from pavement outside terraced huse....
Most of it solid so I'm sorely tempted to whip out my
heat gun and melt the crap away.

Arthur

Arthur 51 wrote:
from pavement outside terraced huse....
Most of it solid so I'm sorely tempted to whip out my
heat gun and melt the crap away.

wasting your time.

I tried to defrost a fridge that way.

angle grinder and hot salty water.


Arthur

On 10/01/2010 11:09, Arthur 51 wrote:
from pavement outside terraced huse....
Most of it solid so I'm sorely tempted to whip out my
heat gun and melt the crap away.

Arthur


Spade (don't usually need a shovel so have not got one) and stiff broom.
And a few handfuls of dishwasher salt. And quite a lot of exercise.

For the first time yesterday I saw a group of people clearing the end of
a road together (a steep turn which would block them even if the rest of
their road were not too bad). Quite obviously is was impassable to most
vehicles but it took them a while to do anything despite the
considerable number of people who live up that road.

On my little bit I seem to be the only one who has actively cleared snow
but someone at the other end of the loop has been sprinkling a bit of
grit/salt. And several people have been driving over the snow making it
into a very slippery packed ice.

And the good old journos come out with all the legal pitfalls of
clearing. Wish they would put up a few articles about the best
techniques, how good it can be for you, etc.

--
Rod

On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 11:13:38 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

Arthur 51 wrote:
from pavement outside terraced huse....
Most of it solid so I'm sorely tempted to whip out my
heat gun and melt the crap away.

wasting your time.

I tried to defrost a fridge that way.

angle grinder and hot salty water.

Off on a tangent from that. Up until the early 60s (first spotted it
when I just joined the RN), they used a water bowser to keep the roads
and much of the pavements clear. They topped it up with sea oggin then
drove around the town, spraying it from front and rear spray bars.
Kept the town wonderfully clear of snow and ice. Don't really know why
they stopped it as sea salt probably couldn't be more damaging than
road salt they use now. Spect I will now get shot down.

On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 15:17:25 +0000, Old Git wrote:

On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 11:13:38 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

Arthur 51 wrote:
from pavement outside terraced huse....
Most of it solid so I'm sorely tempted to whip out my
heat gun and melt the crap away.

wasting your time.

I tried to defrost a fridge that way.

angle grinder and hot salty water.

Off on a tangent from that. Up until the early 60s (first spotted it
when I just joined the RN), they used a water bowser to keep the roads
and much of the pavements clear. They topped it up with sea oggin then
drove around the town, spraying it from front and rear spray bars.
Kept the town wonderfully clear of snow and ice. Don't really know why
they stopped it as sea salt probably couldn't be more damaging than
road salt they use now. Spect I will now get shot down.

There's one council (Staffs., Cheshire? - that wayish) that's wetting the
salt as it's fed to the spinner. Apparently it acts more quicly and spreads
better than just salt.
--
Peter.
2x4 - thick plank; 4x4 - two of 'em.

On Jan 10, 3:17 pm, Old Git
wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 11:13:38 +0000, The Natural Philosopher

wrote:
Arthur 51 wrote:
from pavement outside terraced huse....
Most of it solid so I'm sorely tempted to whip out my
heat gun and melt the crap away.

wasting your time.

I tried to defrost a fridge that way.

angle grinder and hot salty water.

Off on a tangent from that. Up until the early 60s (first spotted it
when I just joined the RN), they used a water bowser to keep the roads
and much of the pavements clear. They topped it up with sea oggin then
drove around the town, spraying it from front and rear spray bars.
Kept the town wonderfully clear of snow and ice. Don't really know why
they stopped it as sea salt probably couldn't be more damaging than
road salt they use now. Spect I will now get shot down.

sounds a simple solution - that's usually enough for some feckwit to
want to "make their name" trying to "iimprove" things, then move jobs
before they get rumbled, to work for another local Council...

maybe they got fed up with all the turds, noddies and tampons that got
stuck in the machine? :)

JimK

Rod wrote:
And the good old journos come out with all the legal pitfalls of
clearing. Wish they would put up a few articles about the best
techniques, how good it can be for you, etc.

The Sheffield Improvement Act 1818 makes it illegal for me
to *not* clear the snow from in front of my property. Some
Town Councillors were prosecuted in the 1870s to set an
example.

JGH

On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 13:00:39 -0800 (PST), jgharston
wrote:

Rod wrote:
And the good old journos come out with all the legal pitfalls of
clearing. Wish they would put up a few articles about the best
techniques, how good it can be for you, etc.

The Sheffield Improvement Act 1818 makes it illegal for me
to *not* clear the snow from in front of my property.

I can't see how they can get away with that.

