We have recently moved house and currently have an open fireplace -
something we didn't have before. Our cats are very interested in the
opening and on one occasion one of the cats ran up the chimney - in fright -
and it was a few hours before she finally emerged...filthy!
We are not going to use the fireplace for an open fire and would like to
block off the opening. Does anyone have any experience of chimney balloons
as we have heard that these are quite effective?

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:05:13 -0000, "Jo" wrote:

Does anyone have any experience of chimney balloons
as we have heard that these are quite effective?

A pile of newspaper scrunched up the chimney stopped our intrepid
explorers (one of whom was once spotted with his head out of the
chimney looking around quite casually).

"Jo" wrote in message
...
We have recently moved house and currently have an open fireplace -
something we didn't have before. Our cats are very interested in the
opening and on one occasion one of the cats ran up the chimney - in
fright - and it was a few hours before she finally emerged...filthy!
We are not going to use the fireplace for an open fire and would like to
block off the opening. Does anyone have any experience of chimney
balloons as we have heard that these are quite effective?


Scrunched up ball of 'chicken' wire pushed up a little way ?

Arfa

Arfa Daily wrote:
"Jo" wrote in message
...
We have recently moved house and currently have an open fireplace -
something we didn't have before. Our cats are very interested in the
opening and on one occasion one of the cats ran up the chimney - in
fright - and it was a few hours before she finally emerged...filthy!
We are not going to use the fireplace for an open fire and would like to
block off the opening. Does anyone have any experience of chimney
balloons as we have heard that these are quite effective?


Scrunched up ball of 'chicken' wire pushed up a little way ?

Arfa


whilst there should be a little ventilation to dry out rain inside the
chimney,
wide open chimneys are a huge heatloss in a house.
[g]

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:05:13 -0000, "Jo" wrote:

Does anyone have any experience of chimney balloons
as we have heard that these are quite effective?


We've had 3 chimney balloons for around 4 years.

They work well, easy to fit, simple to take out when you want to use
the chimney for proper fires and easy to put back again afterwards.
They stop a lot of heat loss and when inflated properly according to
the instructions they do allow for ventilation.

I'm sure you could achieve a similar thing using newspaper etc but for
the cost, they're handy, no fuss and quick and simple to use and
reuse. I'd buy them again if I needed more.

I'm Not sure if cats claws would burst them though, they are quite
tough but I'm not sure. We've got 3 cats but none of them have ever
been up a chimney!

--
suphi

Jo wrote:

Does anyone have any experience of chimney balloons


Yes.

as we have heard that these are quite effective?

Are you not sure that you heard it?

Anyway whoever told you that was a downright liar. They are a pointless
waste of time and money. If you get a good strong wind as we have today
you will find the balloon being sucked up the chimney. And you will have
to re-inflate them far too often.

I you're closing a fireplace (mad option IMO) then do so properly. Have
it capped with adequate ventilation arranged at the time and have the
opening blocked off.

Better IMO to have enclosed stoves or to have an inset with a glazed
door. That stops the cats getting into the fireplace and also makes use
of them.

"Arfa Daily" wrote in message
...

"Jo" wrote in message
...
We have recently moved house and currently have an open fireplace -
something we didn't have before. Our cats are very interested in the
opening and on one occasion one of the cats ran up the chimney - in
fright - and it was a few hours before she finally emerged...filthy!
We are not going to use the fireplace for an open fire and would like to
block off the opening. Does anyone have any experience of chimney
balloons as we have heard that these are quite effective?


Scrunched up ball of 'chicken' wire pushed up a little way ?

Arfa

Santa will love that when his arse hits it.

Adam

In message , Steve Firth
writes
Jo wrote:

Does anyone have any experience of chimney balloons

as we have heard that these are quite effective?

Are you not sure that you heard it?

Anyway whoever told you that was a downright liar. They are a pointless
waste of time and money. If you get a good strong wind as we have today
you will find the balloon being sucked up the chimney. And you will have
to re-inflate them far too often.

