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I have asked this in uk.comp.misc but I have not had a reply to my
problem that is within a tight budget i.e. nothing, if I can get away
with it.

We are dumping BT and I have gone on contract with an Orange mobile
dongle at £4 98? a month. I can get on line to the internet and because
of this, I'll be able to pick up my e mails.

Is there a low cast way to download the news groups I subscribe to?

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On 15/09/09 21:08, Dave wrote:

I have asked this in uk.comp.misc but I have not had a reply to my
problem that is within a tight budget i.e. nothing, if I can get away
with it.

We are dumping BT and I have gone on contract with an Orange mobile
dongle at £4 98? a month. I can get on line to the internet and because
of this, I'll be able to pick up my e mails.

Is there a low cast way to download the news groups I subscribe to?


cheap - www.individual.net
free - www.eternal-september.org

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free


and reliable...

- www.eternal-september.org


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On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 21:58:02 +0100, Tim S wrote:

free


and reliable...

- www.eternal-september.org


I find news.individual.net reliable as well.

As for using google, well if you want to download roughly 100 times
the actual message content in web page eye candy fair enough.

And of course there is no spam filtering either, unlike
news.individual.net or, I believe, eternal-september.

I wonder how much data the OP's £4.98/month buys?

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On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 21:58:02 +0100, Tim S wrote:

free

and reliable...

- www.eternal-september.org


I find news.individual.net reliable as well.

As for using google, well if you want to download roughly 100 times
the actual message content in web page eye candy fair enough.

And of course there is no spam filtering either, unlike
news.individual.net or, I believe, eternal-september.

I wonder how much data the OP's £4.98/month buys?


One gigabyte / month. With a maximum cap of £40-00 if I go over. I can't
ever see me going over the 1 gig, I don't download very much.
Thanks to all that posted on this, I'll take a look at the posts later.

Dave


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Dave wrote:
I have asked this in uk.comp.misc but I have not had a reply to my
problem that is within a tight budget i.e. nothing, if I can get away
with it.

We are dumping BT and I have gone on contract with an Orange mobile
dongle at £4 98? a month. I can get on line to the internet and because
of this, I'll be able to pick up my e mails.

Is there a low cast way to download the news groups I subscribe to?

Dave

albasani.net
works well for me. Totally free.

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Dave wrote:
I have asked this in uk.comp.misc but I have not had a reply to my
problem that is within a tight budget i.e. nothing, if I can get away
with it.

We are dumping BT and I have gone on contract with an Orange mobile
dongle at £4 98? a month. I can get on line to the internet and
because of this, I'll be able to pick up my e mails.

Is there a low cast way to download the news groups I subscribe to?

Dave


http://groups.google.com



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Dave wrote:
I have asked this in uk.comp.misc but I have not had a reply to my
problem that is within a tight budget i.e. nothing, if I can get away
with it.

We are dumping BT and I have gone on contract with an Orange mobile
dongle at £4 98? a month. I can get on line to the internet and
because of this, I'll be able to pick up my e mails.

Is there a low cast way to download the news groups I subscribe to?

Dave


http://groups.google.com


Searching - yes, very good.

Emergency use - OK.

Regular use: please, no - spare the rest of us the related grief of poor
quoting that seems to afflict it (when used in conjunction with the devil's
underpants that is OE). Seriously - compared to a real newsreader
(especially if the OP already has an established one) web interfaces don't
do justice to either email or USENET IMO.
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Dave wrote:
I have asked this in uk.comp.misc but I have not had a reply to my
problem that is within a tight budget i.e. nothing, if I can get away
with it.

We are dumping BT and I have gone on contract with an Orange mobile
dongle at £4 98? a month. I can get on line to the internet and
because of this, I'll be able to pick up my e mails.

Is there a low cast way to download the news groups I subscribe to?

Dave

http://groups.google.com


Searching - yes, very good.


correction - used to be very good - but for usenet, currently pants.




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correction - used to be very good - but for usenet, currently pants.


Is this the case of "I know there was a thread on blah, but google can't
find it"?

I'd heard rumours, but not been doing the sort of searching that I could
catagorically say results are missing...

Seems strange - would have thought indexing and searching text only USENET
would be a piece of **** for a company that's mastered indexing the web
with all its introspections into weird formats like DOCs and PDFs, not to
mention that they never have to reindex old stuff - just whatever is coming
off the backbone of new posts (OK I accept that is still *much* data).


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On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 22:11:53 +0100, Tim S wrote:
Seems strange - would have thought indexing and searching text only USENET
would be a piece of **** for a company that's mastered indexing the web
with all its introspections into weird formats like DOCs and PDFs, not to
mention that they never have to reindex old stuff - just whatever is coming
off the backbone of new posts (OK I accept that is still *much* data).


I don't get the angle of "we're protecting peoples' right to privacy",
either. Usenet is public-domain; folk can't wave a magic wand and have
every copy a specific post vanish from existence, so I don't quite follow
why Google are so worried about what's in their archives of any particular
group.

What would be nice, I suppose, is if there were a non-profit alternative
to Google for usenet archives - one whose goal it was to preserve and
make available all the 'holes' in Google's archive.

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