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http://beaverbridges.co.uk/bridges-for-sale/ I'm just trying to see how the angle-grinder aspect fits, but I'm sure it's in there somewhere. |
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"Steve Walker" wrote in message ... Isn't this the coolest DIY option ever? http://beaverbridges.co.uk/bridges-for-sale/ I'm just trying to see how the angle-grinder aspect fits, but I'm sure it's in there somewhere. Makes you wonder how the army came across a surplus bridge in the storeroom? |
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In message , Steve Walker
writes Isn't this the coolest DIY option ever? http://beaverbridges.co.uk/bridges-for-sale/ I'm just trying to see how the angle-grinder aspect fits, but I'm sure it's in there somewhere. They could do with some of them oop north - isn't there another main road bridge about to get washed away (with or without plod on it ) -- geoff |
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No, it was the bridge that socialism built that the people could not
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In message , Steve Walker
writes Isn't this the coolest DIY option ever? http://beaverbridges.co.uk/bridges-for-sale/ I'm just trying to see how the angle-grinder aspect fits, but I'm sure it's in there somewhere. ****it I blame you for this The bridge of my glasses has just snapped bugger ! -- geoff |
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On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:29:19 +0000, geoff wrote:
In message , Steve Walker writes Isn't this the coolest DIY option ever? http://beaverbridges.co.uk/bridges-for-sale/ I'm just trying to see how the angle-grinder aspect fits, but I'm sure it's in there somewhere. They could do with some of them oop north - isn't there another main road bridge about to get washed away (with or without plod on it ) I'm amazed that they didn't look closer at these bridges before - it's not like flooding has never happened here before ... my sister's house in Cockermouth was flooded a few years ago and they were worried about the bridges then. Luckily for her, she's moved away since and lives half-way up a large hill! SteveW |
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On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:29:19 +0000 Geoff wrote :
They could do with some of them oop north - isn't there another main road bridge about to get washed away (with or without plod on it ) Not just oop north, near my old home too ... "Commuters face travel chaos over Christmas after a railway bridge collapsed into a river during heavy rainfall. A train driver raised the alarm at around midnight on Saturday after crossing the 100-year-old bridge over the River Crane, in Feltham." http://www.richmondandtwickenhamtime...ver_Christmas/ -- Tony Bryer, Greentram: 'Software to build on' Melbourne, Australia www.superbeam.co.uk www.superbeam.com www.greentram.com |
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On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:15:17 -0000, Steve Walker wrote:
Isn't this the coolest DIY option ever? http://beaverbridges.co.uk/bridges-for-sale/ I wonder what they will do with the gaps created on the main roads. Can't see why the army can't be called in and Bailey type bridge installed. After all they installed a girder bridge when the Eden washed away the sandstone bridge at Langwathby in 1968. That Bailey type bridge is still there and is probably the oldest "temporary" bridge in the country. http://www.langwathby.org/bridge.htm -- Cheers Dave. |
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Dave Liquorice" saying something like: After all they installed a girder bridge when the Eden washed away the sandstone bridge at Langwathby in 1968. That Bailey type bridge is still there and is probably the oldest "temporary" bridge in the country. I've seen a few Bailey bridges dotted around the UK, and I distinctly recall the first one I encountered in 1962ish was on a road just south of Ayr. It was still there a few years ago, surprising me somewhat as I had expected it to be gone by then. |
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Steve Walker wrote:
On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:29:19 +0000, geoff wrote: In message , Steve Walker writes Isn't this the coolest DIY option ever? http://beaverbridges.co.uk/bridges-for-sale/ I'm just trying to see how the angle-grinder aspect fits, but I'm sure it's in there somewhere. They could do with some of them oop north - isn't there another main road bridge about to get washed away (with or without plod on it ) I'm amazed that they didn't look closer at these bridges before - it's not like flooding has never happened here before ... my sister's house in Cockermouth was flooded a few years ago and they were worried about the bridges then. Luckily for her, she's moved away since and lives half-way up a large hill! SteveW How can you look at the foundations? They are underground and under water. That's what's gone. The river has undermined them. Worst recorded rainfall ever apparently. |