I you're closing a fireplace (mad option IMO) then do so properly. Have
it capped with adequate ventilation arranged at the time and have the
opening blocked off.

Better IMO to have enclosed stoves or to have an inset with a glazed
door. That stops the cats getting into the fireplace and also makes use
of them.

To effect a temporary but acceptable solution we simply shaped a piece
of decorated cardboard into the opening. It allows a small amount of
ventilation, no feline ingress and is easily removed when we wish to use
the fire.

--
postmaster @ stejonda

On 13 Nov, 21:05, "Jo" wrote:
We have recently moved house and currently have an open fireplace -
something we didn't have before. *Our cats are very interested in the
opening and on one occasion one of the cats ran up the chimney - in fright -
and it was a few hours before she finally emerged...filthy!
We are not going to use the fireplace for an open fire and would like to
block off the opening. *Does anyone have any experience of chimney balloons
as we have heard that these are quite effective?

Daer Jo

Pillow (old) wrapped in polythene or the like or better still fire
blanket in case some idiot lights a fire

Chris

Well if your looking to just stop the little critters from getting up
there then I would say a chimney balloon would do the trick. I use one
to keep bats from comming down my flue and I imagine it will work in
reverse.
You could go with the glass door or inserts with doors that were
mentioned but that is a pretty steep investment if you are just trying
to keep cats out. Personally i dont use my fireplace so i chose a
chimney balloon because it went in easy and kept the bats out. I do
suppose there is some energy benefit to it to though.
I suppose the DIY route may work by going with newspaper or wire
(although i just cant envision how the wire ball trick works). I
wouldnt go with the bed pilllow trick though. If some idiot lights a
fire under that you will have a smokey burnt duck smelling mess with
of without a fire blanket.

"ARWadsworth" wrote in message
...

"Arfa Daily" wrote in message
...

"Jo" wrote in message
...
We have recently moved house and currently have an open fireplace -
something we didn't have before. Our cats are very interested in the
opening and on one occasion one of the cats ran up the chimney - in
fright - and it was a few hours before she finally emerged...filthy!
We are not going to use the fireplace for an open fire and would like to
block off the opening. Does anyone have any experience of chimney
balloons as we have heard that these are quite effective?


Scrunched up ball of 'chicken' wire pushed up a little way ?

Arfa

Santa will love that when his arse hits it.

Adam

Hazard of the job, I reckon ... d;~}

Arfa

On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 13:03:21 +0000, Suphi wrote:

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:05:13 -0000, "Jo" wrote:

Does anyone have any experience of chimney balloons
as we have heard that these are quite effective?


We've had 3 chimney balloons for around 4 years.

They work well, easy to fit, simple to take out when you want to use
the chimney for proper fires and easy to put back again afterwards.
They stop a lot of heat loss and when inflated properly according to
the instructions they do allow for ventilation.

I'm sure you could achieve a similar thing using newspaper etc but for
the cost, they're handy, no fuss and quick and simple to use and
reuse. I'd buy them again if I needed more.

I'm Not sure if cats claws would burst them though, they are quite
tough but I'm not sure. We've got 3 cats but none of them have ever
been up a chimney!


I used a bit of that recycled-plastic-bottle insulation B&Q do that's a
bit like fibreglass & rockwool but not itchy and harder to tear or cut.
Rolled a bit up and stuffed it up the open flues. Reckon it allows
ventilation to clear damp but stops much heatloss due to the chimney
effect. Also stops soot coming down & cats giong up :-)

--
John Stumbles

I can't stand intolerance

John Stumbles wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 13:03:21 +0000, Suphi wrote:

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:05:13 -0000, "Jo" wrote:

Does anyone have any experience of chimney balloons
as we have heard that these are quite effective?

We've had 3 chimney balloons for around 4 years.

They work well, easy to fit, simple to take out when you want to use
the chimney for proper fires and easy to put back again afterwards.
They stop a lot of heat loss and when inflated properly according to
the instructions they do allow for ventilation.

