Hi All,
I have a Gas Combi boiler which is about 15 yr. old, British Gas tell me that it is
functioning alright but there is "Sludge" in the radiators which is causing Noises and intermittent
cooling of the lower part of three radiators. They say it is not covered under the Maintenance
agreement and I should pay for it to be "Power Flushed". My question is this too involved for a DIY
Selfer and what is the procedures and pitfalls.

Any helpful advice would be appreciated.
Thank you for taking the time to read this mail
Take care

Bill

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...
Hi All,
I have a Gas Combi boiler which is about 15 yr. old, British
Gas tell me that it is
functioning alright but there is "Sludge" in the radiators which is
causing Noises and intermittent
cooling of the lower part of three radiators. They say it is not covered
under the Maintenance
agreement and I should pay for it to be "Power Flushed". My question is
this too involved for a DIY
Selfer and what is the procedures and pitfalls.

Any helpful advice would be appreciated.

My advice is not to use BG for this power flush service. They are over
priced and they may well sub it out to a local plumber and milk the profits.
Get a local plumber to give you a quote.

--
Adam

discoverer wrote:
Hi All,
I have a Gas Combi boiler which is about 15 yr. old,
British Gas tell me that it is functioning alright but there is
"Sludge" in the radiators which is causing Noises and intermittent
cooling of the lower part of three radiators. They say it is not
covered under the Maintenance agreement and I should pay for it to be
"Power Flushed". My question is this too involved for a DIY Selfer
and what is the procedures and pitfalls.

Any helpful advice would be appreciated.
Thank you for taking the time to read this mail
Take care

Bill

Serach back on this NG on Google for Andy Hall's instructions to DIY.

On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:23:52 +0100, "discoverer"
wrote:

Hi All,
I have a Gas Combi boiler which is about 15 yr. old, British Gas tell me that it is
functioning alright but there is "Sludge" in the radiators which is causing Noises and intermittent
cooling of the lower part of three radiators. They say it is not covered under the Maintenance
agreement and I should pay for it to be "Power Flushed". My question is this too involved for a DIY
Selfer and what is the procedures and pitfalls.

Any helpful advice would be appreciated.
Thank you for taking the time to read this mail
Take care

Bill

Bill

We had a thread about this in some detail about a week ago.

Please do a search on Google Groups.

Briefly though:

- This is a standard BG game to extract several hundred pounds from
you.

- If you want to pay for a power flush, you can get a better deal from
a local plumber or heating engineer, but even that in my view is
expensive for what it is.

- You can hire the power flushing equipment equipment and buy the
chemicals from a hire place.

- If you take a look back at previous posts, I have described a method
which involves removing radiators and taking them outside to be
flushed. I found this to be completely effective and considerably
less expensive than any of the above. Apart from repeating the
warning that you need to be careful not to drip water or sludge on the
carpet because it stains, I won't repeat the entire details here.






..andy

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Andy Hall wrote:
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:23:52 +0100, "discoverer"
wrote:

Hi All,
I have a Gas Combi boiler which is about 15 yr. old,
British Gas tell me that it is functioning alright but there is
"Sludge" in the radiators which is causing Noises and intermittent
cooling of the lower part of three radiators. They say it is not
covered under the Maintenance agreement and I should pay for it to
be "Power Flushed". My question is this too involved for a DIY
Selfer and what is the procedures and pitfalls.

Any helpful advice would be appreciated.
Thank you for taking the time to read this mail
Take care

Bill

Bill

We had a thread about this in some detail about a week ago.

Please do a search on Google Groups.

Briefly though:

- This is a standard BG game to extract several hundred pounds from
you.

- If you want to pay for a power flush, you can get a better deal from
a local plumber or heating engineer, but even that in my view is
expensive for what it is.

- You can hire the power flushing equipment equipment and buy the
chemicals from a hire place.

