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Its the time of year when all the mice come in from the fields. Some of
them end up in my attic. And as usual I went around and topped up the
mouse poison.

This year the stuff I got from B&Q (but made by Rentokil) looks to be a
grain coated in some kind of blue stuff, which I guess is the poison.
The stuff seems to be having little effect on the mice. Inspecting the
"food troughs" I have left around the attic I note that almost all the
grain as been eaten and I am left with a considerable pile of blue skins
or husks which was the coating from the grain.

Its remarkable, but I suspect I am feeding rather than poisoning my
mice.

Anybody else run into this sort of thing? Or any suggestions on where I
can get better mouse poison which actually works. I note that B&Q, and
Homebase are both selling rebranded versions of the blue coated grain
from Rentokil. I suspect that many other hardware stores are doing the
same, but I cant open and inspect their goods.
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Fergus McMenemie wrote:
Its the time of year when all the mice come in from the fields. Some of
them end up in my attic. And as usual I went around and topped up the
mouse poison.

This year the stuff I got from B&Q (but made by Rentokil) looks to be a
grain coated in some kind of blue stuff, which I guess is the poison.
The stuff seems to be having little effect on the mice. Inspecting the
"food troughs" I have left around the attic I note that almost all the
grain as been eaten and I am left with a considerable pile of blue skins
or husks which was the coating from the grain.

Its remarkable, but I suspect I am feeding rather than poisoning my
mice.

Anybody else run into this sort of thing? Or any suggestions on where I
can get better mouse poison which actually works. I note that B&Q, and
Homebase are both selling rebranded versions of the blue coated grain
from Rentokil. I suspect that many other hardware stores are doing the
same, but I cant open and inspect their goods.


I believe it takes time before they die in agony.
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Its the time of year when all the mice come in from the fields. Some of
them end up in my attic. And as usual I went around and topped up the
mouse poison.

This year the stuff I got from B&Q (but made by Rentokil) looks to be a
grain coated in some kind of blue stuff, which I guess is the poison.
The stuff seems to be having little effect on the mice. Inspecting the
"food troughs" I have left around the attic I note that almost all the
grain as been eaten and I am left with a considerable pile of blue skins
or husks which was the coating from the grain.

Its remarkable, but I suspect I am feeding rather than poisoning my
mice.

Anybody else run into this sort of thing? Or any suggestions on where I
can get better mouse poison which actually works. I note that B&Q, and
Homebase are both selling rebranded versions of the blue coated grain
from Rentokil. I suspect that many other hardware stores are doing the
same, but I cant open and inspect their goods.


I'd try scaring them away .... mice and rats do build up a resilience to
poisons but I've not seen any with ear defenders yet!

Try

http://www.primrose-london.co.uk/mou...Bb4wo dIxbLMQ


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why kill them? that do no harm.????????????????
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Fergus McMenemie wrote:
Its the time of year when all the mice come in from the fields. Some of
them end up in my attic. And as usual I went around and topped up the
mouse poison. This year the stuff I got from B&Q (but made by Rentokil)
looks to be a
grain coated in some kind of blue stuff, which I guess is the poison.
The stuff seems to be having little effect on the mice. Inspecting the
"food troughs" I have left around the attic I note that almost all the
grain as been eaten and I am left with a considerable pile of blue skins
or husks which was the coating from the grain.

Its remarkable, but I suspect I am feeding rather than poisoning my
mice.

Anybody else run into this sort of thing? Or any suggestions on where I
can get better mouse poison which actually works. I note that B&Q, and
Homebase are both selling rebranded versions of the blue coated grain
from Rentokil. I suspect that many other hardware stores are doing the
same, but I cant open and inspect their goods.


I believe it takes time before they die in agony.



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I'd try scaring them away .... mice and rats do build up a resilience to
poisons but I've not seen any with ear defenders yet!

Try

http://www.primrose-london.co.uk/mou...Bb4wo dIxbLMQ


I know a couple of people who have tried this sort of thing, and
they don't work. They do however really screw up your pets, and
your neighbours' pets, in spite of the instructions saying they
don't.

I'm also not certain that just because you can't hear a loud noise,
it isn't doing you any harm. I wouldn't have one in my house for
sure.

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Its the time of year when all the mice come in from the fields. Some of
them end up in my attic. And as usual I went around and topped up the
mouse poison.


Our trap is doing a busy trade at the moment. Conventional "Little Nipper".