I'm sure you could achieve a similar thing using newspaper etc but for
the cost, they're handy, no fuss and quick and simple to use and
reuse. I'd buy them again if I needed more.

I'm Not sure if cats claws would burst them though, they are quite
tough but I'm not sure. We've got 3 cats but none of them have ever
been up a chimney!


I used a bit of that recycled-plastic-bottle insulation B&Q do that's a
bit like fibreglass & rockwool but not itchy and harder to tear or cut.
Rolled a bit up and stuffed it up the open flues. Reckon it allows
ventilation to clear damp but stops much heatloss due to the chimney
effect. Also stops soot coming down & cats giong up :-)


I suppose that's ok if it's wrapped in a plastic bag, but most
insulation products retain masses of water, hence their use in horticulture

On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:39:08 +0000, Stuart Noble wrote:

I suppose that's ok if it's wrapped in a plastic bag, but most
insulation products retain masses of water, hence their use in horticulture

I deliberately didn't wrap it in plastic because I want it to be
breathable so that any water that comes down the chimney dries out and
there's a path for water vapour and a slight flow of air to pass through
it, but without a heat-sapping chimney draught.

--
John Stumbles

A stitch in time saves nine. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

We have recently moved house and currently have an open fireplace -
something we didn't have before. Our cats are very interested in the
opening and on one occasion one of the cats ran up the chimney - in
fright - and it was a few hours before she finally emerged...filthy!
We are not going to use the fireplace for an open fire and would like to
block off the opening. Does anyone have any experience of chimney
balloons as we have heard that these are quite effective?

A problem with the one we had was rain. It was in a bedroom fireplace with a
clear view to the sky and in heavy rain some came down the chimney and
produced a very loud drumming noise. This was eventually solved with a disc
of plywood in the chimney top which needed a roof expedition.

The balloon would fall out every so often and after ten plus years got a
slow puncture. It has been replaced with a bin bag full of bubble wrap.

John Stumbles wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:39:08 +0000, Stuart Noble wrote:

I suppose that's ok if it's wrapped in a plastic bag, but most
insulation products retain masses of water, hence their use in horticulture

I deliberately didn't wrap it in plastic because I want it to be
breathable so that any water that comes down the chimney dries out and
there's a path for water vapour and a slight flow of air to pass through
it, but without a heat-sapping chimney draught.


I might be concerned that the insulation would hold on to the moisture.
Rockwool behaves like a sponge where water's concerned

On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 14:23:24 +0000, (Steve Firth)
wrote:

Anyway whoever told you that was a downright liar. They are a pointless
waste of time and money. If you get a good strong wind as we have today
you will find the balloon being sucked up the chimney. And you will have
to re-inflate them far too often.

That doesn't seem to happen, our bedroom one has been in situ for 5
years and only needed re-inflating once, the dining room & living room
ballons get removed either when there's a longish power cut, at xmas
time - last time was last December and they're both still inflated
and in place. We've never had a balloon get sucked up a chimney
despite the storms we've had and living a rather windy part of the
Cotswolds.

Granted, there are a lot of windier part of the UK but they work here.
The ability to removed them and put them back eaily has been
invaluable given that we live in a village that seems to have a third
world power supply and can be without electricity (to power the pump
on the gas boiler) for 12 hours or more 3 or 4 times a year.

Obviously there are a lot of cheaper ways of doing this, but the
balloons do work and are convenient.

I you're closing a fireplace (mad option IMO) then do so properly. Have
it capped with adequate ventilation arranged at the time and have the
opening blocked off.

Better IMO to have enclosed stoves or to have an inset with a glazed
door. That stops the cats getting into the fireplace and also makes use
of them.

It's a lovely idea but the cost of doing that for 3 openings vs £20
for the balloons, just wasn't do-able at the time. Our main living
room fire-place *will* have a stove in a year or so when we get around
to that room, but given the cost of the balloons they've been a useful
stop-gap (literally!). Sometimes you just have to work with what
you've got until you can get what you want.