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"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message ... We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "Dave Liquorice" saying something like: After all they installed a girder bridge when the Eden washed away the sandstone bridge at Langwathby in 1968. That Bailey type bridge is still there and is probably the oldest "temporary" bridge in the country. I've seen a few Bailey bridges dotted around the UK, and I distinctly recall the first one I encountered in 1962ish was on a road just south of Ayr. It was still there a few years ago, surprising me somewhat as I had expected it to be gone by then. Our country seems to rely on structures build by the Victorians - and earlier. We don't even seem to be able to maintain such structures properly. Near me are bridges over a railway which in my childhood were regularly painted - now they are rusting. River beds need to be dredged under bridges to ensure that a rush of water can be allowed through without backing up. Also - debris needs clearing away from river banks before it gets washed down stream to block bridges. |
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On 23 Nov, 00:40, Grimly Curmudgeon
wrote: We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "Dave Liquorice" saying something like: After all they installed a girder bridge when the Eden washed away the sandstone bridge at Langwathby in 1968. That Bailey type bridge is still there and is probably the oldest "temporary" bridge in the country. I've seen a few Bailey bridges dotted around the UK, and I distinctly recall the first one I encountered in 1962ish was on a road just south of Ayr. It was still there a few years ago, surprising me somewhat as I had expected it to be gone by then. Still there - at least there's one in that area somewhere near Drongan that I crossed earlier this year. Rob |
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wibbled on Monday 23 November 2009 09:09 Our country seems to rely on structures build by the Victorians - and earlier. We don't even seem to be able to maintain such structures properly. Near me are bridges over a railway which in my childhood were regularly painted - now they are rusting. River beds need to be dredged under bridges to ensure that a rush of water can be allowed through without backing up. Also - debris needs clearing away from river banks before it gets washed down stream to block bridges. Tell me about it. down here in Robertsbridge, East Sussex, there have been two major floods in 2000. So the Environment Agency installed bunds and movable flood gates at enormous cost. At the same time, they also dredged all the many streams and ditches in the area, something that had not been happening regularly. Oddly enough, they've never had to use the flood gates and I've not yet this year, despite serious rain, seen any sign of excessive water either on the fields beyond the bunds or in the streams. No-one is complaining about having a belt and braces system, but some of us do wonder if the EA had done their job (dredging and clearing) each year, then the floods of 2000 may never have happened and they might have saved a few million on fancy gates. They seem to take their duty seriously now - EA Landrovers were about last Friday with blokes clearing the banks of weeds and crap :) -- Tim Watts This space intentionally left blank... |
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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote
How can you look at the foundations? They are underground and under water. Hold your breath, stick you head under the water and look, simples. |
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"Piers Finlayson" wrote
I'm planning on putting a bridge across a stream on my land. I had intended to put a couple of timber sleepers down, but I hadn't anticipated the need for a tank crossing. you never know, better to have a bridge that can handle a tank, than one that can't the day you decide to buy a tank... for some reason neigbour disputes maybe :) bit like germany, all road bridges have a weight limit sign on them, top one shows trucks and their weight limit, and the lower sign shows tanks, and if it's for single way crossing or both ways, i never checked if the single way crossing weight limits all point east tho :D |
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On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:40:28 +0000, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
