not - Fence install?
 

The Medway Handyman submitted this idea :
Harry Bloomfield wrote:
We paid a professional fencing contractor to put some concrete fence
posts, concrete kick panels and 6' panels in. As you might expect
working up to another long ago done similar fence at right angles to
the new one - the panels did not quite work out at full panels, there
was an 18" gap to be filled. This was quoted for as a separate job to
the rest, at £65 for a part panel to be put in.

The part panel has been just pushed in, with no fixing to the already
fixed post which has no socket on its face and no concrete kick board,
just sat on the bare ground to rot. Fair enough I suppose if they had
thrown it in for nothing, but probably not if you are paying £65 for
the job to be done properly. What does the panel think, before I start
growling down the phone?

If I come across this situation I raid the 'damaged panels' corner of my
supplier & find a panel where I can cut out the piece I need. Get them for
half price. You would need to buy a complete gravel board, so £25 max for
the materials, leaves him £40 for the labour. No more than an hour to cut
the gravel board & screw a batten onto the concrete post.

He isn't going to be out of pocket if he does this properly & he should.

I would have thought cutting down to size would be a regular thing for
them to need to do, so they would have odd bits to do it with anyway.
You could manage 4x 18" fill-ins from a full 6' wide set.

Thanks for the replies - I'll be on the phone in the morning. What
really miffed me, was that I spent a weekend clearing the fence line of
stumps, over hanging branches, old fence posts and roots in the way of
the new posts. Basically the job could not have been made easier for
them.

I would think a back to back pair of U brackets would be the obvious
way to fix a panel to a post lacking a slot, rather than trying to
drill a reinforced concrete post?

--
Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

Reasonable or not - Fence install?
 

On May 13, 5:19 am, Harry Bloomfield
wrote:
We paid a professional fencing contractor to put some concrete fence
posts, concrete kick panels and 6' panels in. As you might expect
working up to another long ago done similar fence at right angles to
the new one - the panels did not quite work out at full panels, there
was an 18" gap to be filled.

If the fence is at the front of the property I always make the panels
all of equal width. For pickets I use a calculator to space the
pickets evenly between posts to avoid that extra-big or extra-small
gap at one end.
I'll bet nobody else does this :)

Reasonable or not - Fence install?
 

Matty F was thinking very hard :
On May 13, 5:19 am, Harry Bloomfield
wrote:
We paid a professional fencing contractor to put some concrete fence
posts, concrete kick panels and 6' panels in. As you might expect
working up to another long ago done similar fence at right angles to
the new one - the panels did not quite work out at full panels, there
was an 18" gap to be filled.

If the fence is at the front of the property I always make the panels
all of equal width. For pickets I use a calculator to space the
pickets evenly between posts to avoid that extra-big or extra-small
gap at one end.
I'll bet nobody else does this :)

There were no aesthetic concerns, the odd panel was to fit right at the
far end, at the rear.

--
Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

Reasonable or not - Fence install?
 

In article ,
writes:

With panels and concrete posts it's best to use standard sizes to simplify
replacement. The posts should outlast the panels at least twice. New panels
can be slid in easily.

I watched someone down the road trying to do it in a slightly gusty breeze.
I wish I'd had a camera phone at the time...

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Andrew Gabriel
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