On Nov 20, 7:09*am, Suphi wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 14:23:24 +0000, (Steve Firth)
wrote:

Anyway whoever told you that was a downright liar. They are a pointless
waste of time and money. If you get a good strong wind as we have today
you will find the balloon being sucked up the chimney. And you will have
to re-inflate them far too often.

That doesn't seem to happen, *our bedroom one has been in situ for 5
years and only needed re-inflating once, the dining room & living room
ballons get removed either when there's a longish power cut, at xmas
time *- last time was last December and they're both still inflated
and in place. We've never had a balloon get sucked up a chimney
despite the storms we've had and *living a rather windy part of the
Cotswolds.

Granted, there are a lot of windier part of the UK but they work here.
The ability to removed them and put them back eaily has been
invaluable given that we live in a village that seems to have a third
world power supply and can be without electricity (to power the pump
on the gas boiler) for 12 hours or more 3 or 4 times a year.

Obviously there are a lot of cheaper ways of doing this, but the
balloons do work and are convenient.

I you're closing a fireplace (mad option IMO) then do so properly. Have
it capped with adequate ventilation arranged at the time and have the
opening blocked off.

Better IMO to have enclosed stoves or to have an inset with a glazed
door. That stops the cats getting into the fireplace and also makes use
of them.

It's a lovely idea but the cost of doing that for 3 openings vs £20
for the balloons, just wasn't do-able at the time. Our main living
room fire-place *will* have a stove in a year or so when we get around
to that room, but given the cost of the balloons they've been a useful
stop-gap (literally!). Sometimes you just have to work with what
you've got until you can get what you want.

The Fireplace Plug is a clean alternative - no need to get covered
with soot when installing the plug as it is quickly installed below
the damper as opposed to up in the chimney. Available for about $50
from www.batticdoor.com

Mark D. wrote:
On Nov 20, 7:09 am, Suphi wrote:
It's a lovely idea but the cost of doing that for 3 openings vs £20
for the balloons, just wasn't do-able at the time. Our main living
room fire-place *will* have a stove in a year or so when we get
around to that room, but given the cost of the balloons they've been
a useful stop-gap (literally!). Sometimes you just have to work with
what you've got until you can get what you want.

The Fireplace Plug is a clean alternative - no need to get covered
with soot when installing the plug as it is quickly installed below
the damper as opposed to up in the chimney. Available for about $50
from www.batticdoor.com

So, more expensive and they don't ship to the UK. Great find!

Tim

Tim wrote:
Mark D. wrote:
The Fireplace Plug is a clean alternative - no need to get covered
with soot when installing the plug as it is quickly installed below
the damper as opposed to up in the chimney. Available for about $50
from www.batticdoor.com

So, more expensive and they don't ship to the UK. Great find!

Oops! You do ship to the UK. Still can't imagine there will be that many
takers.

Tim

"Tim" wrote in message
...
Mark D. wrote:
On Nov 20, 7:09 am, Suphi wrote:
It's a lovely idea but the cost of doing that for 3 openings vs £20
for the balloons, just wasn't do-able at the time. Our main living
room fire-place *will* have a stove in a year or so when we get
around to that room, but given the cost of the balloons they've been
a useful stop-gap (literally!). Sometimes you just have to work with
what you've got until you can get what you want.

The Fireplace Plug is a clean alternative - no need to get covered
with soot when installing the plug as it is quickly installed below
the damper as opposed to up in the chimney. Available for about $50
from www.batticdoor.com

So, more expensive and they don't ship to the UK. Great find!

Tim


I don't think he found it:
"Mark D."

mark

The message
from "Mark D." contains these words:


The Fireplace Plug is a clean alternative - no need to get covered
with soot when installing the plug as it is quickly installed below
the damper as opposed to up in the chimney. Available for about $50
from www.batticdoor.com

Perhaps less appropriate for many UK fireplaces which don't have any
damper like American ones to -- I can see it simply going up into the
smokeshelf area and doing nothing useful there.