After all they installed a girder bridge when the Eden washed away the sandstone bridge at Langwathby in 1968. That Bailey type bridge is still there and is probably the oldest "temporary" bridge in the country. I've seen a few Bailey bridges dotted around the UK, and I distinctly recall the first one I encountered in 1962ish was on a road just south of Ayr. It was still there a few years ago, Ah but was it purposely put there as a permenant bridge or put there as a short term, emergancy, measure when the orginal bridge collapsed/was washed away? -- Cheers Dave. |
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"geoff" wrote in message ... In message , Steve Walker writes Isn't this the coolest DIY option ever? http://beaverbridges.co.uk/bridges-for-sale/ I'm just trying to see how the angle-grinder aspect fits, but I'm sure it's in there somewhere. ****it I blame you for this The bridge of my glasses has just snapped Take them off before you put your head up your arse. bugger ! Correct. |
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"Tim W" wrote in message ... John wibbled on Monday 23 November 2009 09:09 Our country seems to rely on structures build by the Victorians - and earlier. We don't even seem to be able to maintain such structures properly. Near me are bridges over a railway which in my childhood were regularly painted - now they are rusting. River beds need to be dredged under bridges to ensure that a rush of water can be allowed through without backing up. Also - debris needs clearing away from river banks before it gets washed down stream to block bridges. Tell me about it. down here in Robertsbridge, East Sussex, there have been two major floods in 2000. So the Environment Agency installed bunds and movable flood gates at enormous cost. At the same time, they also dredged all the many streams and ditches in the area, something that had not been happening regularly. Oddly enough, they've never had to use the flood gates and I've not yet this year, despite serious rain, seen any sign of excessive water either on the fields beyond the bunds or in the streams. No-one is complaining about having a belt and braces system, but some of us do wonder if the EA had done their job (dredging and clearing) each year, then the floods of 2000 may never have happened and they might have saved a few million on fancy gates. They seem to take their duty seriously now - EA Landrovers were about last Friday with blokes clearing the banks of weeds and crap :) -- Tim Watts Are all the pubs at the other side of the river to your bungalow Tim? If they are you need a bridge just in case. Adam |
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wibbled on Monday 23 November 2009 12:53 On 22 Nov, Steve Walker wrote: On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:29:19 +0000, geoff wrote: In message , Steve Walker writes Isn't this the coolest DIY option ever? http://beaverbridges.co.uk/bridges-for-sale/ I'm just trying to see how the angle-grinder aspect fits, but I'm sure it's in there somewhere. They could do with some of them oop north - isn't there another main road bridge about to get washed away (with or without plod on it ) I'm amazed that they didn't look closer at these bridges before - it's not like flooding has never happened here before ... my sister's house in Cockermouth was flooded a few years ago and they were worried about the bridges then. Luckily for her, she's moved away since and lives half-way up a large hill! I remember one collapsing in the 1966 floods. An archer was employed by teh GPO to get a line across for to pull telephone cables across. A bailey bridge was built quickly by the military to replace it, and I think it's still in use. It's almost certainly not possible for the military to do the same again. Privatisation will have removed that ability. In effect. BT would ring up the Army and say: "how about a bridge then" The Army would say: "Sure - happy to help. Equipment and men, hmm, that'll be £££££, payable in advance please as you have the face of a deadbeat" -- Tim Watts This space intentionally left blank... |
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On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:57:53 +0000
Tim W wrote: John wibbled on Monday 23 November 2009 09:09 At the same time, they also dredged all the many streams and ditches in the area, something that had not been happening regularly. Oddly enough, they've never had to use the flood gates and I've not yet this year, despite serious rain, seen any sign of excessive water either on the fields beyond the bunds or in the streams. This is interesting. I have a beck (mountain stream) about 20 feet from my house - the land slopes away from the house and beck so there is no chance of flooding us. However in 2005 it over-topped twice, so the farmer whose land it floods came by with a JCB and dredged it. He didn't widen it, nor did he deepen it much, but he did re-distribute the stones on the bottom. This weekend it filled right up, we were convinced that it would over-top, but it didn't. My theory is that the farmer's tidying of the beck made it flow better. Of course, the water all ended up in Cockermouth about 8 miles downstream and then went to Workington to wash their bridges and Bobby away. I'm thinking of inventing some kind of chuck-in generator for days like these. There is plenty of energy there. R. |