Ok, it was a bit icky when the mouse was caught by the foot, and had dragged
the trap with it while it crawled to a hiding place, except the trap
wouldn't come. I was a bit worried that as I pulled the mouse out by said
foot that it might come off, but it didn't, and I was then able to dispatch
the creature by other means.

Currently baited with tesco value chocolate, melted onto the spike.


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Fergus McMenemie wrote:
Its the time of year when all the mice come in from the fields. Some
of them end up in my attic. And as usual I went around and topped up
the mouse poison.

This year the stuff I got from B&Q (but made by Rentokil) looks to
be a grain coated in some kind of blue stuff, which I guess is the
poison. The stuff seems to be having little effect on the mice.
Inspecting the "food troughs" I have left around the attic I note
that almost all the grain as been eaten and I am left with a
considerable pile of blue skins or husks which was the coating from
the grain. Its remarkable, but I suspect I am feeding rather than
poisoning my
mice.

Anybody else run into this sort of thing? Or any suggestions on
where I can get better mouse poison which actually works. I note
that B&Q, and Homebase are both selling rebranded versions of the
blue coated grain from Rentokil. I suspect that many other hardware
stores are doing the same, but I cant open and inspect their goods.


I believe it takes time before they die in agony.


they don't die in agony, they simply fall asleep and don't wake up

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Fergus McMenemie wrote:
Its the time of year when all the mice come in from the fields. Some
of them end up in my attic. And as usual I went around and topped up
the mouse poison.

This year the stuff I got from B&Q (but made by Rentokil) looks to be
a grain coated in some kind of blue stuff, which I guess is the
poison. The stuff seems to be having little effect on the mice.
Inspecting the "food troughs" I have left around the attic I note
that almost all the grain as been eaten and I am left with a
considerable pile of blue skins or husks which was the coating from
the grain.

Its remarkable, but I suspect I am feeding rather than poisoning my
mice.

Anybody else run into this sort of thing? Or any suggestions on where
I can get better mouse poison which actually works. I note that B&Q,
and Homebase are both selling rebranded versions of the blue coated
grain from Rentokil. I suspect that many other hardware stores are
doing the same, but I cant open and inspect their goods.


it takes a while for it to work on mice, usually 4-6 days.
All the blue coated poisons are identical, so don't waste your money on
rentokil stuff when B&Q's own value range is exactly the same.
They don't build up resistance to it because it robs their bodies of vitamin
K and they can't live without that.

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Fergus McMenemie wrote:
Its the time of year when all the mice come in from the fields. Some of
them end up in my attic. And as usual I went around and topped up the
mouse poison.


Go here
http://preview.tinyurl.com/ukgovpestadvice (www.naturalengland.org.uk)

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The stuff seems to be having little effect on the mice. Inspecting the
"food troughs" I have left around the attic I note that almost all the
grain as been eaten and I am left with a considerable pile of blue skins
or husks which was the coating from the grain.
Its remarkable, but I suspect I am feeding rather than poisoning my
mice.


The grain is dyed blue as a warning to humans. The poison is within the
grain. Don't worry about the husks, it's just that your mouse tribe don't
like the roughage

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On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:41:24 GMT, Phil L wrote:

I believe it takes time before they die in agony.


they don't die in agony, they simply fall asleep and don't wake up


Hum, the young rat that had (mistakenly) decided that living in our
house was better than the compost heap wouldn't agree with you. It
was not very happy after taking the poison we put down. Loud rasping
breathing, dragging itself slowly about. I put it out of its misery
with a blow to
the head.

They don't "simply fall asleep and don't wake up". They die from
multiple internal haemorrhages.

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On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:41:24 GMT, Phil L wrote:

I believe it takes time before they die in agony.


they don't die in agony, they simply fall asleep and don't wake up


Hum, the young rat that had (mistakenly) decided that living in our
house was better than the compost heap wouldn't agree with you. It
was not very happy after taking the poison we put down. Loud rasping
breathing, dragging itself slowly about. I put it out of its misery
with a blow to
the head.


It may have been ill before it ate the poison :-p


They don't "simply fall asleep and don't wake up". They die from
multiple internal haemorrhages.



They're usualy comatose before anything internal occurs

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Huge wrote:

To the OP: I use Neosorexa, which I buy in bulk from Farmrite. It's a mixture
of grains and reconstituted something, all coated blue. It appears to work. I
also use the plastic breakneck traps, baited with peanut butter (I'm told
that Nutella works better, but neither of us like it, so we don't normally
have any).