And if you do have a damper and a handle sticking down in the way how
are you suppose to get that trick to work? I don't get it.

The message

from 69tbird contains these words:

And if you do have a damper and a handle sticking down in the way how
are you suppose to get that trick to work? I don't get it.

They're designed for an American-style damper which closes off the flue
and is operated by a chain which comes through a tube in the front of
hte fireplace above the fire opening.

I've found an alternative which is much simpler to use than the chimney balloon and you can take it in and out as often as you want so you get the best of all worlds.

The chimney sheep is a felt disk that blocks the flue just above the throat - simple and clever.

Google chimney sheep or type
www.chimneysheep.co.uk

On 25/08/12 11:41, wrote:
I've found an alternative which is much simpler to use than the chimney balloon and you can take it in and out as often as you want so you get the best of all worlds.

The chimney sheep is a felt disk that blocks the flue just above the throat - simple and clever.

Google chimney sheep or type
www.chimneysheep.co.uk

If you want to advertise your product why not just do it openly? Do you
really think we were all born yesterday?

In message ,
writes
I've found an alternative which is much simpler to use than the chimney
balloon and you can take it in and out as often as you want so you get
the best of all worlds.

The chimney sheep is a felt disk that blocks the flue just above the
throat - simple and clever.

Google chimney sheep or type
www.chimneysheep.co.uk

Nothing to do with you, I presume, you spamming ****

**** off with your commercial; advertising

--
geoff

In message , pcb1962
writes
On 25/08/12 11:41, wrote:
I've found an alternative which is much simpler to use than the
chimney balloon and you can take it in and out as often as you want so
you get the best of all worlds.

The chimney sheep is a felt disk that blocks the flue just above the
throat - simple and clever.

Google chimney sheep or type
www.chimneysheep.co.uk

If you want to advertise your product why not just do it openly?

Somewhere else ...

Do you really think we were all born yesterday?


I don't suppose he has the brains for such advanced concepts

--
geoff

"Zapp Brannigan" wrote in message
...

Now reduced to sleazy spamming. I wonder if
knows that her web monkey is offending her potential customers? Perhaps
someone will mention it on their facebook page.

I wonder how much better they are than the old practice of rolling up some
mineral wool and stuffing that up the chimney?
At least mineral wool doesn't rot like felt.

On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 12:45:52 +0100, Zapp Brannigan wrote:

wrote in message
...
I've found an alternative which is much simpler to use than the chimney
balloon and you can take it in and out as often as you want so you get
the best of all worlds.

Red Raven - A contemporary design and creative computing practice based
in Cockermouth, Cumbria. Specialising in architecture, website design
and 3-dimensional visualisation for the architectural profession.
(www.pageinsider.com/redraven.net)

Now reduced to sleazy spamming. I wonder if
knows that her web monkey is offending her potential customers?
Perhaps someone will mention it on their facebook page.

Done.



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http://www.mirrorservice.org

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On Saturday, August 25, 2012 1:37:30 PM UTC+1, Bob Eager wrote:
On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 12:45:52 +0100, Zapp Brannigan wrote:



wrote in message

...

I've found an alternative which is much simpler to use than the chimney

balloon and you can take it in and out as often as you want so you get

the best of all worlds.



Red Raven - A contemporary design and creative computing practice based

in Cockermouth, Cumbria. Specialising in architecture, website design

and 3-dimensional visualisation for the architectural profession.

(www.pageinsider.com/redraven.net)



Now reduced to sleazy spamming. I wonder if

knows that her web monkey is offending her potential customers?

Perhaps someone will mention it on their facebook page.



Done.







--

Use the BIG mirror service in the UK:

http://www.mirrorservice.org



*lightning protection* - a w_tom conductor

Crickey.All I wanted to do was let people know of something I use!Sorry to be helpful.

