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Mike Tomlinson November 8th 09 10:41 AM

Numpty question: screw-on connectors
 

I moved into this flat a couple of years ago. At the time of looking
around pre-purchase I noted the amount of cables coming in through
(well, past) the windows but forgot to ask the previous occupant about
them. They're terminated in a mixture of Belling-Lee and F connectors
and are, of course, all unlabelled.

In the bedroom I have two downleads ending in Belling-Lee which both
carry what seems to be a good aerial signal. At least I can plug either
into a STB and get a good signal and all the muxes and channels. (Why
would someone have two aerials into one room?) One is at one end of the
bay, the other's at t'other.

I haven't yet gone out to look at the aerials on the roof. Will need a
pair of binocs, I think - they're on a tall Victorian semi which is
built-up on a high surface.

The installation appears to be of good workmanship - the downleads are
CT100 cable (marked "Eagle 100U coaxial cable") with braid and foil.
The cables are terminated in metal screw-on Belling-Lee connectors.

Unfortunately I made a a mistake in tugging on the cable instead of the
connector and predictably it pulled out of the connector body. When I
come to re-fit it, is it usual to screw the connector body onto the
cable outer, or just on the inner plastic core/foil/braid mix up to
where the outer insulation's been cut away?

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-[_2_] November 8th 09 10:58 AM

Numpty question: screw-on connectors
 

"Mike Tomlinson" wrote in message
...

I moved into this flat a couple of years ago. At the time of looking
around pre-purchase I noted the amount of cables coming in through
(well, past) the windows but forgot to ask the previous occupant about
them. They're terminated in a mixture of Belling-Lee and F connectors
and are, of course, all unlabelled.

In the bedroom I have two downleads ending in Belling-Lee which both
carry what seems to be a good aerial signal. At least I can plug either
into a STB and get a good signal and all the muxes and channels. (Why
would someone have two aerials into one room?) One is at one end of the
bay, the other's at t'other.

I haven't yet gone out to look at the aerials on the roof. Will need a
pair of binocs, I think - they're on a tall Victorian semi which is
built-up on a high surface.

The installation appears to be of good workmanship - the downleads are
CT100 cable (marked "Eagle 100U coaxial cable") with braid and foil.
The cables are terminated in metal screw-on Belling-Lee connectors.

Unfortunately I made a a mistake in tugging on the cable instead of the
connector and predictably it pulled out of the connector body. When I
come to re-fit it, is it usual to screw the connector body onto the
cable outer, or just on the inner plastic core/foil/braid mix up to
where the outer insulation's been cut away?

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You don't make it clear whether the connector you're trying to refit is a
belling lee or an F connector. Whichever one it is, have a look at the same
connector on another cable and do it like this. Saying that though, if it
fell out when you pulled it, it wasn't done properly in the first place.


Usenet Nutter November 8th 09 12:16 PM

Numpty question: screw-on connectors
 
On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:41:20 +0000, Mike Tomlinson
wrote:
snipped
In the bedroom I have two downleads ending in Belling-Lee which both
carry what seems to be a good aerial signal. At least I can plug either
into a STB and get a good signal and all the muxes and channels. (Why
would someone have two aerials into one room?) One is at one end of the
bay, the other's at t'other.

snipped

I have a bay window and the TV aerial comes in at one side and the sat
cable comes in the other side so I have one cable or t'other cable
trailing across the floor but even if they both came in the one side
moving the TV to the other side of the room would mean a cable
trailing across so maybe that's why the previous occupants dit it this
way .
My intention is to get /build some form of trunking around the floor
of the bay to take the cables and hide them .

Bigguy November 8th 09 01:01 PM

Numpty question: screw-on connectors
 
Mike Tomlinson wrote:
I moved into this flat a couple of years ago. At the time of looking
around pre-purchase I noted the amount of cables coming in through
(well, past) the windows but forgot to ask the previous occupant about
them. They're terminated in a mixture of Belling-Lee and F connectors
and are, of course, all unlabelled.

In the bedroom I have two downleads ending in Belling-Lee which both
carry what seems to be a good aerial signal. At least I can plug either
into a STB and get a good signal and all the muxes and channels. (Why
would someone have two aerials into one room?) One is at one end of the
bay, the other's at t'other.