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wibbled on Monday 23 November 2009 13:28 "Tim W" wrote in message ... John wibbled on Monday 23 November 2009 09:09 Our country seems to rely on structures build by the Victorians - and earlier. We don't even seem to be able to maintain such structures properly. Near me are bridges over a railway which in my childhood were regularly painted - now they are rusting. River beds need to be dredged under bridges to ensure that a rush of water can be allowed through without backing up. Also - debris needs clearing away from river banks before it gets washed down stream to block bridges. Tell me about it. down here in Robertsbridge, East Sussex, there have been two major floods in 2000. So the Environment Agency installed bunds and movable flood gates at enormous cost. At the same time, they also dredged all the many streams and ditches in the area, something that had not been happening regularly. Oddly enough, they've never had to use the flood gates and I've not yet this year, despite serious rain, seen any sign of excessive water either on the fields beyond the bunds or in the streams. No-one is complaining about having a belt and braces system, but some of us do wonder if the EA had done their job (dredging and clearing) each year, then the floods of 2000 may never have happened and they might have saved a few million on fancy gates. They seem to take their duty seriously now - EA Landrovers were about last Friday with blokes clearing the banks of weeds and crap :) -- Tim Watts Are all the pubs at the other side of the river to your bungalow Tim? If they are you need a bridge just in case. Adam Thankfully the Ostrich is on the right side of the barrier and the George is high enough and can be reached by circuitous means. And Sainsburys have a special on decent beers, so the larder is full :) Sadly, the railway is high out of the flood zone, otherwise the missus could get a week off... -- Tim Watts This space intentionally left blank... |
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On 22 Nov, 22:35, Tony Bryer wrote:
On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:29:19 +0000 Geoff wrote : They could do with some of them oop north - isn't there another main road bridge about to get washed away *(with or without plod on it ) Not just oop north, near my old home too ... "Commuters face travel chaos over Christmas after a railway bridge collapsed into a river during heavy rainfall. A train driver raised the alarm at around midnight on Saturday after crossing the 100-year-old bridge over the River Crane, in Feltham." http://www.richmondandtwickenhamtime...ndnews/4751160... Collapsed bridge will take 'a number of weeks' to repair Dosen`t look like anything sime car body filer wouldn`t cope with ;-) Cheers Adam -- Tony Bryer, *Greentram: 'Software to build on' Melbourne, Australiawww.superbeam.co.uk*www.superbeam.com*www.greentram.com |
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On 23 Nov, 12:53, wrote:
I remember one collapsing in the 1966 floods. An archer was employed by teh GPO to get a line across for to pull telephone cables across. A bailey bridge was built quickly by the military to replace it, and I think it's still in use. Langwathby, near Penrith. 1968 I think, and I drove over it only a few years ago. |
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On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 06:20:06 -0800 (PST), Andy Dingley wrote:
I remember one collapsing in the 1966 floods. An archer was employed by teh GPO to get a line across for to pull telephone cables across. A bailey bridge was built quickly by the military to replace it, and I think it's still in use. Langwathby, near Penrith. 1968 I think, and I drove over it only a few years ago. Correct, and that "temporary" girder bridge is it is still there. It was closed for a while on Thursday/Friday. -- Cheers Dave. |
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On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:40:33 +0000, Mike Clarke
wrote: wrote: I remember one collapsing in the 1966 floods. An archer was employed by teh GPO to get a line across for to pull telephone cables across. A bailey bridge was built quickly by the military to replace it, and I think it's still in use. That sounds like the bridge over the Eden on the Alston to Penrith road at Langwathby. http://www.langwathby.org/bridge.htm That isn't a Bailey bridge. It is a Callender-Hamilton bridge. The Callender-Hamilton is a very different beast. It pre-dated the Bailey design. It is stronger than a simple Bailey bridge and can carry heavier loads and/or span significantly longer distances. However, it takes much longer to construct than a Bailey bridge because it is made of many individual pieces of galvanised