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Tom August 29th 09 10:29 PM

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I had the walls in the hall taken back to bare brick, drylined and then
skimmed the other day, the result is very good but is not yet fully dry. I
have read a lot on web forums about the prep needed before painting. Some
say use a PVA mix, other unibond watered down and other people say 4 parts
water one part emulsion. I am swaying towards the watered down emulsion
method, what is the general consensus in here?

Another project i will be doing the next few weeks is tiling the kitchen and
WC floor. I bought the ceramic tiles today as there was an offer on.
In the kitchen under the existing laminate flooring there are quarry tiles
that i do not really want to rip up, they are sound and even with no
movement but what adhesive should i use to lay ceramics on top of them? In
the WC under the lino are vinyl tiles, again the floor is level and even,
what adhesive should be used for this application as lifting the tiles looks
to be a very messy job!

Thanks for any help given.

Tom



[email protected] August 29th 09 11:43 PM

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On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 22:29:31 +0100, "Tom"
wrote:

I had the walls in the hall taken back to bare brick, drylined and then
skimmed the other day, the result is very good but is not yet fully dry. I
have read a lot on web forums about the prep needed before painting. Some
say use a PVA mix, other unibond watered down and other people say 4 parts
water one part emulsion. I am swaying towards the watered down emulsion
method, what is the general consensus in here?


Get a huge roll of heavy guage lining paper from Wickes and line the
walls. Then you can do whatever you like to them.


NT[_2_] August 30th 09 12:06 AM

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On Aug 29, 10:29*pm, "Tom" wrote:
I had the walls in the hall taken back to bare brick, drylined and then
skimmed the other day, the result is very good but is not yet fully dry. *I
have read a lot on web forums about the prep needed before painting. *Some
say use a PVA mix, other unibond watered down and other people say 4 parts
water one part emulsion. *I am swaying towards the watered down emulsion
method, what is the general consensus in here?


http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?...int#Water_coat
far quicker


NT


Another project i will be doing the next few weeks is tiling the kitchen and
WC floor. I bought the ceramic tiles today as there was an offer on.
In the kitchen under the existing laminate flooring there are quarry tiles
that i do not really want to rip up, they are sound and even with no
movement but what adhesive should i use to lay ceramics on top of them? In


I'm sure regular floor tile adhesive would work fine.


the WC under the lino are vinyl tiles, again the floor is level and even,
what adhesive should be used for this application as lifting the tiles looks
to be a very messy job!

Thanks for any help given.

Tom



I was surprised to find waterproof walltile adhesive stuck well to
vinyl tiles, but I'm sure its not meant for that.


NT

Andrew Gabriel August 30th 09 08:48 AM

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In article ,
"Tom" writes:
I had the walls in the hall taken back to bare brick, drylined and then
skimmed the other day, the result is very good but is not yet fully dry. I
have read a lot on web forums about the prep needed before painting. Some
say use a PVA mix,


This probably came from a TV makeover programme.
However, it's wrong advice, and can make the walls impossible to paint,
so much so that some paint explicitly advises against it on the tin..

other unibond watered down and other people say 4 parts


Unibond is PVA.

water one part emulsion. I am swaying towards the watered down emulsion
method, what is the general consensus in here?


Watered down matt emulsion is the easiest and cheapest way
to go, even if the final paint finish is something else.
However, you are suggesting watering down way too much.
It will say on the side of the tin how much to water down,
but it's typically 10%, and you will want to increase this
if the plaster surface has been overly polished. Any more
than about 30% and the paint becomes vert messy to apply,
and you'll end up splashing it all over the place.

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Andrew Gabriel
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Tim S August 30th 09 08:57 AM

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Tom coughed up some electrons that declared:

I had the walls in the hall taken back to bare brick, drylined and then
skimmed the other day, the result is very good but is not yet fully dry.
I
have read a lot on web forums about the prep needed before painting. Some
say use a PVA mix, other unibond watered down and other people say 4 parts
water one part emulsion. I am swaying towards the watered down emulsion
method, what is the general consensus in here?


I haven't bothered with any of that and the paint I put up seems to have
stuck perfectly well.

I have however wirebrushed and SBR'd some polished new plaster in
preparation for tiling (because BAL Greenstar adhesive recommended it).

geraldthehamster August 30th 09 09:10 AM

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On Aug 30, 8:48*am, (Andrew Gabriel)
wrote:

Watered down matt emulsion is the easiest and cheapest way
to go, even if the final paint finish is something else.
However, you are suggesting watering down way too much.
It will say on the side of the tin how much to water down,
but it's typically 10%, and you will want to increase this
if the plaster surface has been overly polished. Any more
than about 30% and the paint becomes vert messy to apply,
and you'll end up splashing it all over the place.


Seconded.

Definitely don't use PVA. No need to use lining paper either - that's
for rough surfaces, not new plaster.

Don't you like quarry tiles? ;-)

Regards
Richard



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