I haven't yet gone out to look at the aerials on the roof. Will need a
pair of binocs, I think - they're on a tall Victorian semi which is
built-up on a high surface.

The installation appears to be of good workmanship - the downleads are
CT100 cable (marked "Eagle 100U coaxial cable") with braid and foil.
The cables are terminated in metal screw-on Belling-Lee connectors.

Unfortunately I made a a mistake in tugging on the cable instead of the
connector and predictably it pulled out of the connector body. When I
come to re-fit it, is it usual to screw the connector body onto the
cable outer, or just on the inner plastic core/foil/braid mix up to
where the outer insulation's been cut away?

Generally speaking F types are screwed onto the whole cable plus the
folded back braid.

A bit of Vaseline or silicon grease helps if they're tight.


Guy

housetrained November 8th 09 02:09 PM

Numpty question: screw-on connectors
 
"Bigguy" wrote in message
...
Mike Tomlinson wrote:
I moved into this flat a couple of years ago. At the time of looking
around pre-purchase I noted the amount of cables coming in through
(well, past) the windows but forgot to ask the previous occupant about
them. They're terminated in a mixture of Belling-Lee and F connectors
and are, of course, all unlabelled.

In the bedroom I have two downleads ending in Belling-Lee which both
carry what seems to be a good aerial signal. At least I can plug either
into a STB and get a good signal and all the muxes and channels. (Why
would someone have two aerials into one room?) One is at one end of the
bay, the other's at t'other.

I haven't yet gone out to look at the aerials on the roof. Will need a
pair of binocs, I think - they're on a tall Victorian semi which is
built-up on a high surface.

The installation appears to be of good workmanship - the downleads are
CT100 cable (marked "Eagle 100U coaxial cable") with braid and foil.
The cables are terminated in metal screw-on Belling-Lee connectors.

Unfortunately I made a a mistake in tugging on the cable instead of the
connector and predictably it pulled out of the connector body. When I
come to re-fit it, is it usual to screw the connector body onto the
cable outer, or just on the inner plastic core/foil/braid mix up to
where the outer insulation's been cut away?

Generally speaking F types are screwed onto the whole cable plus the
folded back braid.

A bit of Vaseline or silicon grease helps if they're tight.


Guy


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widgitt November 8th 09 02:33 PM

Numpty question: screw-on connectors
 
I think the type of connector which you have is a one piece screw on
co ax plug?
We use these all the time as they make a good contact and dont come
off easily.
(They are not that common though).

You need to treat them like F plugs. Strip cable as usual. Fold the
braiding back along over the outer of the cable. Don't forget to Kink
the inner wire a bit so it makes good contact in the inside of the
centre pin and then screw it on firmly. Of course it is better to
touch the tip of the pin and inner wire with solder afterwards but, to
be honest there is seldom time and kinking the inner wire makes an
adequate job.

widgitt November 8th 09 02:36 PM

Numpty question: screw-on connectors
 
Bu the way, it may be that the other cable is FM or DAB radio. Quite
often, if you are in a good reception area they both appear ok for TV
but one is really much better than the other. Have you got TV and
Radio aerials on the roof?

geoff November 8th 09 03:33 PM

Numpty question: screw-on connectors
 
In message , housetrained
writes
"Bigguy" wrote in message
...
Mike Tomlinson wrote:
I moved into this flat a couple of years ago. At the time of looking
around pre-purchase I noted the amount of cables coming in through
(well, past) the windows but forgot to ask the previous occupant about
them. They're terminated in a mixture of Belling-Lee and F connectors
and are, of course, all unlabelled.

In the bedroom I have two downleads ending in Belling-Lee which both
carry what seems to be a good aerial signal. At least I can plug either
into a STB and get a good signal and all the muxes and channels. (Why
would someone have two aerials into one room?) One is at one end of the
bay, the other's at t'other.

I haven't yet gone out to look at the aerials on the roof. Will need a
pair of binocs, I think - they're on a tall Victorian semi which is
built-up on a high surface.

