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Jon Connell October 10th 09 07:32 PM

Oak mouldings
 
I'm struggling to locate some oak mouldings for a grandfather clock. I
need a coving shape in white oak, around 50mm square, but the closest
I've got is much smaller mouldings or custom ones that people seem
unwilling to quote me on (probably because I only need 6 feet or so).
Does anyone know a supplier who will do small amounts of bespoke
mouldings or has something off-the-shelf that will do?

Cheers,

Jon

The Medway Handyman October 11th 09 12:01 AM

Oak mouldings
 
Jon Connell wrote:
I'm struggling to locate some oak mouldings for a grandfather clock. I
need a coving shape in white oak, around 50mm square, but the closest
I've got is much smaller mouldings or custom ones that people seem
unwilling to quote me on (probably because I only need 6 feet or so).
Does anyone know a supplier who will do small amounts of bespoke
mouldings or has something off-the-shelf that will do?


Do you have a router?


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk



Andy Dingley October 11th 09 12:33 AM

Oak mouldings
 
On 11 Oct, 00:01, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote:

Do you have a router?


Probably won't match. Assuming this is an old clock, those mouldings
were cut on a wooden-bodied hand moulding plane. Mouldings cut on a
router are ugly in comparison, from the limits of the tooling. You
have trouble getting sharp arrises (ridges), you certainly can't cut a
decent vee groove with a router.

Your best option is a wooden moulding plane. Many of them will match,
surprisingly well - many of the shapes were standards, even if you
need two planes in two passes to cut a complex moulding.

The practical option though is a scratch stock (JFGI). You make this
yourself, matching the profile in a piece of steel (old sawblade) and
then using a commercial (Stanley #66) or home made wooden holder.

Kevin Poole[_7_] October 11th 09 08:43 AM

Oak mouldings
 


John Rumm wrote:
Jon Connell wrote:
I'm struggling to locate some oak mouldings for a grandfather clock. I
need a coving shape in white oak, around 50mm square, but the closest
I've got is much smaller mouldings or custom ones that people seem
unwilling to quote me on (probably because I only need 6 feet or so).
Does anyone know a supplier who will do small amounts of bespoke
mouldings or has something off-the-shelf that will do?


Custom sized cove can be made on a table saw...


Radial arm saws work well, too, with easy control of arm angle and blade
-to-table height. I start with a length of oak board, say an inch or so
thick, form the concave moulding first, then rip both sides of the
moulding to a 45 degree chamfer. It's much easier to work with a
flat-backed moulding than one which started out as a square section,
uses less timber, and is almost certainly how the clock would have been
made originally.

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Kevin Poole
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Jon Connell October 11th 09 09:03 AM

Oak mouldings
 
On Oct 11, 12:01*am, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote:
Do you have a router?


Yes, but not a 1/2" one and a cutter large enough for this coving
would need to be 1/2" and they look quite pricey:

http://www.axminster.co.uk/product-C...tter-20981.htm

Jon

Jon Connell October 11th 09 09:09 AM

Oak mouldings
 
On Oct 11, 3:37*am, John Rumm wrote:
Custom sized cove can be made on a table saw...


Yeeeees... I've seen some howtos on doing that. It's my fallback at
the moment if I can't just buy some. I have enough work to do with the
clock I'm making without doing that.

At some point I'm probably also going to want to get something along
the lines of this:

http://www.newoodmoulding.com/Millwork.htm

if I'm going to follow the contours of the clock face I have, placing
a semicircular arch above the hood. I'm undecided about that as it
will greatly increase the complexity of the design. That said, it will
look a lot better.

Jon

Stuart Noble October 11th 09 05:26 PM

Oak mouldings
 
John Rumm wrote:
Jon Connell wrote:
On Oct 11, 12:01 am, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote:
Do you have a router?


Yes, but not a 1/2" one and a cutter large enough for this coving
would need to be 1/2" and they look quite pricey:

http://www.axminster.co.uk/product-C...tter-20981.htm


I thought you wanted a cove, not a quadrant? The above won't route a cove!

Cove bits are like:

http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.a... ile=1&jump=0


This ebay seller usually has a good collection of decent quality router
cutters that he ships from the US, alas the shop seems empty at the moment:

http://stores.shop.ebay.co.uk/Super-...__W0QQ_armrsZ1




I've seen this type of cove/scotia moulding ex 50mm softwood. Wasn't
that the size the OP was after? Too big for a router I reckon.

Jon Connell October 12th 09 06:27 AM

Oak mouldings
 
On 11 Oct, 16:29, John Rumm wrote:
I thought you wanted a cove, not a quadrant? The above won't route a cove!

Cove bits are like:

http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.a...=cove&user_sea...


Yes, my mistake.

Jon Connell October 12th 09 06:36 AM

Oak mouldings
 
On 11 Oct, 17:53, John Rumm wrote:
Stuart Noble wrote:
I've seen this type of cove/scotia moulding ex 50mm softwood. Wasn't
that the size the OP was after? Too big for a router I reckon.


50mm would feed a FO big panel raising style cutter in a table mounted
router. I think the table saw option would be preferable!


Short of sourcing one (which has proven very difficult), it does look
like the best option.

Jon


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