In message ,
writes

I've found an alternative which is much simpler to use than the chimney

balloon and you can take it in and out as often as you want so you get

the best of all worlds.



Red Raven - A contemporary design and creative computing practice based

in Cockermouth, Cumbria. Specialising in architecture, website design

and 3-dimensional visualisation for the architectural profession.

(www.pageinsider.com/redraven.net)



Now reduced to sleazy spamming. I wonder if

knows that her web monkey is offending her potential customers?

Perhaps someone will mention it on their facebook page.

Use the BIG mirror service in the UK:

http://www.mirrorservice.org



*lightning protection* - a w_tom conductor

Crickey.All I wanted to do was let people know of something I use!Sorry
to be helpful.

So - never posted here before and you suddenly come up with a solution
to a question that nobody asked out of the blue ...

Yeah, right

do we look that stupid?






--
geoff

On Friday, November 13, 2009 9:05:13 PM UTC, Jo wrote:
We have recently moved house and currently have an open fireplace -
something we didn't have before. Our cats are very interested in the
opening and on one occasion one of the cats ran up the chimney - in fright -
and it was a few hours before she finally emerged...filthy!
We are not going to use the fireplace for an open fire and would like to
block off the opening. Does anyone have any experience of chimney balloons
as we have heard that these are quite effective?

The internet is strange place indeed!

Well done for lowering the tone of a valuable debate about heat loss through chimney stacks. As someone that works primarily in the building industry (not a web monkey!)finding simple solutions to old problems such as heat loss up flues is useful to everyone. A forum is about sharing information - thats all I did.

Again sorry to be helpful!

On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 06:42:33 -0700, darrenward wrote:

On Saturday, August 25, 2012 1:37:30 PM UTC+1, Bob Eager wrote:
On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 12:45:52 +0100, Zapp Brannigan wrote:



wrote in message

...

I've found an alternative which is much simpler to use than the
chimney

balloon and you can take it in and out as often as you want so you
get

the best of all worlds.



Red Raven - A contemporary design and creative computing practice
based

in Cockermouth, Cumbria. Specialising in architecture, website design

and 3-dimensional visualisation for the architectural profession.

(www.pageinsider.com/redraven.net)



Now reduced to sleazy spamming. I wonder if

knows that her web monkey is offending her potential customers?

Perhaps someone will mention it on their facebook page.



Done.







--

Use the BIG mirror service in the UK:

http://www.mirrorservice.org



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Crickey.All I wanted to do was let people know of something I use!Sorry
to be helpful.

Can you confirm that Chimney Balloons is not one of your customers?



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On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 14:15:24 +0000, Bob Eager wrote:

On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 06:42:33 -0700, darrenward wrote:

On Saturday, August 25, 2012 1:37:30 PM UTC+1, Bob Eager wrote:
On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 12:45:52 +0100, Zapp Brannigan wrote:



wrote in message

...

I've found an alternative which is much simpler to use than the
chimney

balloon and you can take it in and out as often as you want so you
get

the best of all worlds.



Red Raven - A contemporary design and creative computing practice
based

in Cockermouth, Cumbria. Specialising in architecture, website
design

and 3-dimensional visualisation for the architectural profession.

(www.pageinsider.com/redraven.net)



Now reduced to sleazy spamming. I wonder if


knows that her web monkey is offending her potential customers?

Perhaps someone will mention it on their facebook page.



Done.







--

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http://www.mirrorservice.org



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Crickey.All I wanted to do was let people know of something I use!Sorry
to be helpful.

Can you confirm that Chimney Balloons is not one of your customers?

I meant Chimney Sheep, of the same town as Red Raven, of course.



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On 25/08/12 15:11, wrote:
On Friday, November 13, 2009 9:05:13 PM UTC, Jo wrote:
We have recently moved house and currently have an open fireplace -
something we didn't have before. Our cats are very interested in the
opening and on one occasion one of the cats ran up the chimney - in fright -
and it was a few hours before she finally emerged...filthy!
We are not going to use the fireplace for an open fire and would like to
block off the opening. Does anyone have any experience of chimney balloons
as we have heard that these are quite effective?