The installation appears to be of good workmanship - the downleads are
CT100 cable (marked "Eagle 100U coaxial cable") with braid and foil.
The cables are terminated in metal screw-on Belling-Lee connectors.

Unfortunately I made a a mistake in tugging on the cable instead of the
connector and predictably it pulled out of the connector body. When I
come to re-fit it, is it usual to screw the connector body onto the
cable outer, or just on the inner plastic core/foil/braid mix up to
where the outer insulation's been cut away?

Generally speaking F types are screwed onto the whole cable plus the
folded back braid.

A bit of Vaseline or silicon grease helps if they're tight.


Guy


I swear by KY jelly


There's no substitute for proper foreplay


--
geoff

NT[_2_] November 8th 09 05:42 PM

Numpty question: screw-on connectors
 
On Nov 8, 10:41*am, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
I moved into this flat a couple of years ago. *At the time of looking
around pre-purchase I noted the amount of cables coming in through
(well, past) the windows but forgot to ask the previous occupant about
them. *They're terminated in a mixture of Belling-Lee and F connectors
and are, of course, all unlabelled.

In the bedroom I have two downleads ending in Belling-Lee which both
carry what seems to be a good aerial signal. *At least I can plug either
into a STB and get a good signal and all the muxes and channels. *(Why
would someone have two aerials into one room?) *One is at one end of the
bay, the other's at t'other.

I haven't yet gone out to look at the aerials on the roof. *Will need a
pair of binocs, I think - they're on a tall Victorian semi which is
built-up on a high surface.

The installation appears to be of good workmanship - the downleads are
CT100 cable (marked "Eagle 100U coaxial cable") with braid and foil.
The cables are terminated in metal screw-on Belling-Lee connectors.

Unfortunately I made a a mistake in tugging on the cable instead of the
connector and predictably it pulled out of the connector body. *When I
come to re-fit it, is it usual to screw the connector body onto the
cable outer, or just on the inner plastic core/foil/braid mix up to
where the outer insulation's been cut away?



Belling Lee connectors dont normally screw onto the cable, so I wonder
just what youve got. Post a pic?


NT

Usenet Nutter November 8th 09 05:46 PM

Numpty question: screw-on connectors
 
On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 09:42:58 -0800 (PST), NT
wrote:

On Nov 8, 10:41*am, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
I moved into this flat a couple of years ago. *At the time of looking
around pre-purchase I noted the amount of cables coming in through
(well, past) the windows but forgot to ask the previous occupant about
them. *They're terminated in a mixture of Belling-Lee and F connectors
and are, of course, all unlabelled.

In the bedroom I have two downleads ending in Belling-Lee which both
carry what seems to be a good aerial signal. *At least I can plug either
into a STB and get a good signal and all the muxes and channels. *(Why
would someone have two aerials into one room?) *One is at one end of the
bay, the other's at t'other.

I haven't yet gone out to look at the aerials on the roof. *Will need a
pair of binocs, I think - they're on a tall Victorian semi which is
built-up on a high surface.

The installation appears to be of good workmanship - the downleads are
CT100 cable (marked "Eagle 100U coaxial cable") with braid and foil.
The cables are terminated in metal screw-on Belling-Lee connectors.

Unfortunately I made a a mistake in tugging on the cable instead of the
connector and predictably it pulled out of the connector body. *When I
come to re-fit it, is it usual to screw the connector body onto the
cable outer, or just on the inner plastic core/foil/braid mix up to
where the outer insulation's been cut away?



Belling Lee connectors dont normally screw onto the cable, so I wonder
just what youve got. Post a pic?


NT


And will it match this ?
http://www.megalithia.com/elect/bellinglee/index.html

Mike Tomlinson November 8th 09 05:56 PM

Numpty question: screw-on connectors
 
In article
s.com, widgitt writes
I think the type of connector which you have is a one piece screw on
co ax plug?


Yes.

We use these all the time as they make a good contact and dont come
off easily.


This one did, but it wasn't screwed right onto the outer insulation.