Normally the footway belongs to the local authority - not to the
householder past which the footway passes. If it doesn't belong to the
council (eg if the street hasn't been adopted), then I should imagine
that the footway belongs to the householder and pedestrians use it at
their own risk.


Unless when you say "in front of my property" you mean simply your
driveway...

--
Frank Erskine

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember jgharston
saying something like:

The Sheffield Improvement Act 1818 makes it illegal for me
to *not* clear the snow from in front of my property. Some
Town Councillors were prosecuted in the 1870s to set an
example.

Hang an Admiral or two to encourage the others?

On 11/01/2010 16:53, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember
saying something like:

The Sheffield Improvement Act 1818 makes it illegal for me
to *not* clear the snow from in front of my property. Some
Town Councillors were prosecuted in the 1870s to set an
example.

Hang an Admiral or two to encourage the others?

So we should hang Microsoft's search engine? :-)

--
Rod

In article ,
jgharston writes:

The Sheffield Improvement Act 1818

How long do they think it's going to take? ;-)

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

Owain wrote:
On 11 Jan, 17:24, (Andrew Gabriel) wrote:
The Sheffield Improvement Act 1818
How long do they think it's going to take? ;-)

I blame the council ...


Quite right too. As long as government acts at every level as if we were
a bunch of absolutely equal and definitely voting, complete and utter
morons that must on no account do anything at all that conceivably can
be done worse by a chain of 150 bureaucrats on high wages, mulling over
the details of exactly what constitutes a risk assessment exercise, then
there is no one else to blame BUT the government. At whatever level it
has taken responsibility away from teh citizen and taken it into its
bosom, as it were.

In short, once you step outside your front door, *everything* is the
governments fault, because it adopts the attitude that people are
stupid, irresponsible and cannot take care of themselves or their
environment,without a plethora of detailed laws that dictated accetable
standards of everything.

And, because the implication is that without those, there would be
social chaos, the conclusion must be that people are not capable of
running their own lives, and are therefore blameless in every way for
behaving like the complete and utter brainless morons that the
government forces them to be.

The cardinal sin today, is to behave as if you were an intelligent
person capable of taking a decision based on experience. Only the rule
book must be followed.


Simples!

As I mentioned before, Nu Laber has taken the absolute worst examples
from British industrial management of the 40's and 50's and applied it
to the whole nation.

Namely mushroom management. Keep them in the dark and feed them on bull****.









Owain

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

As I mentioned before, Nu Laber has taken the absolute worst examples
from British industrial management of the 40's and 50's and applied it
to the whole nation.

Old Labour's problem was that they could never stop living in the 1930s,
New Labour moved on about twent years, they think it's the 1950s.

--
djc @work

djc wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:

As I mentioned before, Nu Laber has taken the absolute worst examples
from British industrial management of the 40's and 50's and applied it
to the whole nation.

Old Labour's problem was that they could never stop living in the 1930s,
New Labour moved on about twent years, they think it's the 1950s.

they are well on their way to recreating it.

Poverty
Power cuts
coal burning.
Austerity
Rationing
Widespread illiteracy and innumeracy.
Drowned in government debt.

Still, with luck we have the swinging 60's to look forward to
again.,.once the *******s are history.

The Natural Philosopher wrote:
they are well on their way to recreating it.

Poverty
Power cuts
coal burning.
Austerity
Rationing
Widespread illiteracy and innumeracy.
Drowned in government debt.

Still, with luck we have the swinging 60's to look forward to
again.,.once the *******s are history.

Not much illiteracy and innumeracy around in the 20th Century. Not
'till the back end anyway.

Andy

The message
from Tim W contains these words:

The Natural Philosopher
wibbled on Tuesday 12 January 2010 13:54

Still, with luck we have the swinging 60's to look forward to
again.,.once the *******s are history.

Long hair on blokes - check
Flares - check

Burning bras and bare-chested women with bristly legs and bristly chins?

Appin
wibbled on Tuesday 12 January 2010 20:59

The message
from Tim W contains these words:

The Natural Philosopher
wibbled on Tuesday 12 January 2010 13:54

Still, with luck we have the swinging 60's to look forward to
again.,.once the *******s are history.

Long hair on blokes - check
Flares - check

Burning bras and bare-chested women with bristly legs and bristly chins?

London Naked Bike Ride?

--
Tim Watts

Icicles - nature's way of pinpointing all the leaks in your guttering...

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:59:12 +0000, Appin wrote:

The message
from Tim W contains these words:

The Natural Philosopher
wibbled on Tuesday 12 January 2010 13:54

Still, with luck we have the swinging 60's to look forward to
again.,.once the *******s are history.

Long hair on blokes - check
Flares - check

Burning bras and bare-chested women with bristly legs and bristly chins?

Never have to buy sandpaper again, tho'