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Arthur 51[_3_] March 12th 10 06:30 PM

Coin Operated Gas Meters
 
Hiall.
Had a call from my brother and he needs a single Coin op gas metter.
Are these still available?
Or have the EU banned them?

Thanks.

Arthur



James Salisbury[_3_] March 12th 10 08:08 PM

Coin Operated Gas Meters
 
Arthur 51 wrote:
Hiall.
Had a call from my brother and he needs a single Coin op gas metter.
Are these still available?
Or have the EU banned them?

Thanks.

Arthur


Hi,
Try http://www.bes.co.uk/products/031.asp

James

Andrew Gabriel March 13th 10 12:15 AM

Coin Operated Gas Meters
 
In article ,
"Arthur 51" writes:
Hiall.
Had a call from my brother and he needs a single Coin op gas metter.
Are these still available?
Or have the EU banned them?


Bare in mind it's illegal to resell gas for more than you paid for
it unless you're a licenced gas supplier (UK law, not EU law).
This was mainly to stop landlords profiting from energy supply to
their tennents.

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

Andrew Gabriel March 13th 10 02:47 PM

Coin Operated Gas Meters
 
In article ,
John Rumm writes:
Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
"Arthur 51" writes:
Hiall.
Had a call from my brother and he needs a single Coin op gas metter.
Are these still available?
Or have the EU banned them?


Bare in mind it's illegal to resell gas for more than you paid for
it unless you're a licenced gas supplier (UK law, not EU law).
This was mainly to stop landlords profiting from energy supply to
their tennents.


Is the same true of electricity out of interest?


Yes, although it came in later for electricity.

Full details:
http://www.ofgem.gov.uk/Consumers/Do...pdateoct05.pdf

Also note the VAT rate which can be passed on is fixed at 5%,
regardless of how much VAT you paid on the fuel originally.
So if you resell gas from commercial premises where you buy
it at a VAT rate of 17.5%, then you will have to sell the gas
for less than it costs you.

You can also split the standing charges at a pro-rata rate
between all the users.

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

fred March 13th 10 07:02 PM

Coin Operated Gas Meters
 
In article , Andrew Gabriel
writes
In article ,
John Rumm writes:
Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
"Arthur 51" writes:
Hiall.
Had a call from my brother and he needs a single Coin op gas metter.
Are these still available?
Or have the EU banned them?

Bare in mind it's illegal to resell gas for more than you paid for
it unless you're a licenced gas supplier (UK law, not EU law).
This was mainly to stop landlords profiting from energy supply to
their tennents.


Is the same true of electricity out of interest?


Yes, although it came in later for electricity.

Full details:
http://www.ofgem.gov.uk/Consumers/Do...pdateoct05.pdf

Also note the VAT rate which can be passed on is fixed at 5%,
regardless of how much VAT you paid on the fuel originally.
So if you resell gas from commercial premises where you buy
it at a VAT rate of 17.5%, then you will have to sell the gas
for less than it costs you.

You can also split the standing charges at a pro-rata rate
between all the users.

You had me worried there for a minute as my business supplier has been
charging me 5% VAT since day one but I see that business users of small
quantities of gas & elec have their supplies rated at 5% too, the limit
is 4,397kWhr/mth gas, lower for elec at only 1,000kWhr/mth. (VAT Notice
701/19).
--
fred
BBC3, ITV2/3/4, channels going to the DOGs

Andrew Gabriel March 13th 10 08:32 PM

Coin Operated Gas Meters
 
In article ,
fred writes:
In article , Andrew Gabriel
writes
In article ,
John Rumm writes:
Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
"Arthur 51" writes:
Hiall.
Had a call from my brother and he needs a single Coin op gas metter.
Are these still available?
Or have the EU banned them?

Bare in mind it's illegal to resell gas for more than you paid for
it unless you're a licenced gas supplier (UK law, not EU law).
This was mainly to stop landlords profiting from energy supply to
their tennents.

Is the same true of electricity out of interest?


Yes, although it came in later for electricity.

Full details:
http://www.ofgem.gov.uk/Consumers/Do...pdateoct05.pdf

Also note the VAT rate which can be passed on is fixed at 5%,
regardless of how much VAT you paid on the fuel originally.
So if you resell gas from commercial premises where you buy
it at a VAT rate of 17.5%, then you will have to sell the gas
for less than it costs you.

You can also split the standing charges at a pro-rata rate
between all the users.

You had me worried there for a minute as my business supplier has been
charging me 5% VAT since day one but I see that business users of small
quantities of gas & elec have their supplies rated at 5% too, the limit
is 4,397kWhr/mth gas, lower for elec at only 1,000kWhr/mth. (VAT Notice
701/19).


Oh sorry. Didn't know there was a VAT break for small commercial users.

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

Arthur51 March 14th 10 07:03 PM

Coin Operated Gas Meters
 

"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Arthur 51" writes:
Hiall.
Had a call from my brother and he needs a single Coin op gas metter.
Are these still available?
Or have the EU banned them?


Bare in mind it's illegal to resell gas for more than you paid for
it unless you're a licenced gas supplier (UK law, not EU law).
This was mainly to stop landlords profiting from energy supply to
their tennents.

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]


Hi.
My brother works for a developer so I don't know if his gaffer is a crook.

Arthur




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