I've got a number of outbuildings where mice can be a real problem -
they ate the wiring in an old Land Rover a few years back. I also use
Neosorexa but it's becoming less effective and we've had notification
that "supermice" resistant to poison bate are proliferating in
Hampshire. What has worked well for us are electronic traps baited with
peanut butter, chocolate or nutella. The only headache is the frantic
rate at which we have to empty the traps at this time of year. The cat
is bloody useless, she just stares at the mice and frowns from time to
time.
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I'm also not certain that just because you can't hear a loud noise,
it isn't doing you any harm.

I'm fairly sure that if they're as loud as claimed then they will be
harming your hearing.
I wouldn't have one in my house for
sure.


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The grain is dyed blue as a warning to humans. The poison is within the
grain. Don't worry about the husks, it's just that your mouse tribe don't
like the roughage

So you're saying that they'll eventually die of terminal constipation?

Al.


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Phil L wrote:
Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:41:24 GMT, Phil L wrote:

I believe it takes time before they die in agony.
they don't die in agony, they simply fall asleep and don't wake up

Hum, the young rat that had (mistakenly) decided that living in our
house was better than the compost heap wouldn't agree with you. It
was not very happy after taking the poison we put down. Loud rasping
breathing, dragging itself slowly about. I put it out of its misery
with a blow to
the head.


It may have been ill before it ate the poison :-p

They don't "simply fall asleep and don't wake up". They die from
multiple internal haemorrhages.



They're usualy comatose before anything internal occurs

Dave's right, I looked the stuff up. It's related to Warfarin, and
interferes with vitamin K metabolism. This stuffs the clotting
reactions in the body, and the victim dies of internal bleeding. (yes,
that is the same Warfarin you take for heart problems - in smaller doses)


"the first population of warfarin-resistant brown rats (Rattus
norvegicus) being discovered in Scotland in 1958"... "Already in 1976
the first case of [coumarin] resistance was detected in UK where 6 of 72
brown rats from five farms survived a 6-day feeding
test" ... "The importance of resistance to the second-generation
anticoagulants may be indicated by the situation revealed in British
rodent surveys in 1970 and 1980: The proportion of rat-infested
farmsteads in Hampshire, where difenacoum had been the rodenticide of
choice since 1975, increased in this period from 45% to 95% (Greaves et
al. 1982c)."

Mogens Lund, "RESISTANCE TO THE SECOND-GENERATION ANTICOAGULANT
RODENTICIDES"

http://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/vi...&context=vpc11

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They don't "simply fall asleep and don't wake up". They die from
multiple internal haemorrhages.



They're usualy comatose before anything internal occurs


No reason they should be. Most rodent poison work by anticoagulating the
blood. It's not an anaesthetic or other central depressant.

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"Phil L" wrote in message
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Dave Liquorice wrote:


They don't "simply fall asleep and don't wake up". They die from
multiple internal haemorrhages.



They're usualy comatose before anything internal occurs


No reason they should be. Most rodent poison work by anticoagulating
the blood. It's not an anaesthetic or other central depressant.


That's awfully tough on the poor 'ole mice. Can't some 'happy pill'
content be added to send them out on a high?


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That's awfully tough on the poor 'ole mice. Can't some 'happy pill'
content be added to send them out on a high?

That's a really bad idea, if they get resistant to the poison you've
just created a huge black market in grain, there'll be gangs of mice
hanging out on corners around your house, one day you'll come home to
find that your home entertainment system and jewellery have been nicked
and fenced to the rats to pay for the mice's habit.



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That's awfully tough on the poor 'ole mice. Can't some 'happy pill'
content be added to send them out on a high?

That's a really bad idea, if they get resistant to the poison you've
just created a huge black market in grain, there'll be gangs of mice
hanging out on corners around your house, one day you'll come home to
find that your home entertainment system and jewellery have been nicked
and fenced to the rats to pay for the mice's habit.

....and those tarted up rodents hanging around waiting for some passing
customers



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...and those tarted up rodents hanging around waiting for some passing
customers


that's no way to refer to ex public sector employees!


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Tim Downie wrote:

"Phil L" wrote in message
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Dave Liquorice wrote:


They don't "simply fall asleep and don't wake up". They die from
multiple internal haemorrhages.


They're usualy comatose before anything internal occurs


No reason they should be. Most rodent poison work by anticoagulating
the blood. It's not an anaesthetic or other central depressant.


That's awfully tough on the poor 'ole mice. Can't some 'happy pill'
content be added to send them out on a high?


Visions of mice floating past, on LSD...

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