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Bob Minchin[_4_] March 4th 10 06:20 PM

1/4 turn ceramic tap inserts
 
I have had these in our bathroom for a few years and the hot tap is
dripping. This tap only has about 2m head from the tank and I wonder if
these taps need greater pressure to seal properly. The cold tap is
working at mains pressure and is giving no trouble.

Anyone know?

TIA

Bob

JimK[_2_] March 4th 10 06:33 PM

1/4 turn ceramic tap inserts
 
On 4 Mar, 18:20, Bob Minchin
wrote:
I have had these in our bathroom for a few years and the hot tap is
dripping. This tap only has about 2m head from the tank and I wonder if
these taps need greater pressure to seal properly. The cold tap is
working at mains pressure and is giving no trouble.

Anyone know?

TIA

Bob


ours were (until recently) at a similar differential - no drips -
maybe scale?

Cheers
JimK

The Medway Handyman[_2_] March 4th 10 06:59 PM

1/4 turn ceramic tap inserts
 
Bob Minchin wrote:
I have had these in our bathroom for a few years and the hot tap is
dripping. This tap only has about 2m head from the tank and I wonder
if these taps need greater pressure to seal properly. The cold tap is
working at mains pressure and is giving no trouble.

Anyone know?


I've replaced lots of ceramic cartridges that were only a few years old.
Spawn of Satan IMO.

Could be limescale, take then out & soak in descaler for a while - worth a
try


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk



John March 4th 10 11:23 PM

1/4 turn ceramic tap inserts
 

I've replaced lots of ceramic cartridges that were only a few years old.
Spawn of Satan IMO.



Is the Medway Handyman unable to adapt to modern devices?

Does use a fall back line with his customers to blame his failures on modern
technology?

Modern devices have "different" failure modes to their older versions.



F Murtz March 5th 10 02:40 AM

1/4 turn ceramic tap inserts
 
Bob Minchin wrote:
I have had these in our bathroom for a few years and the hot tap is
dripping. This tap only has about 2m head from the tank and I wonder if
these taps need greater pressure to seal properly. The cold tap is
working at mains pressure and is giving no trouble.

Anyone know?

TIA

Bob

They mostly rely on pressure from o'rings to seal.
may be you can find new o'rings,if they are not specially made.

The Wanderer[_2_] March 5th 10 06:38 AM

1/4 turn ceramic tap inserts
 
On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:40:13 +1100, F Murtz wrote:

Bob Minchin wrote:
I have had these in our bathroom for a few years and the hot tap is
dripping. This tap only has about 2m head from the tank and I wonder if
these taps need greater pressure to seal properly. The cold tap is
working at mains pressure and is giving no trouble.

Anyone know?

TIA

Bob

They mostly rely on pressure from o'rings to seal.
may be you can find new o'rings,if they are not specially made.


IME, a spring loaded cup-shaped neoprene or similar seal, not just a common
or garden 'O' ring.


--
The Wanderer

I want to die how my Grandad died, peacefully, in his sleep,
Not like his passengers, who were screaming and shouting!


The Wanderer[_2_] March 5th 10 06:40 AM

1/4 turn ceramic tap inserts
 
On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 18:20:04 +0000, Bob Minchin wrote:

I have had these in our bathroom for a few years and the hot tap is
dripping. This tap only has about 2m head from the tank and I wonder if
these taps need greater pressure to seal properly. The cold tap is
working at mains pressure and is giving no trouble.

Anyone know?

TIA

Bob


If it's just the seals that are playing up, you could try

http://www.brev.co.uk/

Very useful for spares, shame about the floating logo!


--
The Wanderer

That no one understands doesn't make you an artist.


Mike Tomlinson[_3_] March 5th 10 09:59 AM

1/4 turn ceramic tap inserts
 
In article , The Medway
Handyman writes

I've replaced lots of ceramic cartridges that were only a few years old.
Spawn of Satan IMO.


Are they all the same? One size fits all?

Kitchen tap works but the 1/3 turn taps have become 'sticky'. I'm sure
that prior to going away, when I had some plumbing done - motion of the
levers required much less effort (turnable with little finger before,
now not)

--
Mike Tomlinson

fred March 5th 10 10:14 AM

1/4 turn ceramic tap inserts
 
In article , The Wanderer
writes
On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 18:20:04 +0000, Bob Minchin wrote:

I have had these in our bathroom for a few years and the hot tap is
dripping. This tap only has about 2m head from the tank and I wonder if
these taps need greater pressure to seal properly. The cold tap is
working at mains pressure and is giving no trouble.

Anyone know?

TIA

Bob


If it's just the seals that are playing up, you could try

http://www.brev.co.uk/

Very useful for spares, shame about the floating logo!

Hmmn, def a last resort site for that very reason but it does look
useful.

Turning of javascript stops the dancing logo though.
--
fred
BBC3, ITV2/3/4, channels going to the DOGs

PeterC March 5th 10 01:13 PM

1/4 turn ceramic tap inserts
 
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 23:23:08 -0000, John wrote:

I've replaced lots of ceramic cartridges that were only a few years old.
Spawn of Satan IMO.


Is the Medway Handyman unable to adapt to modern devices?

Does use a fall back line with his customers to blame his failures on modern
technology?

Modern devices have "different" failure modes to their older versions.


Yes, maintainance-free: when it goes wrong it has to be replaced.
--
Peter.
2x4 - thick plank; 4x4 - two of 'em.

Mike Clarke March 5th 10 05:49 PM

1/4 turn ceramic tap inserts
 
Mike Tomlinson wrote:

Are they all the same? *One size fits all?


No way| Take a look at http://www.brev.co.uk/

--
Mike Clarke

The Medway Handyman[_2_] March 5th 10 08:12 PM

1/4 turn ceramic tap inserts
 
John wrote:
I've replaced lots of ceramic cartridges that were only a few years
old. Spawn of Satan IMO.



Is the Medway Handyman unable to adapt to modern devices?

Does use a fall back line with his customers to blame his failures on
modern technology?


Neither. I live in the real world. I've sorted more leaky taps than you
could imagine. Ceramics don't last that much longer than washers in all
cases.

Situation 1. Traditional tap. Turn off water, remove head assembly,
replace washers, check seat, reseat if necessary, replace, turn on water,
check work. Worst case scenario 1 hours labour max - usually less, I don't
bother charging for washers.

Situation 2. Ceramic Cartridge tap. Turn off water, remove head assembly,
sod about removing bits of broken cartridge moulding (in many cases). Drive
to only stockist of ceramic cartridges in town, match cartridge, drive back
to customer, replace, turn on water, check work. Worst case scenario 2
hours + labour (depending on traffic), cost of cartridges £12 - £20.

Granted I earn more with ceramic taps, but the customer doesn't. He has
bought a maintenance headache.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk




The Medway Handyman[_2_] March 5th 10 08:13 PM

1/4 turn ceramic tap inserts
 
Mike Tomlinson wrote:
In article , The
Medway Handyman writes

I've replaced lots of ceramic cartridges that were only a few years
old. Spawn of Satan IMO.


Are they all the same? One size fits all?


Far from it! Not only do you have to match the cartridge, even the splines
are different sizes.

Kitchen tap works but the 1/3 turn taps have become 'sticky'. I'm
sure that prior to going away, when I had some plumbing done - motion
of the levers required much less effort (turnable with little finger
before, now not)


Worth descaling.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk




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