You need to treat them like F plugs. Strip cable as usual. Fold the
braiding back along over the outer of the cable. Don't forget to Kink
the inner wire a bit so it makes good contact in the inside of the
centre pin and then screw it on firmly. Of course it is better to
touch the tip of the pin and inner wire with solder afterwards but, to
be honest there is seldom time and kinking the inner wire makes an
adequate job.


Many thanks.

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Mike Tomlinson November 8th 09 05:58 PM

Numpty question: screw-on connectors
 
In article
..com, widgitt writes
Bu the way, it may be that the other cable is FM or DAB radio. Quite
often, if you are in a good reception area they both appear ok for TV
but one is really much better than the other.


Ah, thanks.

Have you got TV and
Radio aerials on the roof?


Don't know. They are very high up and there's no room to see from a
distance (unless I want to get wet!) Was going to wander out with a pair
of binocs today but decided staying in and drinking beer was a more
profitable use of my time. :)

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Mike Tomlinson November 8th 09 05:58 PM

Numpty question: screw-on connectors
 
In article
..com, NT writes

Belling Lee connectors dont normally screw onto the cable, so I wonder
just what youve got. Post a pic?


No prob, let me get a round tuit.

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Kennedy McEwen November 8th 09 06:24 PM

Numpty question: screw-on connectors
 
In article , Mike Tomlinson
writes

Why
would someone have two aerials into one room?


You might well ask that, but when I moved into my current house two
years ago the lounge had:

8 Belling Lee points - all with good analogue & digital signals
3 F-type points - one actually connected to the dish, one to Virgin
cable and the other feeds into the loft, apparently to be linked to
another F-type in one of the bedrooms.
5 double power outlets
0 Telephone sockets

During redecorating this summer I found another active terrestrial TV
point - bringing the total to 9 - and a telephone point, hidden behind
an access panel to a soil pipe.

Why does anyone need 12 TV points in a single room? ;-)
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A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's ****ed.
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Bill[_35_] November 9th 09 02:26 AM

Numpty question: screw-on connectors
 
Have you got TV and
Radio aerials on the roof?


|Don't know. They are very high up and there's no room to see from a
distance (unless I want to get wet!) Was going to wander out with a pair
of binocs today but decided staying in and drinking beer was a more
profitable use of my time. :)

I'm glad SOMEONE'S got their priorities right.

Bill

Mike Tomlinson November 9th 09 06:59 AM

Numpty question: screw-on connectors
 
In article , Kennedy McEwen
writes

Why does anyone need 12 TV points in a single room? ;-)


God knows, but the phrase 'get a life' has never seemed more apposite.

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Mike Tomlinson November 9th 09 07:22 AM

Numpty question: screw-on connectors
 
In article
..com, NT writes

Belling Lee connectors dont normally screw onto the cable, so I wonder
just what youve got. Post a pic?


Very similar to ebay 350107455040 but better quality. The end you can't
see in the pic is threaded like an F connector.

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Mike Tomlinson November 9th 09 07:24 AM

Numpty question: screw-on connectors
 
In article , Usenet Nutter
writes

My intention is to get /build some form of trunking around the floor
of the bay to take the cables and hide them .


Fortunately the bigger bundle comes in on the side where I have the
telly. The other cable I'll hide in a similar fashion to yours -
there's a rad on that wall so it won't e too visible.

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Dave Liquorice[_2_] November 9th 09 07:46 AM

Numpty question: screw-on connectors
 
On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 06:59:48 +0000, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

Why does anyone need 12 TV points in a single room? ;-)


God knows, but the phrase 'get a life' has never seemed more apposite.


Depends on how many sources are in that room and how many of those
are put into the distribution system to be watchable else where in
the house.

Couple of sat boxes (watch different sat channels in different
places), DVD, BluRay, PVR, there's 5 plus incoming aerial(s) and
connections from the dish makes at least 8...

Though I got the impression that these 12 sockets were spread around
the room rather than in a "media center" corner. In which case built
in flexabilty for when The Powers can't decide on or want to change
the room layout. Far easier to flood the place with cable/outlets
when doing a major refurb than have to do it afterwards when the
decorations are finished. 4 sockets to each corner doesn't seem
excessive to me but is 16 outlets in total...

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Cheers
Dave.





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