The internet is strange place indeed!

Well done for lowering the tone of a valuable debate about heat loss through chimney stacks. As someone that works primarily in the building industry (not a web monkey!)finding simple solutions to old problems such as heat loss up flues is useful to everyone. A forum is about sharing information - thats all I did.

Again sorry to be helpful!

Did you notice the date on that discussion? November 13, 2009.
So you didn't just stumble upon a 'debate about heat loss through
chimney stacks', you actively searched for it so that you could add your
spam.
Keep digging, we've seen it all before, hundreds of times.

On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 12:22:02 +0100, geoff wrote:

In message , pcb1962
writes
On 25/08/12 11:41, wrote:
I've found an alternative which is much simpler to use than the
chimney balloon and you can take it in and out as often as you want so
you get the best of all worlds.

The chimney sheep is a felt disk that blocks the flue just above the
throat - simple and clever.

Google chimney sheep or type
www.chimneysheep.co.uk

If you want to advertise your product why not just do it openly?

Somewhere else ...

Do you really think we were all born yesterday?


I don't suppose he has the brains for such advanced concepts

Chimney Sheep are maintaining that Darren is nothing but a satisfied
customer who happens to be in the same area and uses the same ISP.

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In message , Bob Eager
writes
On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 12:22:02 +0100, geoff wrote:

In message , pcb1962
writes
On 25/08/12 11:41, wrote:
I've found an alternative which is much simpler to use than the
chimney balloon and you can take it in and out as often as you want so
you get the best of all worlds.

The chimney sheep is a felt disk that blocks the flue just above the
throat - simple and clever.

Google chimney sheep or type
www.chimneysheep.co.uk

If you want to advertise your product why not just do it openly?

Somewhere else ...

Do you really think we were all born yesterday?


I don't suppose he has the brains for such advanced concepts

Chimney Sheep are maintaining that Darren is nothing but a satisfied
customer who happens to be in the same area and uses the same ISP.

Of course ...

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geoff

On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 07:11:58 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

Well done for lowering the tone of a valuable debate about heat loss through chimney stacks.

**** off, you spamming ******.

On Saturday, August 25, 2012 3:15:24 PM UTC+1, Bob Eager wrote:
On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 06:42:33 -0700, darrenward wrote:



On Saturday, August 25, 2012 1:37:30 PM UTC+1, Bob Eager wrote:

On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 12:45:52 +0100, Zapp Brannigan wrote:







darrenwardredraven.net wrote in message



...



I've found an alternative which is much simpler to use than the

chimney



balloon and you can take it in and out as often as you want so you

get



the best of all worlds.







Red Raven - A contemporary design and creative computing practice

based



in Cockermouth, Cumbria. Specialising in architecture, website design



and 3-dimensional visualisation for the architectural profession.



(www.pageinsider.com/redraven.net)







Now reduced to sleazy spamming. I wonder if



knows that her web monkey is offending her potential customers?



Perhaps someone will mention it on their facebook page.







Done.















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Use the BIG mirror service in the UK:



http://www.mirrorservice.org







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Crickey.All I wanted to do was let people know of something I use!Sorry

to be helpful.



Can you confirm that Chimney Balloons is not one of your customers?







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Use the BIG mirror service in the UK:

http://www.mirrorservice.org



*lightning protection* - a w_tom conductor

Yes I can confirm neither Chimney Balloon or Chimney Sheep are my customers.. I can also confirm I am a customer OF Chimney Sheep. And yes I come from the same very small town of Cockermouth hence why the ISP is the same.

To be accused by some on here of bringing the tone down is a little rich when you see the school yard unjustified insults hurled about... and most of the worst seem to come from anonymous posters unlike my posts which are clearly traceable - why would I use my own business email if I wasn't genuine.

Well done for ruining what was a useful forum.