- If you take a look back at previous posts, I have described a method
which involves removing radiators and taking them outside to be
flushed. I found this to be completely effective and considerably
less expensive than any of the above. Apart from repeating the
warning that you need to be careful not to drip water or sludge on the
carpet because it stains, I won't repeat the entire details here.
.andy

I paid about £12 monthly for many years to BG for a service contract, but
although they informed me that they could no longer repair the boiler, the
monthly charge was not reduced. The final straw was when my heating system
started knocking badly. BG didn't offer me a power flush, only a new boiler
at over £2000. I finally solved the problem myself by completely draining,
flushing and refilling with inhibitor. The result is that I have now had an
efficient, silent working system for over two years at a cost of less than
£30. Needless to say I immediately cancelled the service contract. Over
the years I could easily have paid for a complete new system. My advice is
to drain and flush your system with Fernox or an alternative, and then
refill with a corrosion inhibitor. It's time consuming and not the best
time of year to do it, but well worth it if you persevere. The water from
my radiators has never contained sludge and the water is perfectly clear.

Terry D.

"Terry D" wrote in message


I finally solved the problem myself by completely draining,
flushing and refilling with a corrosion inhibitor. It's time consuming
and not the best time of year to do it, but well worth it if you
persevere.

I would have thought this is the best time to do it as the winter is
coming and people will be thinking about switching on their C.H. systems
soon.



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Hi All,
I was so surprised to find such a speedy positive response to my appeal for help on
this problem, my personal thanks to:AR WADSWORTH, BILL R, ANDY HALL, TERRY D AND MICHAEL MCNEIL for
their input. I shall search Google for Andy's instructions and report the outcome later. I must
say what a superb group this is.

Regards
Take care

Bill
"Andy Hall" wrote in message ...
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:23:52 +0100, "discoverer"
wrote:

Hi All,
I have a Gas Combi boiler which is about 15 yr. old, British Gas tell me that it is
functioning alright but there is "Sludge" in the radiators which is causing Noises and intermittent
cooling of the lower part of three radiators. They say it is not covered under the Maintenance
agreement and I should pay for it to be "Power Flushed". My question is this too involved for a
DIY
Selfer and what is the procedures and pitfalls.

Any helpful advice would be appreciated.
Thank you for taking the time to read this mail
Take care

Bill

Bill

We had a thread about this in some detail about a week ago.

Please do a search on Google Groups.

Briefly though:

- This is a standard BG game to extract several hundred pounds from
you.

- If you want to pay for a power flush, you can get a better deal from
a local plumber or heating engineer, but even that in my view is
expensive for what it is.

- You can hire the power flushing equipment equipment and buy the
chemicals from a hire place.

- If you take a look back at previous posts, I have described a method
which involves removing radiators and taking them outside to be
flushed. I found this to be completely effective and considerably
less expensive than any of the above. Apart from repeating the
warning that you need to be careful not to drip water or sludge on the
carpet because it stains, I won't repeat the entire details here.






..andy

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"Michael Mcneil" wrote in message
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"Terry D" wrote in message


I finally solved the problem myself by completely draining,
flushing and refilling with a corrosion inhibitor. It's time consuming
and not the best time of year to do it, but well worth it if you
persevere.

I would have thought this is the best time to do it as the winter is
coming and people will be thinking about switching on their C.H. systems
soon.

I'm sure most people would have already turned their heating on by now!
Either that, or we're just having a localised cold period down in the SE.
If heating's being used, now isn't the time to be doing unnecessary
maintenance which could be deferred to a time when the heating is less
important.

D

I would have thought this is the best time to do it as the winter is
coming and people will be thinking about switching on their C.H. systems
soon.


Coming????????

Gawd help us when it arrives; I've already had hard frosts and I'm only
just outside the M25!

mike r

"discoverer" wrote in
:

I must say what a
superb group this is.

Aw, shucks

mike r

discoverer wrote:
Hi All,
I was so surprised to find such a speedy positive
response to my appeal for help on this problem, my personal thanks
to:AR WADSWORTH, BILL R, ANDY HALL, TERRY D AND MICHAEL MCNEIL for
their input. I shall search Google for Andy's instructions and
report the outcome later. I must say what a superb group this is.