steel bolted together with thousands of galvanised bolts which all need to be torqued up. The Bailey bridge is prefabricated in panels which are joined together with dowel pins - an instant fix. Only the cross beams that carry the deck need to be bolted. The Callender company later became part of BICC (British Insulated Callenders Cables) which spawned the engineering contractor Balfour Beatty. So Balfour Beatty holds the rights to the Callender Hamilton bridge system while Fairfield Mabey holds the rights to the later variants of the Bailey design. The designer of the Callender-Hamilton bridge, Archibald Milne Hamilton, successfully sued Donald Bailey, the designer of the Bailey bridge, for breach of patent. However, it is fair to say that the Bailey bridge's panel design was superior in that it allowed rapid construction without needing heavy lifting equipment, which meant it was much more successful as a military bridging system. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._M._Hamilton http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bailey_bridge |
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In message , "dennis@home"
writes "geoff" wrote in message ... In message , Steve Walker writes Isn't this the coolest DIY option ever? http://beaverbridges.co.uk/bridges-for-sale/ I'm just trying to see how the angle-grinder aspect fits, but I'm sure it's in there somewhere. ****it I blame you for this The bridge of my glasses has just snapped Take them off before you put your head up your arse. bugger ! Correct. Now, now, that's not at all nice Dennis you retard -- geoff |
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In message , "dennis@home" writes "geoff" wrote in message ... In message , Steve Walker writes Isn't this the coolest DIY option ever? http://beaverbridges.co.uk/bridges-for-sale/ I'm just trying to see how the angle-grinder aspect fits, but I'm sure it's in there somewhere. ****it I blame you for this The bridge of my glasses has just snapped Take them off before you put your head up your arse. bugger ! Correct. Now, now, that's not at all nice Dennis you retard Don't call Dennis a retard. It's offensive to retards. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Dave Liquorice" saying something like: I've seen a few Bailey bridges dotted around the UK, and I distinctly recall the first one I encountered in 1962ish was on a road just south of Ayr. It was still there a few years ago, Ah but was it purposely put there as a permenant bridge or put there as a short term, emergancy, measure when the orginal bridge collapsed/was washed away? The story I heard at the time (1962, from my Dad) was it was supposed to be temporary, but it deteriorated so little and took minimal maintenance it just got left in place as it was cheap and doing a good job. I suppose, in the 50s/60s, there would have been a few of them on the surplus market. |
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On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:50:28 +0000, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
I've seen a few Bailey bridges dotted around the UK, and I distinctly recall the first one I encountered in 1962ish was on a road just south of Ayr. It was still there a few years ago, Ah but was it purposely put there as a permenant bridge or put there as a short term, emergancy, measure when the orginal bridge collapsed/was washed away? The story I heard at the time (1962, from my Dad) was it was supposed to be temporary, but it deteriorated so little and took minimal maintenance it just got left in place as it was cheap and doing a good job. Sounds just like Langwathby Bridge. There were a few attempts to get money from the millenium fund to replace it but it never happend. TBH it's strong enough for the traffic and it's not a very busy road so the lights aren't a problem either. Less so since the 2005 flood and they replaced the simple timed sequence set with ones with microwave senors to detect vechicles still on the bridge(*) and approaching stuff. (*) Drivers of artics who didn't know the road/bridge could some times mess up getting the trailer aligned with the bridge, which is only just wide enough, on the hard left turn that is required to get onto the bridge. -- Cheers Dave. |
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On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:01:48 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Liquorice"
wrote: Sounds just like Langwathby Bridge. There were a few attempts to get money from the millenium fund to replace it but it never happend. TBH it's strong enough for the traffic and it's not a very busy road so the lights aren't a problem either. Less so since the 2005 flood and they replaced the simple timed sequence set with ones with microwave senors Spanish? to detect vechicles still on the bridge(*) and approaching stuff. :-) -- Frank Erskine |
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