Regards
Take care

Bill

I had to do the worst one of my daughter's rads yesterday.
Old curtains on floor to catch drips.
Screwed down both rad valves.
[had blanked off washing m/c hose connectors ready in case rad valve did not
100% shutoff]
Undid one end with cat litter tray underneath to catch potentially very
staining black water.
Opened bleed valve so most drained out.
Undid other rad/valve connection.
Tipped as much as poss into container.
Closed bleed valve and turned rad upside down to carry it outside. 2 people
would be best with big rad.
Flushed it through with hosepipe.
Replaced and repressurized combi system.
Took 20 minutes ... the rest can wait until the spring :-)

"Andy Hall" wrote in message
... On Sat, 25 Oct
2003 19:23:52 +0100, "discoverer"
wrote:

Hi All,
I have a Gas Combi boiler which is about 15 yr. old,
British Gas tell me that it is functioning alright but there is
"Sludge" in the radiators which is causing Noises and intermittent
cooling of the lower part of three radiators. They say it is not
covered under the Maintenance agreement and I should pay for it to
be "Power Flushed". My question is this too involved for a DIY
Selfer and what is the procedures and pitfalls.

Any helpful advice would be appreciated.
Thank you for taking the time to read this mail
Take care

Bill

Bill

We had a thread about this in some detail about a week ago.

Please do a search on Google Groups.

Briefly though:

- This is a standard BG game to extract several hundred pounds from
you.

- If you want to pay for a power flush, you can get a better deal from
a local plumber or heating engineer, but even that in my view is
expensive for what it is.

- You can hire the power flushing equipment equipment and buy the
chemicals from a hire place.

- If you take a look back at previous posts, I have described a method
which involves removing radiators and taking them outside to be
flushed. I found this to be completely effective and considerably
less expensive than any of the above. Apart from repeating the
warning that you need to be careful not to drip water or sludge on the
carpet because it stains, I won't repeat the entire details here.






.andy

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Hi All,
Promised to report back on this one but my computer has been down with intermittent
access to the newsgroups on NTL. The removal of the rads proved a huge success, they were "sludged
up" Confronting the BG engineer with the fact the system had been Flushed thoroughly, He then
pronounced the Diverter valve was indeed faulty. We finally wait for the replacement which we are
told is on order. So big thank you to everyone who contributed.
Best regards
Take care

Bill
"discoverer" wrote in message
...
Hi All,
I was so surprised to find such a speedy positive response to my appeal for help on
this problem, my personal thanks to:AR WADSWORTH, BILL R, ANDY HALL, TERRY D AND MICHAEL MCNEIL for
their input. I shall search Google for Andy's instructions and report the outcome later. I must
say what a superb group this is.

Regards
Take care

Bill
"Andy Hall" wrote in message ...
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:23:52 +0100, "discoverer"
wrote:

Hi All,
I have a Gas Combi boiler which is about 15 yr. old, British Gas tell me that it is
functioning alright but there is "Sludge" in the radiators which is causing Noises and intermittent
cooling of the lower part of three radiators. They say it is not covered under the Maintenance
agreement and I should pay for it to be "Power Flushed". My question is this too involved for a
DIY
Selfer and what is the procedures and pitfalls.

Any helpful advice would be appreciated.
Thank you for taking the time to read this mail
Take care

Bill

Bill

We had a thread about this in some detail about a week ago.

Please do a search on Google Groups.

Briefly though:

- This is a standard BG game to extract several hundred pounds from
you.

- If you want to pay for a power flush, you can get a better deal from
a local plumber or heating engineer, but even that in my view is
expensive for what it is.

- You can hire the power flushing equipment equipment and buy the
chemicals from a hire place.

- If you take a look back at previous posts, I have described a method
which involves removing radiators and taking them outside to be
flushed. I found this to be completely effective and considerably
less expensive than any of the above. Apart from repeating the
warning that you need to be careful not to drip water or sludge on the
carpet because it stains, I won't repeat the entire details here.






..andy

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